NIT. You play BBall, play bbal!

[Boilerfla]

Thoughts? I’m thinking you play and compete wherever and whenever, get the athletes experience

Kinda arrogant to decline

The full list of NIT-declining schools, per ESPN: Arizona State, California, Florida State, Indiana, Maryland, Memphis, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Oregon State, Pitt, St. Bonaventure, St. John's, Stanford, Syracuse, UCLA, USC, Washington

 

[boilerzz]

Disagree. It's become a waste and with the portal opening two days ago, teams do themselves a disservice for next year by playing in something no one cares about.

 

[qazplm]

Thoughts? I’m thinking you play and compete wherever and whenever, get the athletes experience

Kinda arrogant to decline

The full list of NIT-declining schools, per ESPN: Arizona State, California, Florida State, Indiana, Maryland, Memphis, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Oregon State, Pitt, St. Bonaventure, St. John's, Stanford, Syracuse, UCLA, USC, Washington

Or you get a head start on the portal.

 

[Boilerfla]

I’ll bet most players would like to play and they care

So the all teams in Big Dance are not working and looking at portal?

Play the games guys, create the culture

 

[qazplm]

I’ll bet most players would like to play and they care

So the all teams in Big Dance are not working and looking at portal?

Play the games guys, create the culture

Well, if you can get a head start on the portal and improve your team that's more important than if your guys care.

Tournament is different and can create buzz around your program.

 

[Smokestack91]

As Painter said a week or so ago about the decision to play in the CBI 10+ years ago, he wanted see who on the team wanted to play ball.

 

[Boilerfla]

How many tourney teams wouldn’t be there if not for automatics?

 

[Boilerfla]

Well, if you can get a head start on the portal and improve your team that's more important than if your guys care.

Tournament is different and can create buzz around your program.

Playing more games gives you a jump on next year by seeing who is hungry, play some you get guys, team bonding , I’m old school, play ball

 

[qazplm]

As Painter said a week or so ago about the decision to play in the CBI 10+ years ago, he wanted see who on the team wanted to play ball.

No NIL and no portal ten years ago.

 

[Boilerfla]

Playing more games gives you a jump on next year by seeing who is hungry, play some you get guys, team bonding , I’m old school, play ball

“Play some younger guys”

 

[qazplm]

Playing more games gives you a jump on next year by seeing who is hungry, play some you get guys, team bonding , I’m old school, play ball

No, not really. Besides, your entire team can be different by next season now.

 

[Boilerfla]

St joes and seton hall good game

 

[icewind7]

I bet those guys that don't usually get play time want do this for fun.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Thoughts? I’m thinking you play and compete wherever and whenever, get the athletes experience

Kinda arrogant to decline

The full list of NIT-declining schools, per ESPN: Arizona State, California, Florida State, Indiana, Maryland, Memphis, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Oregon State, Pitt, St. Bonaventure, St. John's, Stanford, Syracuse, UCLA, USC, Washington

I've seen people suggest that playing in the NIT tournament atmosphere has helped teams be successful the following year. I don't know how true that is, but it's good that some of these players who felt they should have been invited to the NCAA get to continue playing.

If I was a head coach, I might put an assistant in charge of NIT preparation while the rest of my staff worked the portal.

 

[Boilerfla]

All the teams in NIT think it’s a good thing for their program 👍

Boiler Up Fri friends !!

 

[Smokestack91]

No NIL and no portal ten years ago.

I doubt Painter's attitude would be any different today.

 

[qazplm]

I doubt Painter's attitude would be any different today.

If our team was bad enough to be CBI eligible that means he's working the portal so yeah his attitude might very well be different. He's not going to trade making the next team better because of some sort of old school thinking.

 

[PaBoiler78]

If our team was bad enough to be CBI eligible that means he's working the portal so yeah his attitude might very well be different. He's not going to trade making the next team better because of some sort of old school thinking.

that portal should have been put off for another 2 weeks or so

 

[qazplm]

that portal should have been put off for another 2 weeks or so

Sure, I bet if it was, fewer teams decline. Might be a change next season.

that portal should have been put off for another 2 weeks or so

 

[Boilerfla]

Three big 10 teams win!

32 programs think it’s good for their program

 

[qazplm]

Three big 10 teams win!

32 programs think it’s good for their program

And others don't. Different approaches. A young team might view it differently from a team that needs to retool and rebuild. Or a team like OSU that came on late might want to keep it going and keep it together vice an IU team that's clearly going to be very different next season.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Sure, I bet if it was, fewer teams decline. Might be a change next season.

not only that it's a slight disservice to the big dance event in that some are talking about the portal when all attention should be on the main event

 

[Boilerfla]

That’s the best idea, only open portal after all games done, thst seems to be common sense, oh yeah, that’s why ncaa hasn’t done it 🤓

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Well, if you can get a head start on the portal and improve your team that's more important than if your guys care.

Tournament is different and can create buzz around your program.

Plus it can cost you money if you host a game and your fans don’t show.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Plus it can cost you money if you host a game and your fans don’t show.

Probably why Indinia declined? 22 fans won't cover the light bill.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

Probably why Indinia declined? 22 fans won't cover the light bill.

They probably would have lost in the first round is the biggest reason.

 

[purduedavie]

that portal should have been put off for another 2 weeks or so

Yep, kids can finish out seasons, it’s a extra week or two.

 

[purduedavie]

That’s the best idea, only open portal after all games done, thst seems to be common sense, oh yeah, that’s why ncaa hasn’t done it 🤓

Exactly, season isn’t over yet, kids can wait 2-3 weeks.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

This is the same as bowl games now. If it not the biggest bowls or stage, many players don't care to play. I guess with NIL money many don't see the need of possibly getting hurt.

 

[Wolegib]

Play the games. Get the exposure. IU is so worried about recruiting and the portal? By not playing they just lost two more players! I recall one year Purdue accepted the opportunity to play in that third tournament. Just to play basketball.

My thoughts on recruiting and the portal is if you haven’t added anybody by now, you aren’t going to add anybody by not playing.

And you can’t tell me teams playing in the big dance are not also recruiting and playing the portal. Look at Purdue and Painter. He’s still recruiting and playing the portal. He’s still going to high school games. He doesn’t have any scholarships to give but that doesn’t stop him from recruiting. He may no longer recruiting 2024 grads, but he is knee deep in recruiting players from 2025 and 2026. Recruiting and playing go hand in hand.

I feel sorry for those who say they need to dedicate their time to recruiting and the portal as a reason for not playing in the nit. Those are the same coaches who blame the refs and pregnant hippopotamus for losing!

 

[BoilerAndy]

They probably would have lost in the first round is the biggest reason.

This. They were completely embarrassed at home the last time they played in the NIT. I don't even remember who beat them. They probably said, "never again".

 

[BoilerAndy]

Those are the same coaches who blame the refs and pregnant hippopotamus for losing!

I missed that one. That could be the answer to a LOT of questions. I hope it's on Painter's radar.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Probably why Indinia declined? 22 fans won't cover the light bill.

The only winners would be Seat Geek and Stub Hub charging $6 fees on $1 tickets.

 

[RossMackey]

Well, if you can get a head start on the portal and improve your team that's more important than if your guys care.

Tournament is different and can create buzz around your program.

This may seem like a dumb question, but I literally do not know:

How would playing in the NIT prevent “getting a head start” on the portal? Are there restrictions on whether potential players can be contacted or visit teams during NIT practices?

Honestly, I don’t know how this works…

 

[qazplm]

This may seem like a dumb question, but I literally do not know:

How would playing in the NIT prevent “getting a head start” on the portal? Are there restrictions on whether potential players can be contacted or visit teams during NIT practices?

Honestly, I don’t know how this works…

I mean if you are coaching and scouting for games it's going to take away some ability to do anything else.

 

[LousiBFree]

Thoughts? I’m thinking you play and compete wherever and whenever, get the athletes experience

Kinda arrogant to decline

There may be compelling reasons not to participate these days, but it still pisses me off. Players and coaches are in the game to compete! I would be very disappointed if Purdue turned down an invitation to the NIT.

 

[The Boiler Special]

Just like college football bowls, the NIT will be dead in a few years... I don't believe it's a good thing but its just the nature of where College (semi-pro) sports are these days...

 

[BoilerAndy]

Just like college football bowls, the NIT will be dead in a few years... I don't believe it's a good thing but its just the nature of where College (semi-pro) sports are these days...

I don't think college football bowls are going away. Too much money. Other than the footbal "Final Four", it has far less meaning than in the past, but I think the coaches and fans like to see their teams play one more game.

Maybe the same is true for college basketball -- I don't know. I thought the NIT would disappear when the NCAA expanded their tournament to 64. But the NIT kept going, and we now see the CBI and CIT. I don't know anything about their financials, but as long as they are making money, they will probably stay around.

 

[RossMackey]

I mean if you are coaching and scouting for games it's going to take away some ability to do anything else.

Thanks.

Honestly I’d be more than a little concerned about a major college coach (given the vast monetary ,personnel and support resources at his disposal) who actually used this as an excuse to not play…

It makes you wonder: How in the world did Bill Self carve out the time needed to lure Dickinson from Michigan to KU amid his annual NCAA prep time?? 😂😂

 

[The Boiler Special]

I don't think college football bowls are going away. Too much money. Other than the footbal "Final Four", it has far less meaning than in the past, but I think the coaches and fans like to see their teams play one more game.

Maybe the same is true for college basketball -- I don't know. I thought the NIT would disappear when the NCAA expanded their tournament to 64. But the NIT kept going, and we now see the CBI and CIT. I don't know anything about their financials, but as long as they are making money, they will probably stay around.

As long as more and more players opt out it will kill bowl games... Who wants to spend money to watch your 3rd string players play in a bowl? The average fan doesn't want to see that... They're 3rd string for a reason...