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I just came here to read and get a feel how Purdue fans view this game. I'm really surprised at how cocky some of you Boiler fans are. Tennessee had one of the most difficult schedules in the country. The losses were to:

Bama- #1 seed in Playoff
UGA - #3 seed in Playoff
Ole Miss - Top 10 and NY6 Bowl team
Pitt - ACC champ and NY6 Bowl team
Florida - Before they imploded... at the time, they were a top 10 team coming off a 2 point loss to Bama

Tennessee coulda woulda shoulda beat Pitt and Ole Miss....we were the recipient of horrendous officiating in both of those games. We scored more points on UGA than any team except Bama. We were in a competitive game late against Bama.

All that to say, don't underestimate the Vols. It's easy to look at the defensive stats and the 7-5 record and dismiss them, but this is a darn good team that is on an upward trajectory.

I honestly don't know much about Purdue, so I'm not going to make any proclamations about them. Should be an interesting game later this month.

So, I guess the pertinent question is, but who did you beat? I mean, you can point out that most of your losses are to "good" teams, but just because you kept it close in some of your losses, doesn't mean that you didn't lose (I mean, unless you want to embrace your inner Nebraska fan, but I really really recommend you don't go down that road....). If you want to play that game, Purdue's losses were to

Notre Dame: 11-1 ranked 5th
OSU: 10-2 ranked 6th
Wisconsin: 8-4 ranked 27th-ish (ORV)
Minnesota: 8-4 ranked 29th-ish (ORV)
None of those are "bad" losses, as in, at least every single one had a winning record (yes, we're looking at you Florida....)

So let's look at the other side of the coin. Let's see who you beat:

Bowling Green: 4-8 / 2-6
Tennessee Tech: 3-8 / 1-5
Missouri: 6-6 / 3-5
South Carolina: 6-6 / 3-5
Kentucky: 9-3 / 5-3
South Alabama: 5-7 / 2-6
Vanderbilt: 2-10 / 0-8


By my count, you beat exactly ONE decent team, by three points, in a game where you were out-yarded by 150 yards. And while the Kentucky win is a decent win, as a note, Kentucky themselves only beat a single team that had a winning record (and that was Chattanooga, who was 6-5)

So only one win was against a team that had a winning record (And let's be honest here, the only reason that Missouri and South Carolina even made it to 6-6 is because they had games against teams with directions in their names, ie. Southeast Missouri State, North Texas, Eastern Illinois, East Carolina, etc.). Every one of the teams you beat, sans Kentucky, had a losing record in their conference.

Purdue has wins against:

Oregon State: 7-5 / 5-4
Connecticut: 1-11 (our one equivalent directional U cupcake that we beat 49-0)
Illinois: 5-7 / 4-5
Iowa: 10-3 / 7-2 (West Division Champs - NY6 Bowl Team)
Nebraska: 3-9 / 1-8
Michigan State: 10-2 / 7-2 (the equivalent of Pitt I would think, since they are playing them in the Peach Bowl)
Northwestern: 3-9 / 1-8
Indiana: 2-10 / 0-9

So to compare:

Iowa >= Kentucky (about a wash, maybe a slight Iowa lean because they were West champs and had 4 wins against teams with a winning record compared to Kentucky's one)
MSU > Missouri (not even arguable)
Oregon State > USC (arguable, but OSU has better wins against teams with winning records Utah, Arizona State, and Washington State compared to USC's one win over a team with a winning record, ECU)
Illinois > South Alabama (Yes, Illinois can at least beat a power 5 team, so they are better)
Bowling Green >= Nebraska (I'll give BG the slight edge here, but that's solely off of their one good win @ Minnesota)
Northwestern > Tennessee Tech
Indiana = Vanderbilt (though a game between them would be entertaining on the level of ineptitude alone)

(and we'll just throw out Connecticut all together. Hell, if Vandy can beat them, then it really isn't relevant to the conversation and Purdue had an extra win anyways).

So that's 5-1-1 in Purdue's favor.

And before you go off on the "Well, we played a tougher schedule" argument, type into Google "College Football Strength of Schedule" and look at the rankings of schedule from the first few sites. (Spoiler alert: It will not help your argument).

So yeah. None of this really means didley squat as to who is going to win. It will come down to match-ups and playmakers, but the whole point of this exercise was just to point out that your schedule is not the basis of an argument you should be crowing about.
 
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You will. I think you’ll give up more than you score though
We will see. Just from the few games I’ve watched tonight, a non mobile QB is our defenses favorite thing. Could see Byron Young eating. Your RBs are pretty bad. If David Bell decides to protect his stock and health and sit out, your entire offense is gone.
 
First off, Pitt is not a NY6 Bowl team, they are playing in the Peach Bowl on December 30th.

So, I guess the pertinent question is, but who did you beat? I mean, you can point out that most of your losses are to "good" teams, but just because you kept it close in some of your losses, doesn't mean that you didn't lose (I mean, unless you want to embrace your inner Nebraska fan, but I really really recommend you don't go down that road....). If you want to play that game, Purdue's losses were to

Notre Dame: 11-1 ranked 5th
OSU: 10-2 ranked 6th
Wisconsin: 8-4 ranked 27th-ish (ORV)
Minnesota: 8-4 ranked 29th-ish (ORV)
None of those are "bad" losses, as in, at least every single one had a winning record (yes, we're looking at you Florida....)

So let's look at the other side of the coin. Let's see who you beat:

Bowling Green: 4-8 / 2-6
Tennessee Tech: 3-8 / 1-5
Missouri: 6-6 / 3-5
South Carolina: 6-6 / 3-5
Kentucky: 9-3 / 5-3
South Alabama: 5-7 / 2-6
Vanderbilt: 2-10 / 0-8


By my count, you beat exactly ONE decent team, by three points, in a game where you were out-yarded by 150 yards. And while the Kentucky win is a decent win, as a note, Kentucky themselves only beat a single team that had a winning record (and that was Chattanooga, who was 6-5)

So only one win was against a team that had a winning record (And let's be honest here, the only reason that Missouri and South Carolina even made it to 6-6 is because they had games against teams with directions in their names, ie. Southeast Missouri State, North Texas, Eastern Illinois, East Carolina, etc.). Every one of the teams you beat, sans Kentucky, had a losing record in their conference.

Purdue has wins against:

Oregon State: 7-5 / 5-4
Connecticut: 1-11 (our one equivalent directional U cupcake that we beat 49-0)
Illinois: 5-7 / 4-5
Iowa: 10-3 / 7-2 (West Division Champs - NY6 Bowl Team)
Nebraska: 3-9 / 1-8
Michigan State: 10-2 / 7-2 (the equivalent of Pitt I would think, since they are playing them in the Peach Bowl)
Northwestern: 3-9 / 1-8
Indiana: 2-10 / 0-9

So to compare:

Iowa >= Kentucky (about a wash, maybe a slight Iowa lean because they were West champs and had 4 wins against teams with a winning record compared to Kentucky's one)
MSU > Missouri (not even arguable)
Oregon State > USC (arguable, but OSU has better wins against teams with winning records Utah, Arizona State, and Washington State compared to USC's one win over a team with a winning record, ECU)
Illinois > South Alabama (Yes, Illinois can at least beat a power 5 team, so they are better)
Bowling Green >= Nebraska (I'll give BG the slight edge here, but that's solely off of their one good win @ Minnesota)
Northwestern > Tennessee Tech
Indiana = Vanderbilt (though a game between them would be entertaining on the level of ineptitude alone)

(and we'll just throw out Connecticut all together. Hell, if Vandy can beat them, then it really isn't relevant to the conversation and Purdue had an extra win anyways).

So that's 5-1-1 in Purdue's favor.

And before you go off on the "Well, we played a tougher schedule" argument, type into Google "College Football Strength of Schedule" and look at the rankings of schedule from the first few sites. (Spoiler alert: It will not help your argument).

So yeah. None of this really means didley squat as to who is going to win. It will come down to match-ups and playmakers, but the whole point of this exercise was just to point out that your schedule is not the basis of an argument you should be crowing about.
The Peach Bowl is 100% a NY6 bowl game. 2 of the 6 go to the play off games and the other 4 are to the next 8 best teams. Been like that since 2014.

An admin is revoking all the UT fans posting privileges so I just wanted to point that out so it doesn’t appear that we are “running away” regardless of the games outcome. Civil discourse is dead now that someone can control who post and who doesn’t. Good luck to Purdue. Hope y’all enjoy Nashville.
 
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We will see. Just from the few games I’ve watched tonight, a non mobile QB is our defenses favorite thing. Could see Byron Young eating. Your RBs are pretty bad. If David Bell decides to protect his stock and health and sit out, your entire offense is gone.
A non mobile QB who gets through reads and passes like a QB from before the spread era. just make sure you come back if we win and don’t try to make it all about how it’s only because you played shitty..
 
Our offense is probably on par.
Your offense is not on par to Ohio states dude.. you run high tempo and try to use mismatches to hit chunk plays. Your receivers are nowhere near as complete of players as Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave and your back doesn’t have the talent of their back
 
If David Bell decides to protect his stock and health and sit out, your entire offense is gone.
Tennessee's passing yardage: 2946
Purdue's passing yardage WITHOUT BELL: 2800

Tennessee's pass defense ranking: 104 (and your best corner is skipping...)
Purdue's pass defense ranking: 21

I'm not worried about the offense, even if Bell doesn't play.

Now, if George K. doesn't play, I absolutely will have concerns about the defense.
 
Your offense is not on par to Ohio states dude.. you run high tempo and try to use mismatches to hit chunk plays. Your receivers are nowhere near as complete of players as Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave and your back doesn’t have the talent of their back
We’ve played far better defenses. They’re 1st in scoring offense. We’re 9th. In the entire nation. Our offense is scary efficient. Like 45 points in 13 minutes efficient
 
Tennessee's passing yardage: 2946
Purdue's passing yardage WITHOUT BELL: 2800

Tennessee's pass defense ranking: 104 (and your best corner is skipping...)
Purdue's pass defense ranking: 21

I'm not worried about the offense, even if Bell doesn't play.

Now, if George K. doesn't play, I absolutely will have concerns about the defense.
All that matters is TDs. UT has as many passing TDs in half as many attempts. Not to mention, Hooker can run all over you and that 2.9 yards per carry average will not be great against a team that held the SEC rushing leader to 2.0 ypc and 41 yards.
 
All that matters is TDs. UT has as many passing TDs in half as many attempts. Not to mention, Hooker can run all over you and that 2.9 yards per carry average will not be great against a team that held the SEC rushing leader to 2.0 ypc and 41 yards.
If your beloved Vols lose just as Peyton Mannings favored Colts lost a Super Bowl to Drew Brees Saints will you be enough of an adult to come back here and admit you were wrong?You seem like one of those loud arrogant fans who are just a little too sure of yourself and pout and whine when your team loses.
 
We’ve played far better defenses. They’re 1st in scoring offense. We’re 9th. In the entire nation. Our offense is scary efficient. Like 45 points in 13 minutes efficient
45 points in 13 minures?And you averaged 23 points in your 5 losses.
 
It is every year. I’m not guessing here. I know.
You know nothing John Snow....

Date playedBowl nameWinning teamLosing teamAttendance[21]Venue
December 30, 1968Peach BowlLSU3119 Florida State2735,545
December 30, 1969Peach Bowl19 West Virginia14South Carolina348,452
December 30, 1970Peach Bowl8 Arizona State48North Carolina2652,126
December 30, 1971Peach Bowl17 Mississippi41Georgia Tech1836,771
December 29, 1972Peach BowlNC State4918 West Virginia1352,671
December 28, 1973Peach BowlGeorgia1718 Maryland1638,107
December 28, 1974Peach BowlTexas Tech6Vanderbilt631,695
December 31, 1975Peach BowlWest Virginia13NC State1045,134
December 31, 1976Peach BowlKentucky2119 North Carolina054,132
December 31, 1977Peach BowlNC State24Iowa State1436,733
December 25, 1978Peach Bowl17 Purdue41Georgia Tech2120,277
December 31, 1979Peach Bowl19 Baylor2418 Clemson1857,371
January 2, 1981​
Peach Bowl20 Miami (Florida)20Virginia Tech1045,384
December 31, 1981Peach BowlWest Virginia26Florida637,582
December 31, 1982Peach BowlIowa28Tennessee2250,134
December 30, 1983Peach BowlFlorida State28North Carolina325,648
December 31, 1984Peach BowlVirginia27Purdue2441,107
December 31, 1985Peach BowlArmy31Illinois2929,857
December 31, 1986Peach BowlVirginia Tech2518 NC State2453,668
January 2, 1988​
Peach Bowl17 Tennessee27Indiana2258,737
December 31, 1988Peach BowlNC State28Iowa2344,635
December 30, 1989Peach BowlSyracuse19Georgia1844,991
December 29, 1990Peach BowlAuburn27Indiana2338,912
January 1, 1992​
Peach Bowl12 East Carolina3721 NC State3459,322
January 2, 1993​
Peach Bowl19 North Carolina2124 Mississippi State1769,125
December 31, 1993Peach Bowl24 Clemson14Kentucky1363,416
January 1, 1995​
Peach Bowl23 NC State2816 Mississippi State2464,902
December 30, 1995Peach Bowl18 Virginia34Georgia2770,825
December 28, 1996Peach Bowl17 LSU10Clemson763,622
January 2, 1998​
Peach Bowl13 Auburn21Clemson1771,212
December 31, 1998Peach Bowl19 Georgia3513 Virginia3372,876
December 30, 1999Peach Bowl15 Mississippi State17Clemson773,315
December 29, 2000Peach BowlLSU2815 Georgia Tech1473,614
December 31, 2001Peach BowlNorth Carolina16Auburn1071,827
December 31, 2002Peach Bowl20 Maryland30Tennessee368,330
January 2, 2004​
Peach BowlClemson276 Tennessee1475,125
December 31, 2004Peach Bowl14 Miami (Florida)2720 Florida1069,322
December 30, 2005Peach Bowl10 LSU409 Miami (Florida)365,620
December 30, 2006Chick-fil-A BowlGeorgia3114 Virginia Tech2475,406
December 31, 2007Chick-fil-A Bowl22 Auburn2315 Clemson2074,413
December 31, 2008Chick-fil-A BowlLSU3814 Georgia Tech371,423
December 31, 2009Chick-fil-A Bowl12 Virginia Tech37Tennessee1473,777
December 31, 2010Chick-fil-A Bowl23 Florida State2619 South Carolina1772,217
December 31, 2011Chick-fil-A BowlAuburn43Virginia2472,919
December 31, 2012Chick-fil-A Bowl14 Clemson259 LSU2468,027
December 31, 2013Chick-fil-A Bowl20 Texas A&M5222 Duke4867,946
December 31, 2014Peach Bowl6 TCU429 Mississippi365,706
December 31, 2015Peach Bowl14 Houston389 Florida State2471,007
December 31, 2016CFPPeach Bowl1 Alabama244 Washington775,996
January 1, 2018​
Peach Bowl10 UCF347 Auburn2771,109
December 29, 2018Peach Bowl10 Florida418 Michigan1574,006
December 28, 2019CFPPeach Bowl1 LSU634 Oklahoma2878,347
January 1, 2021​
Peach Bowl11 Georgia246 Cincinnati2115,301
Oh, and in case you needed additional convincing....

Future game dates
Season Date Day
2021 December 30, 2021 Thursday
2022dagger December 31, 2022 Saturday
2023 December 29, 2023 Friday
2024 December 28, 2024 Saturday
2025dagger December 27, 2025 Saturday

Officially, it is part of the "NY6" bowl games. BUT IT IS NOT THIS YEAR, which is my point.
 
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You know nothing John Snow....

Date playedBowl nameWinning teamLosing teamAttendance[21]Venue
December 30, 1968Peach BowlLSU3119 Florida State2735,545
December 30, 1969Peach Bowl19 West Virginia14South Carolina348,452
December 30, 1970Peach Bowl8 Arizona State48North Carolina2652,126
December 30, 1971Peach Bowl17 Mississippi41Georgia Tech1836,771
December 29, 1972Peach BowlNC State4918 West Virginia1352,671
December 28, 1973Peach BowlGeorgia1718 Maryland1638,107
December 28, 1974Peach BowlTexas Tech6Vanderbilt631,695
December 31, 1975Peach BowlWest Virginia13NC State1045,134
December 31, 1976Peach BowlKentucky2119 North Carolina054,132
December 31, 1977Peach BowlNC State24Iowa State1436,733
December 25, 1978Peach Bowl17 Purdue41Georgia Tech2120,277
December 31, 1979Peach Bowl19 Baylor2418 Clemson1857,371
January 2, 1981​
Peach Bowl20 Miami (Florida)20Virginia Tech1045,384
December 31, 1981Peach BowlWest Virginia26Florida637,582
December 31, 1982Peach BowlIowa28Tennessee2250,134
December 30, 1983Peach BowlFlorida State28North Carolina325,648
December 31, 1984Peach BowlVirginia27Purdue2441,107
December 31, 1985Peach BowlArmy31Illinois2929,857
December 31, 1986Peach BowlVirginia Tech2518 NC State2453,668
January 2, 1988​
Peach Bowl17 Tennessee27Indiana2258,737
December 31, 1988Peach BowlNC State28Iowa2344,635
December 30, 1989Peach BowlSyracuse19Georgia1844,991
December 29, 1990Peach BowlAuburn27Indiana2338,912
January 1, 1992​
Peach Bowl12 East Carolina3721 NC State3459,322
January 2, 1993​
Peach Bowl19 North Carolina2124 Mississippi State1769,125
December 31, 1993Peach Bowl24 Clemson14Kentucky1363,416
January 1, 1995​
Peach Bowl23 NC State2816 Mississippi State2464,902
December 30, 1995Peach Bowl18 Virginia34Georgia2770,825
December 28, 1996Peach Bowl17 LSU10Clemson763,622
January 2, 1998​
Peach Bowl13 Auburn21Clemson1771,212
December 31, 1998Peach Bowl19 Georgia3513 Virginia3372,876
December 30, 1999Peach Bowl15 Mississippi State17Clemson773,315
December 29, 2000Peach BowlLSU2815 Georgia Tech1473,614
December 31, 2001Peach BowlNorth Carolina16Auburn1071,827
December 31, 2002Peach Bowl20 Maryland30Tennessee368,330
January 2, 2004​
Peach BowlClemson276 Tennessee1475,125
December 31, 2004Peach Bowl14 Miami (Florida)2720 Florida1069,322
December 30, 2005Peach Bowl10 LSU409 Miami (Florida)365,620
December 30, 2006Chick-fil-A BowlGeorgia3114 Virginia Tech2475,406
December 31, 2007Chick-fil-A Bowl22 Auburn2315 Clemson2074,413
December 31, 2008Chick-fil-A BowlLSU3814 Georgia Tech371,423
December 31, 2009Chick-fil-A Bowl12 Virginia Tech37Tennessee1473,777
December 31, 2010Chick-fil-A Bowl23 Florida State2619 South Carolina1772,217
December 31, 2011Chick-fil-A BowlAuburn43Virginia2472,919
December 31, 2012Chick-fil-A Bowl14 Clemson259 LSU2468,027
December 31, 2013Chick-fil-A Bowl20 Texas A&M5222 Duke4867,946
December 31, 2014Peach Bowl6 TCU429 Mississippi365,706
December 31, 2015Peach Bowl14 Houston389 Florida State2471,007
December 31, 2016CFPPeach Bowl1 Alabama244 Washington775,996
January 1, 2018​
Peach Bowl10 UCF347 Auburn2771,109
December 29, 2018Peach Bowl10 Florida418 Michigan1574,006
December 28, 2019CFPPeach Bowl1 LSU634 Oklahoma2878,347
January 1, 2021​
Peach Bowl11 Georgia246 Cincinnati2115,301
Oh, and in case you needed additional convincing....

Future game dates
Season Date Day
2021 December 30, 2021 Thursday
2022dagger December 31, 2022 Saturday
2023 December 29, 2023 Friday
2024 December 28, 2024 Saturday
2025dagger December 27, 2025 Saturday
A NY6 bowl doesn’t have to be on NYE or NY day. You can ask Twitter or google or the other posters here. 6 bowls are considered the NY6 (hence the name). They don’t gain or loss that designation based on the year.
 
If your beloved Vols lose just as Peyton Mannings favored Colts lost a Super Bowl to Drew Brees Saints will you be enough of an adult to come back here and admit you were wrong?You seem like one of those loud arrogant fans who are just a little too sure of yourself and pout and whine when your team loses.
If my post privileges aren’t suspended, I’ll be here. Nebraska banned me when we beat them. As did UK this year. I live for the discourse. Hopefully no one’s feelings get hurt and they hit the ban hammer.
 
If my post privileges aren’t suspended, I’ll be here. Nebraska banned me when we beat them. As did UK this year. I live for the discourse. Hopefully no one’s feelings get hurt and they hit the ban hammer.
I expect you to be back here.
 
A NY6 bowl doesn’t have to be on NYE or NY day. You can ask Twitter or google or the other posters here. 6 bowls are considered the NY6 (hence the name). They don’t gain or loss that designation based on the year.
Fine. I will concede that the Peach is a NY6 bowl game. I guess I was taking more offense to the "It is every year", when it has only been that way 7 years. I will edit the original post.

Even still, his argument was that Tennessee was a good team because all of their losses were to such high quality teams, including Pitt, a NY6 bowl team, but yet ignoring the fact that Purdue beat the other team going to that bowl.
 
We will see. Just from the few games I’ve watched tonight, a non mobile QB is our defenses favorite thing. Could see Byron Young eating. Your RBs are pretty bad. If David Bell decides to protect his stock and health and sit out, your entire offense is gone.
This is not at all true. Our entire offense is not all gone if David Bell sits out. It doesn’t help, but it doesn’t mean this offense turns into a pumpkin without him either.
 
We’ve played far better defenses. They’re 1st in scoring offense. We’re 9th. In the entire nation. Our offense is scary efficient. Like 45 points in 13 minutes efficient
And you’re up against the 32nd ranked total defense .. again never said you guys weren’t really good and wouldn’t score. You’re just not Ohio state in terms of what their QB and receivers could do in terms of the quick hitting short passes in rhythm where the ball got out quick enough to negate any pass rush … and you guys aren’t scoring 59
 
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This is not at all true. Our entire offense is not all gone if David Bell sits out. It doesn’t help, but it doesn’t mean this offense turns into a pumpkin without him either.
No joke. That comment he made essentially proves he knows nothing about us.
 
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I just came here to read and get a feel how Purdue fans view this game. I'm really surprised at how cocky some of you Boiler fans are. Tennessee had one of the most difficult schedules in the country. The losses were to:

Bama- #1 seed in Playoff
UGA - #3 seed in Playoff
Ole Miss - Top 10 and NY6 Bowl team
Pitt - ACC champ and NY6 Bowl team
Florida - Before they imploded... at the time, they were a top 10 team coming off a 2 point loss to Bama

Tennessee coulda woulda shoulda beat Pitt and Ole Miss....we were the recipient of horrendous officiating in both of those games. We scored more points on UGA than any team except Bama. We were in a competitive game late against Bama.

All that to say, don't underestimate the Vols. It's easy to look at the defensive stats and the 7-5 record and dismiss them, but this is a darn good team that is on an upward trajectory.

I honestly don't know much about Purdue, so I'm not going to make any proclamations about them. Should be an interesting game later this month.
Gee, you come here and tell us how great you and the SEC are and you expect us to just lay down and pay homage? LMFAO. Have you even looked at our strength of schedule?

 
Jesus i stop by to see what bowl we are in and theres already 6 pages of douchebaggery. Welcome to the board vol fans now GFY. Kthxbai.
 
Fine. I will concede that the Peach is a NY6 bowl game. I guess I was taking more offense to the "It is every year", when it has only been that way 7 years. I will edit the original post.

Even still, his argument was that Tennessee was a good team because all of their losses were to such high quality teams, including Pitt, a NY6 bowl team, but yet ignoring the fact that Purdue beat the other team going to that bowl.
The argument wasn't about Purdue, so your point about "ignoring" Purdue's win is invalid. The post was simply to say, don't dismiss Tennessee because of the record and defensive stats. The fact is, even with Tennessee being down as a program, in our last 4 bowl games against Big 10 opponents, we are 4-0, outscoring the opposition 151-80. I'm not saying those results have any impact on this game, but all schedules are not created equal and your constant attempt to compare our schedule to yours is an apples and oranges comparison. I'm not an SEC supremacist, but I think most objective college football fans would tell you, top to bottom, the competition in the SEC is much tougher than any other conference. If you reject that premise, then so be it. We'll see how this game plays out.
 
The argument wasn't about Purdue, so your point about "ignoring" Purdue's win is invalid. The post was simply to say, don't dismiss Tennessee because of the record and defensive stats. The fact is, even with Tennessee being down as a program, in our last 4 bowl games against Big 10 opponents, we are 4-0, outscoring the opposition 151-80. I'm not saying those results have any impact on this game, but all schedules are not created equal and your constant attempt to compare our schedule to yours is an apples and oranges comparison. I'm not an SEC supremacist, but I think most objective college football fans would tell you, top to bottom, the competition in the SEC is much tougher than any other conference. If you reject that premise, then so be it. We'll see how this game plays out.

I know I'm probably going to regret this, but can you truly point to someone, anyone, "dismiss(ing) Tennessee"?

Are people questioning the level of talent? how well we match up? Whether or not your schedule or results are truly superior? All that, no doubt. Absolutely.

Your prior bowl record vs the B1G couldn't be more irrelevant, and it's somewhat surprising to see that introduced as evidence of how great UT is. It's as irrelevant as the UT/Purdue head-to-head (Purdue leads, 1-0).
 
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All kidding aside, I don’t care how we’re perceived because we know how good we can be as does Michigan State, Iowa, and even Ohio State. I’m just glad to get another crack at a SEC team with some tradition and a huge fan base. I like this better than playing some lower tier PAC 12, ACC, Big 12 or non power 5 team. I think long gone are the days where we had to beat IU to get to 6-6 and play a MAC team in the Little Caesars pizza bowl in Detroit.
 
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So, I guess the pertinent question is, but who did you beat? I mean, you can point out that most of your losses are to "good" teams, but just because you kept it close in some of your losses, doesn't mean that you didn't lose (I mean, unless you want to embrace your inner Nebraska fan, but I really really recommend you don't go down that road....). If you want to play that game, Purdue's losses were to

Notre Dame: 11-1 ranked 5th
OSU: 10-2 ranked 6th
Wisconsin: 8-4 ranked 27th-ish (ORV)
Minnesota: 8-4 ranked 29th-ish (ORV)
None of those are "bad" losses, as in, at least every single one had a winning record (yes, we're looking at you Florida....)

So let's look at the other side of the coin. Let's see who you beat:

Bowling Green: 4-8 / 2-6
Tennessee Tech: 3-8 / 1-5
Missouri: 6-6 / 3-5
South Carolina: 6-6 / 3-5
Kentucky: 9-3 / 5-3
South Alabama: 5-7 / 2-6
Vanderbilt: 2-10 / 0-8


By my count, you beat exactly ONE decent team, by three points, in a game where you were out-yarded by 150 yards. And while the Kentucky win is a decent win, as a note, Kentucky themselves only beat a single team that had a winning record (and that was Chattanooga, who was 6-5)

So only one win was against a team that had a winning record (And let's be honest here, the only reason that Missouri and South Carolina even made it to 6-6 is because they had games against teams with directions in their names, ie. Southeast Missouri State, North Texas, Eastern Illinois, East Carolina, etc.). Every one of the teams you beat, sans Kentucky, had a losing record in their conference.

Purdue has wins against:

Oregon State: 7-5 / 5-4
Connecticut: 1-11 (our one equivalent directional U cupcake that we beat 49-0)
Illinois: 5-7 / 4-5
Iowa: 10-3 / 7-2 (West Division Champs - NY6 Bowl Team)
Nebraska: 3-9 / 1-8
Michigan State: 10-2 / 7-2 (the equivalent of Pitt I would think, since they are playing them in the Peach Bowl)
Northwestern: 3-9 / 1-8
Indiana: 2-10 / 0-9

So to compare:

Iowa >= Kentucky (about a wash, maybe a slight Iowa lean because they were West champs and had 4 wins against teams with a winning record compared to Kentucky's one)
MSU > Missouri (not even arguable)
Oregon State > USC (arguable, but OSU has better wins against teams with winning records Utah, Arizona State, and Washington State compared to USC's one win over a team with a winning record, ECU)
Illinois > South Alabama (Yes, Illinois can at least beat a power 5 team, so they are better)
Bowling Green >= Nebraska (I'll give BG the slight edge here, but that's solely off of their one good win @ Minnesota)
Northwestern > Tennessee Tech
Indiana = Vanderbilt (though a game between them would be entertaining on the level of ineptitude alone)

(and we'll just throw out Connecticut all together. Hell, if Vandy can beat them, then it really isn't relevant to the conversation and Purdue had an extra win anyways).

So that's 5-1-1 in Purdue's favor.

And before you go off on the "Well, we played a tougher schedule" argument, type into Google "College Football Strength of Schedule" and look at the rankings of schedule from the first few sites. (Spoiler alert: It will not help your argument).

So yeah. None of this really means didley squat as to who is going to win. It will come down to match-ups and playmakers, but the whole point of this exercise was just to point out that your schedule is not the basis of an argument you should be crowing about.
Damn.......Mic Drop!
 
I know I'm probably going to regret this, but can you truly point to someone, anyone, "dismiss(ing) Tennessee"?

Are people questioning the level of talent? how well we match up? Whether or not your schedule or results are truly superior? All that, no doubt. Absolutely.

Your prior bowl record vs the B1G couldn't be more irrelevant, and it's somewhat surprising to see that introduced as evidence of how great UT is. It's as irrelevant as the UT/Purdue head-to-head (Purdue leads, 1-0).
Actually there are several posts here implying Purdue is superior to Tennessee. And in terms of other bowl games being irrelevant....on the surface, that may be true. However, I believe past Big 10 vs SEC games can absolutely be relevant. All those previous 4 games that TN won against Big 10 opponents, the Big 10 team had a better record. And believe it or not, their fan bases sounded eerily similar to how you guys sound in this thread. Again, I'm not bashing Purdue. You guys gave had a great season.
 
As a fan, I wouldn’t want a first round projected kid playing in a meaningless bowl game. They’ve done enough and the difference between 7 and 8 wins is meaningless.
If he decides not to so be it. I’m not gonna begrudge him. But he’s only projected as the 7th receiver by kiper. Probably second round at this point. Now I know the combine affects that the most. However, bell isn’t going to do great at the combine. He’s more similar to rice. 4.5 guy whose strength is being able to manipulate defenders with precise route running and catching everything.. then he’s a great yac guy. Like rice, you’ll marvel at how he’s able to make more athletic defenders look like bad defenders.

so in this unique case, I think going out there against a SEC team and wrecking shop could push him into the first round. It only takes one team to see that and have considerably heightened interest.

karlaftis is more the type of guy you speak of.. and I think he’ll play because he’s kind of a weird dude in a great way. My read on him is that he just loves the battle.. kind of a rocky balboa type of guy.

so long as bell plays you have problems. It takes an entire team to corral him.. that team must have outstanding athletes AND play very smart a la Notre dame and Wisconsin. If you lack either, I.e. 103rd in the nation in pass yards allowed, you have problems … and honestly with the way you all have come here, I think the reaction is going to be the most fun all year.
 
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