He called Loyer "Foster" right before Loyer ran into their table.One more thing - Bardo announcing talisman still working so far, but it's lost some of its luster.
Michigan State vs. Purdue: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD
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Both. Had this happened @Wisconsin when the B10 lead was at stake I’d say the same thing. That game felt crucial. Still wouldn’t have been worth injuring either player. You act as if I’m saying don’t play them at all in the game to begin with. After they are both Injured and both aren’t even playing particularly great (very possibly due to the injury) why do you let it potentially become worse? If either had walked it off and continued playing at the same level? Sure
It all ended well with the slobbering, crying Wizzo taking the loss.
I usually don't get into the game thread because I'm focused too much on the game to type. But what I do is go back to the last couple of pages, effectively the post-game thread. Much more rationale I'm sure.
I'm sure Painter got clearance from the training staff, and from Braden himself, before putting him back in the game.
The game was not meaningless.
Purdue shot below 25% from three 11 times last year. They've shot less than 25% from three only once this season. Why am I not surprised you can't see the difference?
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Edey explained it after the game. The the players and coaches, every game is crucial. It's what makes them champions.
Well, I stated my view, but I care about the players reaching their goals in front of them. It is not about me. I am owed nothing and don't know more than the coaches, trainers and the players themselves about dictating to them what their goals should be like winning this one is important and that one isn't even if they think it is.
I hear you, and Zach Edey did miss three front ends I think (the two in the 2nd half were @ 52-47 and 54-47.....those really hurt).
Now - with that, I also like to look at the last 2/3 minutes of a game. Purdue went 6/8 (ZE - 2/2. LJ - 2/4, and MG - 2/2 to effectively seal it).... 9/11 first half was good.
So....silver lining.....maybe.....haha.
I may at half and read them all later. I can't post and watch either
After the game Painter just said, Braden was dealing with a calf injury that hurt his aggressiveness. It’s one of those things that can be better the next day, or you get progressively worse. Knowing that information, you think it’s justifiable to throw him out there 1 week before the NCAAT? If you do, fine, I respectfully and harshly disagree.
As my son-in-law law is an AT, would have been nice to hear from athletic trainer about the Smith injury.
First I thought AT response time was slow. Additionally, I thought Smith wasn't in locker room long enough for a diagnostic?
Hope ATs are all over the follow up treatment prost game. Of course after the beating the whole team took, the AT staff should be plenty busy.
Anyway, hope some reporter is curious enough to ask a few questions.
First I thought AT response time was slow. Additionally, I thought Smith wasn't in locker room long enough for a diagnostic?
Hope ATs are all over the follow up treatment prost game. Of course after the beating the whole team took, the AT staff should be plenty busy.
Anyway, hope some reporter is curious enough to ask a few questions.
Kim had already heard me mention how important it was for Zach to hit his Fts or he was going to be at the line a lot. Lance missing didn't help even though I mentioned we needed at least one and were in double bonus and when Mason was fouled I said that was it. She said, don't say that! I said Kim...he is from New Castle...they don't miss FTs.
Hey...Hey....that's some good Karma thought. I wouldn't mind Purdue's season ending in a similar fashion......
"Do you believe in miracles?"
"YES!"
Did our starting point guard get evaluated by one before he was put back in the game? And yeah, you can make a calf injury worse, you don’t need a degree for that one.
This is 2024 NCAA basketball. Not 1980 Olympic hockey. And if it we want it to be 1980 Purdue basketball, we need our starting point guard.
He wasn't evaluated by a doctor, but I trust our Athletic Training staff to make the correct judgement.
I do not know if you can make that injury worse, because we really don't know what the injury is, do we? See point above.
And in Minny some fans thought Braden was faking it. You just can’t make this stuff up.
Bardo has devolved in the past couple years. He is borderline insufferable at this point.
It's really not an outrageous opinion for someone to think that it wasn't worth putting him back into this game if it in any way jeapordizes next week and beyond.
Agree. Ok to be concerned. Ok to ask questions.
Hope the AT staff are asked some questions about this as it looked bad....and seemed to be handled quickly for as bad as it looked. Glad it wasn't as bad as it looked. But still worth some questions.
True, but I see that as a mischaracterization of what happened. Braden was hurt. Braden walked off putting some weight on his leg. Braden was seen by the trainer that has probably worked with more sports related injuries than a random doctor. The trainer had no issues. Braden wanted to play. It "appears" Matt was talking to him and I'm guessing asking if he can go...not wanting to jeopardize the other player's desire with a player that couldn't go. Braden was laughing and wanted to play and so Matt put him in and Purdue won.
At Minny there were Purdue fans questioning if Braden was faking it. Just for the record Braden played with a fracture in his foot for 16 months...the kid is tough and wants to win. If he doesn't play and thinks he can and Purdue gets beat...not only Braden, but the rest of the team are not happy campers.
It may be hard to do, but trying to see things through their perspective rather than an outsider many times requires a different focus. Just as a FYI Dustin is having a beer right now with a Dr that asked if he knew me. I told him the Dr has known me forever and his wife was my older sister's best friend in high school. Small world...no idea the Dr was up there.
Fact: Braden left the gameTrue, but I see that as a mischaracterization of what happened. Braden was hurt. Braden walked off putting some weight on his leg. Braden was seen by the trainer that has probably worked with more sports related injuries than a random doctor. The trainer had no issues. Braden wanted to play. It "appears" Matt was talking to him and I'm guessing asking if he can go...not wanting to jeopardize the other player's desire with a player that couldn't go. Braden was laughing and wanted to play and so Matt put him in and Purdue won.
At Minny there were Purdue fans questioning if Braden was faking it. Just for the record Braden played with a fracture in his foot for 16 months...the kid is tough and wants to win. If he doesn't play and thinks he can and Purdue gets beat...not only Braden, but the rest of the team are not happy campers.
It may be hard to do, but trying to see things through their perspective rather than an outsider many times requires a different focus. Just as a FYI Dustin is having a beer right now with a Dr that asked if he knew me. I told him the Dr has known me forever and his wife was my older sister's best friend in high school. Small world...no idea the Dr was up there.
Fact: Braden returned and was not even close to 100%
Fact: there is a real possibility the injury could have been aggravated by returning
Fact: Braden is the WORST injury we could take. TKR at the 5 wouldn’t be worse than LJ at PG.
There could be a debate back and forth if the injury was serious enough to hold him out of the game
It’s not a mischaracterization that he was playing injured and less effective and it could have easily ruined the season
None of that has anything to do whether he should play or not. Others have tried to tell you as much. Keep your opinion it is fine. Discussing such farther is meaningless and I have no issue with you holding your opinion. I disagree. Matt disagreed. Braden disagreed. The trainer disagreed. The players disagreed, but as you suggest that doesn't mean they were right. Lot of different opinions on a lot of different things and life goes on. No problem
You said the situation is being mischaracterized. I argued it wasn’t. Then you changed the argument to if he should have played. You can disagree and think he should have played. I can’t imagine what you thought the benefit was as he wasn’t even playing well after, but I can concede that’s your opinion.
Painter played an injured player, critical to the team, in a game that in the long term is less important that the NCAAT. There is no mischaracterization in that.
This is a beaten horse by now, but only your first point is an actual fact. The rest are supposition and opinion. And guessing.
I like Bardo for the most part but when he was talking about Edey's development he said he came to Purdue as a gangly 17 yr old boy.
427...listen to the 5 minute Painter presser in the thread on this site. He literally said that if Braden could have injured the calf more, he probably wouldn't have played him.
