Perspective on Recruiting Stars *****

[BarringtonBoiler]

Yesterday was listening to Mad Dog Sports Radio and a caller presented some interesting information concerning the topic of recruiting stars. In the Super Bowl he indicated that research was done on the starting units for the Patriots and Seahawks. I don't recall that actual numbers in detail, but he basically said that both starting units had no player who had four or five stars as a high school senior and the average was somewhere around 2.7 and 2.8 for both starting units. I do not recall which was which, but it was interesting to say the least.

I guess you can say that while recruiting stars do not mean too much at the pro level, they seem to matter at least at the college level in that those players ranked far higher in terms of stars can contribute faster and make a larger impact, but then at next level this does not seem to matter much.

Oh well, just thought it was interesting ...

 

[nat100]

Originally posted by BarringtonBoiler:
Yesterday was listening to Mad Dog Sports Radio and a caller presented some interesting information concerning the topic of recruiting stars. In the Super Bowl he indicated that research was done on the starting units for the Patriots and Seahawks. I don't recall that actual numbers in detail, but he basically said that both starting units had no player who had four or five stars as a high school senior and the average was somewhere around 2.7 and 2.8 for both starting units. I do not recall which was which, but it was interesting to say the least.

I guess you can say that while recruiting stars do not mean too much at the pro level, they seem to matter at least at the college level in that those players ranked far higher in terms of stars can contribute faster and make a larger impact, but then at next level this does not seem to matter much.

Oh well, just thought it was interesting ...

Off the top of my head Lynch was a 4 star. Gronkowski was a 4 star. Blunt was a 4 star.

Wilfork, Brady were pre star ranking.

There is a reason the teams at the top of the recruiting rankings are competing for national championships.

 

[OhioBoiler3]

The study said that there were no 5* players as a starter in super bowl. and the average was between 2.5 and 3.0.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I posted this the other day on this board and it also mentioned there was only 1 first round pick (Solder from Colo.). The report also pointed out that all the Seahawk receivers were free agents.

 

[nat100]

Originally posted by PaBoiler78:
I posted this the other day on this board and it also mentioned there was only 1 first round pick (Solder from Colo.). The report also pointed out that all the Seahawk receivers were free agents.

1 first round pick on offense. Both defenses were littered with 1st rounders.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I personally only think you should worry about the stars of QB, WR, TE, and RB. They can make a high school team. stellar lineman and many defensive players can fall through the cracks easily.

 

[Yougotme]

The feel good attempt of trying to justify that a class of 2 and 3 star players is interesting - we can all play that game. The fact of the matter is that the more 4 and 5 star athletes you have, the better your chance of making the CFB playoffs. How many 4 and 5 star recruits on the starting units for the four teams that made the CFB playoffs this year? That seems more relevant. Purdue isn't eligible to play in a Super Bowl.

 

[jberry5]

What I heard was of the 48 starters (offense, defense, punter, kicker) there were:

0 - 5-stars.......0%
8 - 4-stars.......17%
9 - 3-stars.......19%
31 - 2 or less-stars.....64%

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I don't think these are CFB playoff players but they can give us some bowl teams.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Originally posted by BoilerFan#35:
I personally only think you should worry about the stars of QB, WR, TE, and RB. They can make a high school team. stellar lineman and many defensive players can fall through the cracks easily.

I think this is a great point. And it also highlights the fact that most of our recent NFL players were not in those positional categories.
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[BoilerBulldog]

Originally posted by Yougotme:
The feel good attempt of trying to justify that a class of 2 and 3 star players is interesting - we can all play that game. The fact of the matter is that the more 4 and 5 star athletes you have, the better your chance of making the CFB playoffs. How many 4 and 5 star recruits on the starting units for the four teams that made the CFB playoffs this year? That seems more relevant. Purdue isn't eligible to play in a Super Bowl.

At this point we have an equal chance of making the playoffs as we do the Super Bowl. I hope your satisfaction as a Purdue hinges on making the playoff. At this point I'm just hoping to be respectable again. And I feel like this class at least addresses some needs and adds depth. I think our team is better today than yesterday.
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[OhioBoiler3]

We've always gotten 2 and 3 start recruits with a few and far between 4 star.

 

[lbodel]

You can dissect this stuff for days.

However, it's pretty simple. In the NFL, you're talking about 50 individuals on a team basically. Out of 1,000s of college football players that finish every year. They are literally cherry picking to the extreme. One of the players was from West Alabama? I had never even heard of that team, didn't know it existed. But you only needed 1 player from 1 team from 1 year to get that 1 guy.

It reminds me of Bernard Pollard at Purdue. He was a good player, earned many accolades in college, etc. But guess what, our defense was literally garbage, including the secondary. So it's great we had 1 player that NFL teams wanted - but developing 1 guy to be an NFL player isn't the goal for college programs because that doesn't equal success

Purdue's problem is quite simple - it's depth. Of course there are 2 star players that go on to be good. But it's essentially a game of chance. Chances are a 5 star player will go on to do better than 4 star player. Does every single one? No, but the odds are on that side. Same thing with a 4 star vs. 3 star. And the same with a 3 star vs. 2 star.

So do we have some 2 stars that go on to be good players? Sure! But is it enough of them to have a good TEAM? No, we haven't had depth. We can field an ok starting 11 in a unit - but you don't just play 11 guys. Football is as much to do with depth as any sport out there. And that we don't have.



This post was edited on 2/5 12:08 PM by lbodel