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Wow, talk about missing the point. No wonder you're an IU fan. Again since you're slow.... no one on here cares what people on peegs thinks. Now, slow down and read that a few times so maybe you'll catch on. Being an IU fan I don't expect muchI believe you are confused. You already swung and missed, so I simply mocked you. Get with the conversation or go monitor the football board. Sheriff BBG. Lol
And now I'm done responding to you since you lack the ability to grasp a simple point and have nothing worthwhile to add.
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Your point Is not part of the conversation, that is the point. You live in a PU vacuum or you beat your head against the wall too many times after that loss in March. Exit out of your bubble and read the posts above mine, it's on topic...Would IU fans want CMP as iu's coach? It's not hard to understand. If you want IU fans opinion, ask IU fans. Rather you but in because you're afraid to hear an honest answer which would blow up your attempt to monitor this board. I find that quite funny on a msg board. I ask a simply question and I'm missing the point. Hahahaha good one. I prefer you do ignore me, as my response may go beyond your board policies. Lol
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I see the comprehension problem. You said Painter can't coach raw players. I said that the coaches they moved on to also failed to get anything out of them indicating that the players were not capable of developing to play at a high D1 level. Therefore we agree that they were bad recruits. You can't have it both ways. Crickets aren't bad if you roast them. How does it feel to be obtuse?
I think I would know the answer on Peegs, but that could change very quickly based on this year's outcomes. Right now, I think most Peeg's posters would prefer Crean over Painter, but some would like almost anyone more so than Crean. Sometimes it becomes a "beauty contest" and "What have you done for me lately", and that mind set makes me crazy.I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said. I'm an IU fan, but not a Crean fan. He's our coach so I support him, but the day he is not, I will have a big smile on my face. I also like CMP, even though I think he has some weaknesses in running a program too. I know you post on peegs free boards. If you want a true answer whether IU fans would rather have Painter or Crean, ask it on Peegs. It would be interesting to see the results.
By the way, my statements about Crean are all the worst parts of the guy. I listed those because I was trying to make a point with CPR. Sometimes I don't know why I try. I know the angles these guys take, and for CPR, I may as well be casting pearls. I'm not going to change his mind, but I don't like miss-statements to stand unchallenged. Oh well.
Well keep your head up, there is someone out there for everyone.
BBG isn't wrong. I especially like how you complain about butting in, yet that is exactly what you did in this thread. So you might want to look up what the word hypocrite means because you friend, are missing many points.Your point Is not part of the conversation, that is the point. You live in a PU vacuum or you beat your head against the wall too many times after that loss in March. Exit out of your bubble and read the posts above mine, it's on topic...Would IU fans want CMP as iu's coach? It's not hard to understand. If you want IU fans opinion, ask IU fans. Rather you but in because you're afraid to hear an honest answer which would blow up your attempt to monitor this board. I find that quite funny on a msg board. I ask a simply question and I'm missing the point. Hahahaha good one. I prefer you do ignore me, as my response may go beyond your board policies. Lol
That is all I am going to comment about it. Now please stop trying to police our board and inject yourself in to a conversation only to complain about someone doing what you just did.
Lol you have no further comment cause you are here to take a quick jab & leave. Too funny and typically here. Go read CPRH9U's post and his argument. "What would IU fans say"... Lol yeah, I'm missing the point. No, you're just afraid to hear someone else's opinion. If I said, "Crean is awesome & Painter sucks". That is butting in. Math even responded to my post with a reasonable answer, which is all I asked. So put me on ignore along with BBG, you angry little man. Lol
I think I would know the answer on Peegs, but that could change very quickly based on this year's outcomes. Right now, I think most Peeg's posters would prefer Crean over Painter, but some would like almost anyone more so than Crean. Sometimes it becomes a "beauty contest" and "What have you done for me lately", and that mind set makes me crazy.
By the way, my statements about Crean are all the worst parts of the guy. I listed those because I was trying to make a point with CPR. Sometimes I don't know why I try. I know the angles these guys take, and for CPR, I may as well be casting pearls. I'm not going to change his mind, but I don't like miss-statements to stand unchallenged. Oh well.
I think it might be closer than you think.
Go back to your pighole inbreeder. Good God I knew you iu hicks were morons but you take the cake. Stop porking your sister, get a GED and stop burning my fries.
Seriously give the childhood rants a rest. My responses last night were at least alcohol driven, yours are like this all the time.
I shouldn't of responded the way i did, but you are just embarrassing us all.
Hoogolf, don't sweat the hostile few. Some of us have had bitter experiences with our rivals, both in person, and on these boards. Me, not so much, plus I appreciate an articulate different point of view.
What the hell is wrong with you? You would take that clown at IU over Painter? You are one demented dude! Your statistics are based on IU's success from last year. You are exhibiting very short term vision here.
Look, Crean has huge issues with other coaches in the BIG, and with the Indiana high school and AAU programs. He embarrasses the university about once a year. He recruits over kids and discards his upper classmen on a regular basis, so often that the process carries his name. I think he is an embarrassment to IU and to the BIG.
Yes, last year his choke artist point guard finally grew up and managed to win a few games with what was a historically weak BIG schedule. Without this year's run, your statistics (and probably your strange desire to have that clown at Purdue) would not exist. I say hold your water and wait a year. See what happens this season.
No, my statistics are based on their B1G careers not just last year. Did you read my post before replying? Crean has more B1G titles than Painter in less years, period. More Sweet 16 appearances than Painter while in the B1G again in less years, period. Add in a final 4 at Marquette (D Wade or not... he recruited him) and Crean is the superior coach. Not saying I really like him, and I agree he is goofy, but he has had more success, which cannot be argued (at least not logically, although that is often lost here).
What "values"? Crean has more on the court success, and although weird, has no big scandals that I know of unless it's not shaking a hand a few times (which is annoying). Painter has been suspected/known for more of a "scandal" if you want to call it that while having less success on the cour. What are your values and how is Painter superior?
Let me cast the same question to you. Did you read my post before replying? My point as that you need to refrain from the "What have you done for me lately" analysis. Your whole argument falls apart if you remove Crean's last year's statistics. If you leave 2015 out of the numbers, then you have both coaches with 2 Sweet 16's and one BIG each. That amounts to a "So What?" in my mind. Certainly not a justification for your strange position of wanting Crean at Purdue.
It is highly likely Painter will exceed Crean this year, and now that the recruiting and assistant coaches are properly funded, I expect Painter to go on a long term run. He has the skill and capability to be consistently one of the top 3 coaches in the BIG.
I'm talking about what you and I value in our schools basketball program. Based on your posts, you value winning at a top 5 level above all else. I just don't feel that is necessary for me to take pride in the program. Would I like it? Sure. Is it all that matters to me? Not by a long shot. For the most part, I feel Painter has recruited better people than has Crean. When Painter went away from that things went down hill. Crean is not respected by his peers or by the Indiana HS coaches which is a tell tale sign. If you want him, please go root for him.
You are 110% correct in your assessment here. Sadly though, the vocal few on here that are so bent on firing Painter have essentially dug themselves in to an irreversible hole. How they come across on an internet forum is so important to them, that they can't back off their narrative even when presented with irrefutable facts as then they will end up looking foolish on here.Let me cast the same question to you. Did you read my post before replying? My point as that you need to refrain from the "What have you done for me lately" analysis. Your whole argument falls apart if you remove Crean's last year's statistics. If you leave 2015 out of the numbers, then you have both coaches with 2 Sweet 16's and one BIG each. That amounts to a "So What?" in my mind. Certainly not a justification for your strange position of wanting Crean at Purdue.
It is highly likely Painter will exceed Crean this year, and now that the recruiting and assistant coaches are properly funded, I expect Painter to go on a long term run. He has the skill and capability to be consistently one of the top 3 coaches in the BIG.
Rather sad really, I just don't understand why they simply don't drop it and support the team. Painter isn't going anywhere and if he continues to have ranked teams and make progress, no AD in their right mind would fire him anyway.
The sooner the fire painter crowd accepts that hard reality, the better off they will be. Building the program the long for doesn't happen over night, but Painter clearly has the pieces in place to make that a reality. It doesn't matter if it took him a while, what matters is that it is happening and if they can't see it, then too bad for them. They will continue to have a miserable experience while the majority of us enjoy the ride.
I mean you know they have gone off the deep end when they start wanting Crean over Painter. That is just crazy talk.
I'm convinced that if CMP found a cure for cancer, some on here would still complain that it took him too long.
Ahh...another intellectual. It's good to see that you stubbornly stand behind a failed hypothesis. Your boy Chris inherited a team and hasn't screwed it up yet. That's good but hardly solid basis for comparison.
Your correct. I mixed up you and someone else's argument. "Chris" is not relevant to our discussion. But I do normally read at a Junior level.
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