He's gone 100% and everyone knows it. This is the Sharon Versyp situation all over again. Except you're the loser this time. Hopefully you'll get someone good.
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You realize every IU fan is hoping/praying that happens right? And for good reason. But 100%? Lol.
Nothing is 100%, but he'll weigh the opportunity very closely, and it won't be a money issue if he stays or goes.
It’s just funny hearing all the IU fans chiming in. They know he’ll be a problem at Purdue if he stays and they’re hoping like heck he leaves.
Not really. No one at IU cares about football so it doesn't matter to us if he stays or not.
"...His recruits have constantly questioned him about his position at Purdue and he has told them repeatedly he isn’t going anywhere...."
All coaches tell recruits they plan on staying at their school.....until they get another offer and leave.
This is absolutely true. Coaches are coaching for the future right up until the moment they get a new job. What he says to recruits and others around Purdue about staying long term is essentially useless until he actually declines an offer from a different school. It all comes back to whether he wants to start rebuilding another program from scratch by taking the Louisville program or start to really reap the benefits at Purdue over the next 2-3 years. And of course whoever is going to pay him more is a a big factor but I think Purdue and UL are pretty even in that regard.
I've lived in Louisville my whole life. I remember watching Brohm playing QB at Trinity High School then he and his brother at UofL. They could change the name of Cardinal Stadium to Brohm Stadium and the whole city would support it. Louisville and his family want Jeff home he would be the king of the city. I've been keeping up with Purdue football because he is your coach. I wish you all luck and I promise you money is not a issue for Louisville. JMHO Brohm will be the next coach at UofL. Oh yeah I am a KY fan so makes no difference to me. Good luck no matter what happens.
The school doesn’t ... this is being done by the local business/alum.... if you aren’t familiar with Louisville Athletics... well.... nothing is too expensive. Major corporate support in the city for football and basketball.... I hope you can keep him. His family is sports royalty in Louisville
I'm just curious but what makes Louisville a better position? Are they that much better historically? The thing that he has to understand and I'm sure he does. He has a chance to win the West pretty much every year. That in a nut shell should keep him around. To be able to play for a potential B1G championship every year is legacy!
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Then why are you here....on a Purdue board...discussing football?
As a high school player Brohm turned down Notre Dame to play at home for Louisville. As a assistant coach he turned down Alabama to coach at Louisville. That's just who he is. I'm not saying he is leaving. Purdue is a great job. But he loves Louisville.
1: Purdue has arguably the best performance center in the conference...easily top 3.
2: Fiancial backing from Univ President, BOT, and AD. Purdue’s coffers are much deeper than UL’s.
3: Proven fan support to Brohm via two sellouts and potential for third this coming weekend.
4: B1G > ACC and don’t even attempt to to argue that point. Purdue will receive over $55 million from the B1G network this season and that money will only continue to be used to enhance the football program.
5: Brohm was SOLD on Purdue by Bobinski. His initial reaction was no and those closest to him said no when Purdue first contacted him. It is common knowledge that Bobinski and Brohm have a very close relationship.
6: Easier path to conference championships at Purdue than UL who has to go through Clemson.
7: stadium renovations coming to South endzone that Brohm will have major decisions in moving forward.
8: the UL job, right now, is a step down from where Purdue is right now.
9: Purdue has an AD that isn’t embroiled in controversy as UL has been for the better part of 2 years or more.
If I have learned nothing else during my time advising private equity clients, as a rule, buyers with suspect finances rarely win a competitive bidding process and in the rare instance when they do win they rarely succeed over the long term as they have to cut too many corners to overcome the initial issues with financing.
Regardless of the UL fans on this board and elsewhere assuring themselves UL has the cash to do this deal, UL's board's statements, its AD's statements, its fillings with the State of Kentucky and numerous reports by the news media in Louisville beg to differ. Its finances at the university level and its athletic department's finances were not on solid ground before it lost the pizza man's money and are worse now. Very hard to see where the money necessary to get this deal done comes from in the short term. I have worked on more deals than I can count where a buyer has the cash until it is time to put up or shut up.
However, loyalty is a strange thing so I won't say it will never happen, but I think Brohm has shown a sufficient business savvy that he knows that a move to UL is not only a step back financially but also as a brand. My sense is he wants to be a legacy brand nationally not just a regional brand, which is all he is going to be at UL. The media coverage, the money, etc. are not in the same league as what he has at Purdue and in the B1G.
Regardless of the UL fans on this board and elsewhere assuring themselves UL has the cash to do this deal, UL's board's statements, its AD's statements, its fillings with the State of Kentucky and numerous reports by the news media in Louisville beg to differ. Its finances at the university level and its athletic department's finances were not on solid ground before it lost the pizza man's money and are worse now. Very hard to see where the money necessary to get this deal done comes from in the short term. I have worked on more deals than I can count where a buyer has the cash until it is time to put up or shut up.
However, loyalty is a strange thing so I won't say it will never happen, but I think Brohm has shown a sufficient business savvy that he knows that a move to UL is not only a step back financially but also as a brand. My sense is he wants to be a legacy brand nationally not just a regional brand, which is all he is going to be at UL. The media coverage, the money, etc. are not in the same league as what he has at Purdue and in the B1G.
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Drops after Dec.20 if Im not mistaken. Not that it matters and don't ask me why I know that.
Once in a lifetime? That job will always be available. They just fired their most successful coach in school history for one bad year.
Even if he leaves, we’ll STILL have an AD better than Glass, and he’ll pick a coach better than Tommy High School. And UL will pay for $4 million of that new coach’s contract.
You obviously have not seen the facilities now in place at Louisville with a new 60 Million End zone expansion which is "sick" as well as a Training facility that rivals your new one. As many have already said, the Brohm Family is Royalty in Louisville. Jeff's father Oscar, his brothers Greg and Brian all played for Louisville and helped to build the reputation of the Modern day Louisville Football brand. The AD Vince Tyra, has a strong relationship with the family dating back to High School. Louisville has always been the place Jeff wanted to come back to, he just didn't think it would be so soon. Be thankful that he has brought Purdue back into the conversation. He will do the same thing at Louisville and it won't take that much time.
How strange that only ones screaming “Brohm to Louisville done deal” here are IU fans and Louisville people. IU fans I get; their delusions have been well-documented in this board over the years. Does Louisville really think they are such a big shot? As a Purdue guy, I won’t deny that Brohm to Louisville is possible. But Louisville is NOT a prestigious job in football. Your department is under investigation and in a financial rut. You just fired your winningest coach in your history who was also Brohm’s mentor. Brohm is a loyal guy, which is why we are worried, but your case isn’t as great as you think.
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For FY16-17, Purdue athletics dept revenue was $85 million vs Louisville $120 million. Regardless of trajectory of those figures, that is a huge difference.
In any case, Brohm’s decision isn’t going to come down to $ because this isn’t going to turn into a bidding war where the school that pays him Saban money gets him. He will make around $5 million next year whether he comes to Louisville or gets a boost at Purdue. It all depends on what he wants to do. Either school can afford to pay that amount.
For FY16-17, Purdue athletics dept revenue was $85 million vs Louisville $120 million. Regardless of trajectory of those figures, that is a huge difference.
In any case, Brohm’s decision isn’t going to come down to $ because this isn’t going to turn into a bidding war where the school that pays him Saban money gets him. He will make around $5 million next year whether he comes to Louisville or gets a boost at Purdue. It all depends on what he wants to do. Either school can afford to pay that amount.
Yeah and Johnny Wooden came back to Purdue and Bobby Knight to OSU. I am not worried.
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You mean the one with the one of the worst year in Purdue history in attendance and ticket sales BEFORE Brohm got hired? It’s also before this year when the Big Ten revenue distribution increased to 51 million. We are also one of the few schools who fully operates without help from the school. We are fine.
Not saying he's gone (I hope he stays), but UL can compete on facilities and money, and prestige means little when it's your alma mater and home. His true mentor still lives there (his dad, Oscar), as does much of his extended family. If UL was just another monied school, this wouldn't mean a thing, but the intangibles are unique to Louisville, which is why this is a legitimate option for JB.
And that is the only thing UL has over Purdue. If this was Lane Kiffin who is subject to emotional jumps, then I’d say it’s a done deal he is gone. Brohm has never made an emotional and brash decision in his life it appears. The longer he is allowed to sit on this, the less emotion plays a factor.
IMHO, it would have better served UL to fire Petrino the day after their final game and pushed hard at a brohm then.
Being his alma mater, to whom he has great loyalty, is a tremendous factor. It's not that he's unhappy at Purdue, but UL is a special and unique place for him, and he'll carefully consider it. Believing that Purdue has a bunch of no-brainier advantages here is both wishful and naive.
Like I said, it can’t be denied that UL is a legitimate choice, but it’s not an obvious choice. Purdue, even at its worst athletic years, never had to get helped by the university to operate its athletics program. While UL has one of the higher athletics revenue in the country, it’s no secret it cannot stay out of red without the university’s help. Your so-called intangibles isn’t so unique; every school has had their legends and legacies but not all of them end up being the school’s saviour. It’s up to you to hope that; thinking it is inevitable is just arrogant.
I take it you have never read a financial statement. Revenue is not relevant. P&L is the relevant metric. By UL's own accounting it's athletic department had a $7mm loss last year (https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...ins-costs-coach-salaries-subsidies/727139001/) (i.e. UL spent $7mm more than it had in revenue) while Purdue had an almost $2mm profit just on football (https://www.jconline.com/story/spor...-big-ten-football-revenue-expenses/100172108/). Ergo, my point still stands. UL's athletic program is loosing money, its biggest donor is now its biggest former donor, etc. Throw in the various buyouts it has to pay, absent a huge influx of cash it does not have the money to be competitive with a B1G school if it comes down to money. It simply does not. If Brohm wants to go home, it will be irrelevant, but all the UL fans spouting off about UL having the money to outbid Purdue are delusional.
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Did you read the whole article? Only 22 Universities across the country have programs that are fully self-supporting. Florida State is the only University in the ACC self-supporting. Louisville had the 9th highest payroll for their coaches in the Country. They did not benefit from money from the Big TEN or SEC Network either. They had one of the highest payrolls that year because they had Pitino, Tom Jurich (former AD), and Dan McDonnell (Head Baseball Coach)...some of the highest paid in the country. They PAY for the right coaches. They also compete at a high level in several sports. The truth is..both Purdue and Louisville fans probably have a higher opinion of themselves that does not reflect what the national perception is of each program. But poking at Louisville about finances, who have built a new facility for every sport except football (though two additions and renovations) in the last 20 years, is short-sighted. ACC Network money starts kicking in 2019. They made Charlie Strong a Top 5 paid Coach in NCAA Football, they can make it happen again if they needed to.
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