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OT: Paris

Right. I'm following that situation more than the game.

Stunned and saddened.
 
Just terrible what a group of maniac people will do to innocent people
Over 140 Dead - 1 gunman still on the run
 
Was just there 2 weeks ago from October 27-31st . Got attempted pick pocketed outside of Gare du Nord and thought that was a rough one...

#prayforparis
 
I met up with my parents there for a few days after Oktoberfest in Munich, passing through some of those same androssiments, it's truly shocking.
 
mfj said:
Sorry Des is right. The West is making it easy for this stuff to happen.
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Gun laws aren't made for incidents like this. And people who can be snide so soon after an event are either heartless or out of touch with reality.

Edit: I'm not discussing guns further in this thread. Derailing this thread with garbage is inappropriate and shows aa serious lack of tact.
 
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beardownboiler said:
Gun laws aren't made for incidents like this. And people who can be snide so soon after an event are either heartless or out of touch with reality.

Edit: I'm not discussing guns further in this thread. Derailing this thread with garbage is inappropriate and shows aa serious lack of tact.
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I'll slightly disagree with Des. In these cases, it's more the open borders and the "no go zones" than the gun laws. All these policies are made by the same people.
 
beardownboiler said:
Gun laws aren't made for incidents like this. And people who can be snide so soon after an event are either heartless or out of touch with reality.

Edit: I'm not discussing guns further in this thread. Derailing this thread with garbage is inappropriate and shows aa serious lack of tact.
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Gun laws aren't made for anything.
 
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mfj said:
I'll slightly disagree with Des. In these cases, it's more the open borders and the "no go zones" than the gun laws. All these policies are made by the same people.
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No it's about people with nothing to lose. If you have something, anything, that can give you hope, you don't do shit like this, killing other humans and suicide are not what people with hope for the future do.
 
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I think everyone should be grateful (as much as a person can be in this situation) that the bombings at the stadium weren't very effective. This could have been much worse.
 
ramos1969 said:
Actually it is pertinent. This is a situation that guns in the hands of the victims may have saved lives. Such a tragic event.
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Sane, non-felons can easily get a gun. Many can carry it. It's the cr
kescwi said:
No it's about people with nothing to lose. If you have something, anything, that can give you hope, you don't do shit like this, killing other humans and suicide are not what people with hope for the future do.
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Unless they are crazy or just evil!
 
beardownboiler said:
Oh shut up! This isn't the time to get into that bullshit. Your snide comment is incredibly inappropriate.
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In less than a year well armed terrorists have killed more than 165 people in a country where guns are severely restricted. Three men killed 112 people tonight. Not one of the 112 people killed or the hundreds in the audience who were wounded or traumatized could do a thing to prevent the systematic carnage as they moved from person to person killing in the name of Allah! You can criticize me all you want, but what will you say if the day ever comes when you, a family member or a friend are wounded, or worse, when one person with a concealed carry permit could have made the difference.

As for what you call my "snide" remarks I call Liberal hypocrisy! Whenever we have a mass shooting the first words out of the President's mouth, and his allies, is not words of sympathy for the victims but calls for gun control. Talk about tasteless! Good luck in getting rid of the guns when the vast majority of our fellow Americans ponder what we must do to be prepared for in the future.
 
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destewart said:
In less than a year well armed terrorists have killed more than 165 people in a country where guns are severely restricted. Three men killed 112 people tonight. Not one of the 112 people killed or the hundreds in the audience who were wounded or traumatized could do a thing to prevent the systematic carnage as they moved from person to person killing in the name of Allah! You can criticize me all you want, but what will you say if the day ever comes when you, a family member or a friend are wounded, or worse, when one person with a concealed carry permit could have made the difference.

As for what you call my "snide" remarks I call Liberal hypocrisy! Whenever we have a mass shooting the first words out of the President's mouth, and his allies, is not words of sympathy for the victims but calls for gun control. Talk about tasteless! Good luck in getting rid of the guns when the vast majority of our fellow Americans ponder what we must be prepared for in the future.
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Way more people have died in the US than anywhere else because of guns so just shut the f up for once especially during a situation like this. The US is a laughing stock to the rest of the world for our terrible gun laws. If you were ever out of your small town sheltered life, you'd know that.
 
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DTailgater said:
Wow. That's pretty rough...
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Rough, I'll tell you what is tough. Review the tapes of the immediate comments of President Obama and other Democratic leaders in the immediate aftermath of some of our mass shootings. They seize the moment to make political hay and virtually ignore the victims and their loved ones. Now that is ROUGH!
 
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beardownboiler said:
Oh shut up! This isn't the time to get into that bullshit. Your snide comment is incredibly inappropriate.
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Yah right, just how so? The first thing I thought when hearing of this was.....too bad someone in the theater didn't have a gun to shoot them as they reloaded!
 
destewart said:
Rough, I'll tell you what is tough. Review the tapes of the immediate comments of President Obama and other Democratic leaders in the immediate aftermath of some of our mass shootings. They seize the moment to make political hay and virtually ignore the victims and their loved ones. Now that is ROUGH!
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Got it, thanks for your imput. Have a great day
 
jentz68 said:
Yah right, just how so? The first thing I thought when hearing of this was.....too bad someone in the theater didn't have a gun to shoot them as they reloaded!
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The US military spends billions a year to teach solders how to overcome human nature and kill other humans, but yeah some gun slinging accountant could have stopped this if only France allowed it.
 
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JPurdue said:
Right. I'm following that situation more than the game.

Stunned and saddened.
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Agree, wife's old boss and a friend has a college age daughter in Paris right now (college semester in Spain, went to Paris Friday for a weekend trip).

She is fine but it was a long day for him and his family. After hearing about his day it's sad that it takes something like this to remember that we all get worked up over kids (and some adults) playing a game.

That said I am still going to be pissed this time tomorrow after we piss away a chance to beat NW or get blown out by their RB, whichever happens.
 
Is there any doubt what is going on here? The jihadist are out to kill anyone who don;t follow there religion! It's not complicated. we need to take care of this. Let them do there shit in the middle east and nowhere else!
 
destewart said:
In less than a year well armed terrorists have killed more than 165 people in a country where guns are severely restricted. Three men killed 112 people tonight. Not one of the 112 people killed or the hundreds in the audience who were wounded or traumatized could do a thing to prevent the systematic carnage as they moved from person to person killing in the name of Allah! You can criticize me all you want, but what will you say if the day ever comes when you, a family member or a friend are wounded, or worse, when one person with a concealed carry permit could have made the difference.

As for what you call my "snide" remarks I call Liberal hypocrisy! Whenever we have a mass shooting the first words out of the President's mouth, and his allies, is not words of sympathy for the victims but calls for gun control. Talk about tasteless! Good luck in getting rid of the guns when the vast majority of our fellow Americans ponder what we must be prepared for in the future.
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des, I respect your posts but in this case I have to disagree. Any "good guy" pulling a gun in this situation would not only be a target of the "bad guys" but also the police. There would just be too much chaos in a situation like this for one good guy to do much good.
 
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destewart said:
How those guns laws helping France?
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What an a-hole you are. Pure scumbag! Ashamed you are a Boiler.
My wife teaches at a French-American school and some of her students are still waiting to hear from family members. I tried to take a break from this very sad moment by coming to this site and had to read your very insensitive comment. There is a time for everything, and tonight is definitely not the right time for that.
 
TheCainer said:
des, I respect your posts but in this case I have to disagree. Any "good guy" pulling a gun in this situation would not only be a target of the "bad guys" but also the police. There would just be too much chaos in a situation like this for one good guy to do much good.
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Scott O'Grady, an American F-16 Pilot shot down in Bosnia was just about shot by the combat search and rescue team sent to rescue him because he burst out the tree line sprinting at the helicopter brandishing his service pistol.

The notion that one motivated and trained guy with a firearm can prevent a coordinated mass tragedy is heroic, inspiring, and naive.
 
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Purdue 95 said:
It's not about trying to prevent the situation, it's about giving yourself a fvcking chance. You're telling me that if you were in that theater with a bunch of maniacs who want to kill you you'd rather be unarmed than armed? OK....tell me again who's naive?
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How many theaters in the world tonight had a shooting? How many kids tonight will find a gun and accidentally or intentionally shoot themselves or someone else?
 
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Purdue 95 said:
It's not about trying to prevent the situation, it's about giving yourself a fvcking chance. You're telling me that if you were in that theater with a bunch of maniacs who want to kill you you'd rather be unarmed than armed? OK....tell me again who's naive?
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You.

You might save yourself temporarily but you'd probably still be dead before the night was over.

Your best chance would be to lay low and look for a chance to get out of there or stay hidden until real help arrived. Real life isn't like an old hollywood western, as much as you would like to think.
 
kescwi said:
How many theaters in the world tonight had a shooting? How many kids tonight will find a gun and accidentally or intentionally shoot themselves or someone else?
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People who leave guns out for kids to find are complete idiots and shouldn't own them. I'm not going to argue that for a second. But that's not the issue here.

Nobody is telling you that you have to carry. If you're terrified of guns, that's OK. If that's the case, it's better that you not have one. But for those of us who are trained, competent, not psychotic, and know what we're doing with a firearm, it's not a problem.

It's not about how many theaters there are in the world. There's one tonight where it mattered and the people inside were sitting ducks. Those chicken-shit radicals knew they could walk in there and not one person would be able to defend themselves. It was shooting fish in a barrel.

God forbid you, me, or anyone we know is ever involved in a situation like this. But should it ever happen, I'm not gonna curl up in the fetal position and hope a good guy with a gun finds me before a bad guy with a gun.
 
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I'm all for concealed carry but these guys show up with bombs strapped to them not just guns.
the Islam community who are not crazy needs to get more involved to report the radicals.
 
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