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[BigRed3588]

Hey guys,

Some of you may remember me as a frequent poster over here in the past. Life has taken over and I don’t spend much time on the forums (IU or Purdue), nor do I really get a chance to watch the way I used to. I also don’t really have the urge with the way college basketball is operating now. Anyway, I watched yesterday’s game and just had a few things to say.

1. I absolutely think Leal should’ve been ejected. IMO, it was a flagrant 1 on Furst and a flagrant 2 on Leal. Couldn’t believe the no call.

2. I didn’t like the flagrant 1 on Kaufman, especially after the pass they gave Leal. Bigs can’t raise their hands anymore? Not sure either call impacted the outcome but that’s just how I felt about it.

3. Braden Smith was a player I wanted IU to pursue and I’m happy to see he’s had the career I thought he’d have. Like I said, I don’t watch a lot anymore but I remember him as a recruit and he turned out as expected. Not his best game yesterday but that happens. I’m always happy to see a homegrown player prosper.

Finally, I’ve gained a lot more respect for Painter. I always had respect for him as a coach but I loved hearing the announcers talk about how he didn’t have any transfers. NIL and the transfer portal kind of killed my love for college basketball and it’s great to see someone still trying to build a program. I hope IU’s next hire embraces the same philosophy. Maybe it would inspire me to care again.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Hey guys,

Some of you may remember me as a frequent poster over here in the past. Life has taken over and I don’t spend much time on the forums (IU or Purdue), nor do I really get a chance to watch the way I used to. I also don’t really have the urge with the way college basketball is operating now. Anyway, I watched yesterday’s game and just had a few things to say.

1. I absolutely think Leal should’ve been ejected. IMO, it was a flagrant 1 on Furst and a flagrant 2 on Leal. Couldn’t believe the no call.

2. I didn’t like the flagrant 1 on Kaufman, especially after the pass they gave Leal. Bigs can’t raise their hands anymore? Not sure either call impacted the outcome but that’s just how I felt about it.

3. Braden Smith was a player I wanted IU to pursue and I’m happy to see he’s had the career I thought he’d have. Like I said, I don’t watch a lot anymore but I remember him as a recruit and he turned out as expected. Not his best game yesterday but that happens. I’m always happy to see a homegrown player prosper.

Finally, I’ve gained a lot more respect for Painter. I always had respect for him as a coach but I loved hearing the announcers talk about how he didn’t have any transfers. NIL and the transfer portal kind of killed my love for college basketball and it’s great to see someone still trying to build a program. I hope IU’s next hire embraces the same philosophy. Maybe it would inspire me to care again.

All coaches must use all tools to improve their team, even if that is through NIL......after all, even development teams like Purdue are still relying on NIL to retain talent. Just part of the game now.....and I will be disappointed in CMP if he doesn't bring in new NIL players this off season.

 

[Dryfly88]

All coaches must use all tools to improve their team, even if that is through NIL......after all, even development teams like Purdue are still relying on NIL to retain talent. Just part of the game now.....and I will be disappointed in CMP if he doesn't bring in new NIL players this off season.

Agree completely. I really don't get how somehow it's more noble because CMP didn't get any transfers. I'm pretty sure he won't be as noble next year!

 

[Ihaveswag29]

All coaches must use all tools to improve their team, even if that is through NIL......after all, even development teams like Purdue are still relying on NIL to retain talent. Just part of the game now.....and I will be disappointed in CMP if he doesn't bring in new NIL players this off season.

I mean do you know if Purdue has the nil? Next year needs to be about retaining and potentially getting one guy. Almost all of college basketball is going to be depleted except for us if we can keep our guys.

 

[RespecttheStars]

Agree completely. I really don't get how somehow it's more noble because CMP didn't get any transfers. I'm pretty sure he won't be as noble next year!

And I agree as well to a degree.

But we disagree on the definition of nobility.
Painter is adrift.
Here’s why:

Deserves it for not bending to the landscape of his peers.

There are ways to do business as
it evolves or retain your soul.
He chose the later.
These are the results.

Catchings kid.
He calls on show up day and spoke to Painter. And quit.
Gave demands/parameters.
Done.

Calls back 3 days later to an assistant (TJ) and asks to come back. Hold please.

Ever own a business?? Ever have eyes on you from all over the building. Ever sign a payroll check on the front? I have.

Painter said GFY.
God love him.

That’s nobility defined my brother.

Us bigger than you.

Kid is/was a potential one and done local talent .
All the best to him.
But what an enormous waste of time and resources for Purdue. Spent years on him.

And yes — Purdue would be completely different this year with him and the broken leg kid.

He had apparently
become not what a Coach/Parent/Employer wants around if that’s what he (and his) now are.
On principle.

Wanted guaranteed minutes
and the start.
That was on show-up day!!

Painter gets on the line and “guarantees”
him “the opportunity to compete for all of it”.
On principle.
Dial tone.

Kid felt the pressure of competition and wanted a guaranteed compliant
environment.
It’s a thing now apparently.
Found it last minute out west and is doing well. Good for him.

Culture. Nobility. Honesty

And yes — Purdue now losing/struggling and on a potential path to the MAC if it continues in 3-5 years.
On principle.

Principle is what it is.
Fall on it.
Or ignore it and whore it up.

Nice to see a real dude saying real things.

And get this—-I’m a wool dyed IU fan.
For decades.

Ponder that a minute.

On principle.

 

[Old Gold n Black]

And I agree as well to a degree.

But we disagree on the definition of nobility.
Painter is adrift.
Here’s why:

Deserves it for not bending to the landscape of his peers.

There are ways to do business as
it evolves or retain your soul.
He chose the later.
These are the results.

Catchings kid.
He calls on show up day and spoke to Painter. And quit.
Gave demands/parameters.
Done.

Calls back 3 days later to an assistant (TJ) and asks to come back. Hold please.

Ever own a business?? Ever have eyes on you from all over the building. Ever sign a payroll check on the front? I have.

Painter said GFY.
God love him.

That’s nobility defined my brother.

Us bigger than you.

Kid is/was a potential one and done local talent .
All the best to him.
But what an enormous waste of time and resources for Purdue. Spent years on him.

And yes — Purdue would be completely different this year with him and the broken leg kid.

He had apparently
become not what a Coach/Parent/Employer wants around if that’s what he (and his) now are.
On principle.

Wanted guaranteed minutes
and the start.
That was on show-up day!!

Painter gets on the line and “guarantees”
him “the opportunity to compete for all of it”.
On principle.
Dial tone.

Kid felt the pressure of competition and wanted a guaranteed compliant
environment.
It’s a thing now apparently.
Found it last minute out west and is doing well. Good for him.

Culture. Nobility. Honesty

And yes — Purdue now losing/struggling and on a potential path to the MAC if it continues in 3-5 years.
On principle.

Principle is what it is.
Fall on it.
Or ignore it and whore it up.

Nice to see a real dude saying real things.

And get this—-I’m a wool dyed IU fan.
For decades.

Ponder that a minute.

On principle.

Just read through your poem. Was that some haiku shit or something?

 

[BigRed3588]

All coaches must use all tools to improve their team, even if that is through NIL......after all, even development teams like Purdue are still relying on NIL to retain talent. Just part of the game now.....and I will be disappointed in CMP if he doesn't bring in new NIL players this off season.

I can live with the team bringing in a player here and there, but I’m a lifelong IU fan and alum. I grew up believing you played for the name on the front of the jersey, and that’s not what I’m seeing now. It’s been a revolving door and I miss watching the development of players who care about the school. Purdue still has that and I respect it.