I’ve never really followed Purdue basketball so I have no sides or preconceived notion of anything.. I’m just gonna tell you what I saw, and you can lambast me from there
> Ivey … Is he a world beater? Or just a guy with some explosive attributes who can destroy you if you play him like he’s any other dude, but hasn’t figured out how to make teams pay when he’s the focal point of their D? I’ve watched enough NBA bell in my life to know that he will slip out of the lottery if he leaves and that he needs another year to figure it out. Obviously only a moron doesn’t know that the makings of a great bell player are there.
> I get what painter is trying to do with Edey and Williams .. I don’t think the “game has changed” in the NBA so much as the rules have changed to legislate the true center out in an attempt to artificially create offense AND that coaches below the NBA are too lazy to teach post footwork.
here’s what’s sad. Edey and Williams would have become more and more effective as teams for bigger later in this tournament.. but as time goes on you’re seeing more and more of these giant killers who can swarm the true center, deny the ball and knock teams like Purdue out.
what painter needs, if he’s gonna have a guy like Edey is to also have his opposite on the bench… a Donnell Harvey type.. so you can laugh at teams like St. Peter’s.
you wanted to hear announcers saying something like “look, St. Peter’s could clog the lane against Edey and made it hard to get the ball, particularly Down low, but look what happened when painter brought Harvey in.. Harvey isn’t trying to establish down low position on Drame so much as he’s just telling Drame ‘I can play your game, but I’m bigger, more explosive and better at it.”
and no, I’m not suggesting painter needs to have a player as GOOD as a Harvey off the bench … but at Purdue you should able to have a bench guy of that type who can out Drame Drame.
if painter wants to play the center game, which I love, he should consider having a non traditional wrecking ball type for contrast.
> to me, on the perimeter, at last nights level of play, you win with one of two types…
you can be hunter, Thompson, Stefanovich and EITHER
(1) have elite physical tools - “did you see how the little guards for at Peter’s got laughed at by Purdue? Their game was quickness and the Purdue guards were with them step for step”
OR
(2) be that guy who just jacks open amd even contested shots all day and the other team just looks drained trying to defend said player when he doesn’t have the ball (and ostensibly when he does) … a player who just seems to burn you all game long, physical traits be damned
You can’t be Neither and you probably need at least one guy who is both. Ivey wasn’t both and everyone else looked neither.
obviously painter can coach. I’d love for football to have a Matt painter … I think Virginia football never did much spectacular but one coach had them with like two decades of winning seasons.
but he is Matt Painter because he’s the kind of guy who will likely evolve before his next run in a couple years. And during his next run I think you may see some of what I said reflected.
> Ivey … Is he a world beater? Or just a guy with some explosive attributes who can destroy you if you play him like he’s any other dude, but hasn’t figured out how to make teams pay when he’s the focal point of their D? I’ve watched enough NBA bell in my life to know that he will slip out of the lottery if he leaves and that he needs another year to figure it out. Obviously only a moron doesn’t know that the makings of a great bell player are there.
> I get what painter is trying to do with Edey and Williams .. I don’t think the “game has changed” in the NBA so much as the rules have changed to legislate the true center out in an attempt to artificially create offense AND that coaches below the NBA are too lazy to teach post footwork.
here’s what’s sad. Edey and Williams would have become more and more effective as teams for bigger later in this tournament.. but as time goes on you’re seeing more and more of these giant killers who can swarm the true center, deny the ball and knock teams like Purdue out.
what painter needs, if he’s gonna have a guy like Edey is to also have his opposite on the bench… a Donnell Harvey type.. so you can laugh at teams like St. Peter’s.
you wanted to hear announcers saying something like “look, St. Peter’s could clog the lane against Edey and made it hard to get the ball, particularly Down low, but look what happened when painter brought Harvey in.. Harvey isn’t trying to establish down low position on Drame so much as he’s just telling Drame ‘I can play your game, but I’m bigger, more explosive and better at it.”
and no, I’m not suggesting painter needs to have a player as GOOD as a Harvey off the bench … but at Purdue you should able to have a bench guy of that type who can out Drame Drame.
if painter wants to play the center game, which I love, he should consider having a non traditional wrecking ball type for contrast.
> to me, on the perimeter, at last nights level of play, you win with one of two types…
you can be hunter, Thompson, Stefanovich and EITHER
(1) have elite physical tools - “did you see how the little guards for at Peter’s got laughed at by Purdue? Their game was quickness and the Purdue guards were with them step for step”
OR
(2) be that guy who just jacks open amd even contested shots all day and the other team just looks drained trying to defend said player when he doesn’t have the ball (and ostensibly when he does) … a player who just seems to burn you all game long, physical traits be damned
You can’t be Neither and you probably need at least one guy who is both. Ivey wasn’t both and everyone else looked neither.
obviously painter can coach. I’d love for football to have a Matt painter … I think Virginia football never did much spectacular but one coach had them with like two decades of winning seasons.
but he is Matt Painter because he’s the kind of guy who will likely evolve before his next run in a couple years. And during his next run I think you may see some of what I said reflected.
