Sounds like maybe the team lacks mental toughness?
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We’re discussing the MD game. Obviously you need to watch it first, to avoid looking like an idiot.
Blaming the officials for a 14 point loss is what's idiotic.
I’m not blaming the officials for the loss. Just saying they were awful and we should have been up 15+ at the half.
IZZO was the one that made that a priority after the game. It's two fold-no D fouls neutralize Zach and keep Purdue out of bonus in how they have played. Less FTs and less Zach dominance. Purdue is built around Zach, not Zach built around the 3 ball. Teams have tried everything to neutralize Zach to no avail until the refs started not calling the fouls.
..and yet Purdue won many games earlier in the season with godawful 3 pt shooting, and they would have won against Northwestern handily even with that awful 3 pt shooting if things were called anywhere close to fair, and as they'd been all season.
Purdue didn't lose the game due to poor 3 balls. Not shooting well certainly didn't help Purdue's cause. Purdue is built around Zach and Zach was neutralized by quick, physical play that affected the scoring of zach, the lack of FT shooting opportunities and the rebounding advantage being no more.
He is the hub that all spokes are connected and whenthe hub is missing, those spokes no longer turn...
Remember when Loyer was being compared to Hummel as a 3 point shooter? Loyer is now at 33% from three, Hummel was 44% his freshman year, Etwaun shot 43%. Loyer has to come around for Purdue to win against better teams which they are seeing now and in the tourney.
You can always tell who watches the games and who doesn’t…
The league, the refs, everyone hates Purdue,. Come on. It gets real old real quick.
Some facts Purdue has made 116 more free throws than their opponents have attempted. Edey has 45 Fouls in 26 games. Purdue has made 36 more free throws in B1G play than their opponents have attempted. No Purdue player averages more than 2 fouls per game. Purdue has been called for the 12th least amount of fouls in the NCAA. Purdue has been called for the second least amount of fouls in B1G play while their opponents have been called for the most.
Some facts Purdue has made 116 more free throws than their opponents have attempted. Edey has 45 Fouls in 26 games. Purdue has made 36 more free throws in B1G play than their opponents have attempted. No Purdue player averages more than 2 fouls per game. Purdue has been called for the 12th least amount of fouls in the NCAA. Purdue has been called for the second least amount of fouls in B1G play while their opponents have been called for the most.
Yeah, and those facts are what makes the last two games so puzzling, where things have been polar opposite to that...
I watch. What's your point? You can't have your "shooting Guard" Shoot 38% from the field and 33% from 3. The dude has shot 20.7% from 3 over the last 9 games and made more than 1 once and by the way Purdue has lost three of the last 4 games but yeah if you watched the game he does all the little things....
Sorry but Loyer doesn't do the little things. not great on defense, not a great assist guy and he doesn't rebound. So what is GMan544 missing?
If Loyer continues shooting 20.7% from 3, we can't pair him with Morton in the back court. It won't win us a National Championship.
That being said, I think he'll get better but if he doesn't its a real problem.
You're so tilted you don't even understand why this proves our point about NW and MD.
But again, if part of your offensive strategy is relying on the officials, then that's a poor offensively strategy. If the officials call the game differently than you were hoping for, then you're in trouble. Maybe that's what we're seeing.
I’ll copy and paste what I said in another post:
When you’re getting mauled and thereby taken out of your normal offense, you end up taking a lot of late, bad, long distance shots. That’s how you shoot 15% from three.
This isn’t that difficult to understand, unless you’re being purposely obtuse.
Do you think Purdue has won any games this year where the opponents fans could claim that were it not for the officials calling it Purdue's way, they would have won?
So we should assume the officials are going to not enforce the rules of basketball?
I'd love to go back over the last 3 losses and see how many 'late, bad, long' shots were taken. I'm sure there's a few, but not enough to cost 3 games. More like, the players are in a collective shooting funk and can't hit good, open looks, which they've had plenty of.
No. But you also can't assume the officials are going to call 100% of the fouls, or even 60%.
It's like holding on the offensive line: you can call holding on about any play.
Again, relying on the officiating as part of your offensive strategy is a bad strategy.
I watch, it was a bloodbath. But I was looking forward the last two games are done. Loyers shooting percentage for the season is 33% from three. According to New Pal Boiler 20.7% over the last 9. These numbers aren't for the last two abusive games. He has to shoot better for them to win anything significant or someone else, Gillis etc. to fill the void. If the league has determined Edey can be hacked, someone else has to hit an outside shot.
I don't mind the tech. I just feel it should have come from CMP early to show the refs i'm not f'n around and you better call this game correctly. That would be my only complaint about CMP, sometimes you just have to fight for those guys and show that emotion. Most players feed off of that stuff.
This is where the lack of a true dribble drive or create your own shot player would help this team. I personally thought it was going to be Brandon, but his shooting isn't as good as Loyer or isn't as efficient. What's that say for a 4 yr junior.
Most posters here would get kicked out of their local Y. "Foul" "foul" "that's a foul" "foul".
What percentage of fouls on our best player should we expect the officials to call?
Didn’t say they cost us the game. When your best player is mauled, and a lesser player ends up shooting as a result, that by definition is a lower quality shot.
Especially when that lesser player is then grabbed as he tries to dribble around the close out.
But you didn’t watch the game, so you have no idea what I’m talking about…
I think refs in general call more fouls on drives where the offensive player obviously beats his man and is bumped or hacked. They let a lot more go inside, because you have big bodies in a small space. That's not to say Edey should not get more calls when he is hacked or bumped many times each possession, but I believe there is an inside versus outside bias.
I've noticed this a lot lately. It seems the other players are even not allowed to dribble over the half-court line. They always pass it back to Braden once the initial press is cleared. It even resulted in a stupid Morton turnover and an easy basket as the game was getting out of hand. It's something I don't understand.
Having a non shooter at the 3 isn’t helping our 2 get open.
I wonder if there are any other teams in the country with the same problem, or just Purdue?
Fouling/playing extremely physically negates better teams advantage. Maryland has good athletic players but they are not the team purdue is
My personal experience between city league and pick up is that in pickup players keep it honest because they know the other side will do the same as a reference. With pretend refs...sides will violate the rules until it is called and those games would typically get more physical since it depended on the ref with... no issue if not called...where not calling it in pickup there would be a penalty in teh next possession and such. Always, played D calls the foul and that is just the way things worked. Perhaps it is different today?
I agree, would be nice to have a 6'7 or 6'8 slasher who can drive or stop and shoot mid range. Too many stand around players and if they get a look sometimes too slow to get it up before the D collapses on them
You can only plan on the refs doing their job. That said, the whole season has seen inside play more physical than perimeter play due to the refs not doing their job. It has been worse lately. We also know that traveling (spin) is not called because...not that it isn't in the rules, but due to conforming how the players play today and so yes, it appears the refs are directing one style of play since making all teams play the same style was not fully accomplished by the clock reduction.
Overall if they allowed teh bigs to be just as physical away from the low post, you would see much fewer 5s ball screening for the 1 or 2 since that is a perfect time to trap the ball...if allowed to be physical. The offense already brought two defenders to the ball and that is essentially why "ball screens" we not nearly as effective years ago.
Give me refs that don't enforce the shot clock and they will help Purdue as another way that not following the rules helps a team. Finally, yes if the refs are not going to call the fouls on low post play...Purdue has shown that at least on visitor courts they will not be as effective.
I had to look up Lalique. Thanks, learned something new today.
