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Just for fun....had Painter used the portal..

First of all, I have zero reason to believe he would have been some horrible cultural fit and neither do you. He spent all four years at Illinois. He wasn't bouncing around. I don't remember any rumors of him being a locker room cancer. I didn't see any play that showed he was selfish or not a team player.

Second of all, the six rebounds and 12 pts a game you have decided are not impressive sure are better than anything Furst or Berg have been doing. So yeah, barring some poor cultural fit which neither of us have any reason to believe would be true, he would have been a very needed addition.

And yes that's assuming there wasn't some crazy cultural barrier which made that unlikely. Dude isn't AJ Storr who clearly would not fit in here.

I'm done though with a ridic back and forth over a hypothetical discussion. Feel free to have the last word.
There's really no back and forth. You're making statements that don't make sense and I'm pointing that out. You're probably new to posting here, I'll cut you some slack and let it go.
 
Next year we will have two interior players that have shown something, Jacobsen and Burgess to go along with what will be our star inside player TKR. I don't think that's a logjam. Furst is gone and I don't think Berg is going to be the answer.

Bringing in an athletic 6-10ish guy who can rebound and play some defense and can play outside in is something that would definitely be value added. There's quite a few out there at the mid major level, I have to believe there's one or two that would jump at a chance to play one season here and would fit just fine.
Heide at the 4 as well. So TKR, Burgess, DJ and Heide. Where does the 6’10 transfer get mins?
 
First of all, I have zero reason to believe he would have been some horrible cultural fit and neither do you. He spent all four years at Illinois. He wasn't bouncing around. I don't remember any rumors of him being a locker room cancer. I didn't see any play that showed he was selfish or not a team player.

Second of all, the six rebounds and 12 pts a game you have decided are not impressive sure are better than anything Furst or Berg have been doing. So yeah, barring some poor cultural fit which neither of us have any reason to believe would be true, he would have been a very needed addition.

And yes that's assuming there wasn't some crazy cultural barrier which made that unlikely. Dude isn't AJ Storr who clearly would not fit in here.

I'm done though with a ridic back and forth over a hypothetical discussion. Feel free to have the last word.
You never saw Hawkins be selfish?? Lolol cmon now!
 
Purdue has had some pretty good individual players on a couple of crap teams, were they losers too?

Teams matter. How someone fits on one team and how that team performs doesn't translate necessarily.

We saw two guys come to Purdue and Tennessee last year. One was a key cog on a national runner up team, the other the top player on an elite right team and currently in the NBA. They both played for the same team and that team didn't exactly play like it.
Domask is in the NBA?
 
Yes, given next year's seniors........I will be disappointed in CMP if he doesn't go for broke, and bring a guy in, that improves even this good team. Every year 50+/- guys are available that, even with our talent, will help our team. I trust his judgement to sort through those ~ 50ish guys & bring the right guy in.
If everyone is back, I just don’t see how one of the top 50 guys get any significant PT. Maybe they are ok with playing 5-15 min/game and competing for a national championship. Ah or maybe they are a bit outside that top 50 but can have multiple years left and play a little next year and then have more of a role then following. Sorry wasn’t thinking like that 😂
 
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So when you said that Hawkins would have been a 'a ridiculously good addition', do you think that would have been true even if he were a poor cultural fit?
Sometimes you can make bad cultural fits work. I mean Jaden Over didn't exactly fit the Purdue culture but he was pretty freaking good. Coleman is and was cheeks.
 
Sometimes you can make bad cultural fits work. I mean Jaden Over didn't exactly fit the Purdue culture but he was pretty freaking good. Coleman is and was cheeks.
Great point, I agree 100%. You could say the same with Carsen Edwards. The juice has to be worth the squeeze. I don't think Coleman is a bad player or a bad kid, but he's not a great fit and isn't in the same stratosphere as JI or Carsen as a player. Add to that the fact that he's a one-year guy at a time when MP is clearly looking to build towards next year and it wouldn't have made sense.
 
Heide at the 4 as well. So TKR, Burgess, DJ and Heide. Where does the 6’10 transfer get mins?
Was going to say the same regarding Heide. I want to know where all these athletic 6'10" guys who can rebound, defend, shoot from the outside and would jump at the chance to play at Purdue are hanging out.
 
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A healthy Jacobsen and most of us aren't second guessing Painter on the Portal for this year or next.
He would have complimented the Big 3 well and most teams would have avoided the lane, making our Defense look much better. Colvin, Cox, Harris, Heide, TKR and Smith are all plus athletes. Colvin and Harris are beginning to show they can drive to the basket when necessary. This team will continue to improve and be a tough out in March. Baylor's NC Team's top 4 scorers were 6'2", 6'3", 6'3", and 6'4". Leading rebounder was 6'5". I think are guards/wings are big enough....
 
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A healthy Jacobsen and most of us aren't second guessing Painter on the Portal for this year or next.
He would have complimented the Big 3 well and most teams would have avoided the lane, making our Defense look much better. Colvin, Cox, Harris, Heide, TKR and Smith are all plus athletes. Colvin and Harris are beginning to show they can drive to the basket when necessary. This team will continue to improve and be a tough out in March. Baylor's NC Team's top 4 scorers were 6'2", 6'3", 6'3", and 6'4". Leading rebounder was 6'5". I think are guards/wings are big enough....
Lotta big boys in the big ten this year…we will be the smaller team now 😂

Houston has gone with a “small” lineup and have been pretty damn good but their defense is crazy. Wish we coulda seen them
In the F4 to see how Sampson would have guarded Zach with his tallest two guys being 6’8 last year and one got injured. shead and cryer vs smith and Loyer woulda been interesting as well.
 
Great point, I agree 100%. You could say the same with Carsen Edwards. The juice has to be worth the squeeze. I don't think Coleman is a bad player or a bad kid, but he's not a great fit and isn't in the same stratosphere as JI or Carsen as a player. Add to that the fact that he's a one-year guy at a time when MP is clearly looking to build towards next year and it wouldn't have made sense.
How did Carsen and Ivey not fit?
 
How did Carsen and Ivey not fit?
Neither played much defense, at least not consistently. I'm not sure either were big 'detail' guys. Painter gave both a lot of leeway.

On the flip side, both had incredible work ethics. Probably better to say that they were unconventional fits for Purdue.
 
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