Why would you care more about a concrete monument than people actually shooting each other?
because no statue ever harmed anyone. But a gang banging thug on the south side of Chicago harms plenty of people. I think you have your anger misdirected.
You know I'm not afraid to talk about race......I tell it like it is and don't give a $hit what your skin color is or whether you might get offended (not "you" personally BNI, but others who might get offended when I bring up certain uncomfortable facts and data about black society) .
The "states' rights" defenders actually have a point, though not in the way intended. It was Northern states who insisted their rights were being violated. Southern states had wanted the federal government to more actively protect slavery by cracking down on the Underground Railroad and allowing slavery to expand west. The Compromise of 1850 included a tougher fugitive slave law that did the former, forcing federal agents to track down, arrest, and transport self-emancipated people back to the South. The Dred Scott case did the latter, overturning the Missouri Compromise and the doctrine of popular sovereignty, meaning that slavery was no longer limited to below the latitude of 36°30′. Both the Compromise of 1850 and the Dred Scott case enraged Northerners, who saw these events as violating state sovereignty, and increased support for abolition. Additionally, it's difficult to say the Confederacy was a bastion of states' rights when it imposed a mandatory military draft.
No, what will stop it (although admittedly it will take some considerable time) is to reverse laws that promote fatherless homes. Bring back the nuclear family to black communities and things will turn around.
Because the topic is not important. It's a fukking statue. It's not hurting anyone. We need real solutions to REAL problems, yet you grasp on to any false narrative you can to paint the right racist. You're the problem here. Not us.
Your response is beyond dumb. Your statement is an example of white arrogance and perhaps white privilege. Just because the confederate monument issue is not important to you, it’s important to millions of other folks. The confederate monument is obviously important enough to the assholes, including the black assholes in congress that voted to re-instate. My thread is a stand alone thread. I did not deflect to this issue in the middle discussing another topic. Like the old saying, “you throw a rock in the middle of a pack of dogs and the one that yipes is the one that you hit”. This seem to hit home with you and you don’t want to admit that you are racist because you dismiss this issue as being not important.
Not important, these confederate monuments and statues were erected during the Jim Crow era for no another reason than for symbols of hate towards another group of people. These confederate monuments were not erected to remember history. In Germany there ain’t no statues and monuments of the defunct Nazi regime.
Wrong. Every post you put on this forum is beyond dumb. You're almost not worth responding to anymore because it's the same tired shit from you over and over. AND you refuse to learn when you're PROVEN wrong.
I never said it's not important to some people. Just that these people have their priorities all fukked up because there are MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT!
That sounds fine and dandy but how do you bring back the nuclear family in the black communities?
True, part of the racist legacy of the dem party that you mindlessly support, Uncle Pav.
We've already been through this. You know darn well that the 2 parties switched roles over 50 years ago. White supremacists like the KKK, Oath Keepers, Nazis don't support the Democratic Party no more. They are all in now for the repubs.
You're the voice of black America hear, you tell us.
I am certain King would not vote for a racist like Joe Crow. Only Uncle Tom-like blacks would vote for Crow.
Dude, I told you several times. It’s not about outside folks like you mentioned, entertainers, athletes etc., “tackling” the 72% as you put it. It’s about the folks living in these areas of gangs and crime to help themselves. Somehow these folks will need to realize that what they are doing is detrimental to their communities. Then change their lifestyles accordingly. That is the only way. Not anyone external to situation like the aforementioned folks that you listed. They’ve tried for decades.
No they didn't. And I've proven to you over and over that they didn't but you continue this lie because, as I said before, you refuse to learn when you're proven wrong.
Then why are you voting for dems, the party of big gov support programs, instead of repubs, the party of self-responsibility and self-help? By voting dem you are supporting the status quo in black communities.
Like I said many times, In the late 60s, Sen. Barry Goldwater and other republicans in essence kicked blacks out of the republican party. Some blacks stayed. But certainly after the disaster of the 1968 republican national convention, blacks felt disenfranchised as the repubs tried to implement the so-called Southern Strategy to attract the racist southern democrats to vote for Nixon. Since the late 60s, the repubs were never on the side of black folks. Their voting record proves it as they were no more champions of civil rights issues. Voting against affirmative action programs. Reagan started the narrative of the so-called welfare queens back in the 80s. I believe it was Lee Atwater, the father of the Southern Strategy campaign, that was behind those racist Willie Horton ads for Bush the Elder. White supremacists including the KKK have gravitated from the dems to the repubs. Throughout the years the repubs have done and have said racist things. This current crop of repub lawmakers have voted against affirmative action, John Lewis Voting rights bill, anti-lynching bill, Pell Grants, etc. Just recently, the conservative controlled Supreme Court deemed shot down affirmative action case from Harvard.
I want you to explain why you keep supporting the status quo for black disfunction even though you admit the problem is one of personal responsibility. You diagnose the problem, but continue to support those who do not want to solve it because they benefit politically from it. Dems are using you and others like you.
He answered it. Statues in the graveyard and issues in the 60s.
Dude, I answered it several times now. If you don't like my answer, that is on you. Just let me know when the repubs come up with an alternative to help the so-called black disfunction that you keep talking about.
That I keep talking about? You brought it up above with the following words:
I disagree 100%. Who do you think these people look up to, listen to or try to emulate? Liberal pols, preachers, sure, maybe some. But, a lot of them put too much worth/value into what entertainers, athletes, media, etc have to say, an unfortunately, a lot of them came up through similar circumstances.
Whatever, man. I answered your question several times.
You don't seem to comprehend what I'm saying. There has been community programs. Big brother Big sister programs. Church programs. Almost every top pro athlete has a foundation for inner city kids. Rappers have made stop the violence songs and videos. Plus more and there are still inner city problems. Therefore, that is why I came to the conclusion that the folks living in these communities will have to finally come around and address, as you put it, the single mother, gangs, violence issue themselves. There is no policy that the aforementioned, the dems, the repubs can do to change there lives other than themselves. Even if these folks deceide right now to stop the foolishness, it will take a couple of generations to make a difference. The bottom line is that you can replace all the dem politicians with republicans, replace all the DAs with conservatives, take away teachers unions, the the single mother issue, gangs, violence will remain.
No, of course not.
The dems so-called status quo has nothing to do with folks making their own choices of being single mothers, kids joining gangs, car jacking, sometimes the gangs forces them into the gang, dealing dope, etc.
