Criteria for next HC

[purduepat1969]

Also keep in mind, once you take out the $22 million for revenue sharing, you won’t have much of the new revenue left over, so cuts elsewhere might have to be made.

And that becomes even a bigger issue for the ACC and Big 12 who don't have that revenue to begin with...

 

[bonefish1]

We need to make up for the lack of donor/NIL funds with what we have from the university Athletic Department side from our conference revenue payout. Dump it all into facilities, coaches, etc. spend the money you can through the school on football and hope that once the coaches and players get here the NIL money follows eventually.

When you have a bad product on the field it’s going to be very hard to have fans and boosters want to step up and finance big time NIL deals.

I would be perfectly fine if the athletic dept were given access to some of the university endowment funds (which is in the billions).
I know, I know, people will wring their hands over keeping academics and athletics separate. But there's quantifiable evidence that proves that strong athletics, particularly in the revenue sports like FB and BB, increase applications and financial donations to the school.

 

[bonefish1]

We don't need to 'break the bank. Purdue will be getting $80-$100 million in TV revenue this year. Campbell gets $4 million at ISU. We could pay Walters' buyout, pay Campbell's buyout and double his salary and we'd still be flush with cash.

I agree. Money is not, and should not be an issue for Purdue. The reality of today's coaching world is you have to pay to play. If you're not willing to pay, and hope to get lucky, you end up with what we have now.

 

[pboiler18]

I would be perfectly fine if the athletic dept were given access to some of the university endowment funds (which is in the billions).
I know, I know, people will wring their hands over keeping academics and athletics separate. But there's quantifiable evidence that proves that strong athletics, particularly in the revenue sports like FB and BB, increase applications and financial donations to the school.

Problem #1 is that you could give this coach a ton of money and we’d still suck. That’s gotta be fixed first.

From there, money is important but we could do fine making a little go a long way. Especially in a few years when this finally gets legislation and controls around it n

 

[RowdyB]

First. The AD needs to evaluate how he apportions the NIL money he has available. It appears Purdue gives out more money to basketball athletes than other schools do. I’m ok with that, but in doing so, one must realize the football program will suffer.

I’m a firm believer Purdue needs to build a football program similar to the programs at Iowa and Wisconsin. Their funding is similar to Purdue and have proven teams don’t need to be pass happy to be successful in the Big 10. The concept that Purdue has to be passing oriented to be successful is a myth. I know some fans love a passing offense, but more fans are happy just with a win. Look at IU fans today.

The coach has to have experience and a staff and he has to bring recruits with him. This needs to be like a neon Deon signing where the coach will bring 10-20 recruits with him. Because at this stage, a coach arriving in December is going to have a hard time adding recruits.

Essentially a new coach is going to have done his recruiting before he arrives!

We definitely need to improve player development. Our juniors are not showing any progression that they are any better than they were as freshmen. Look at Hartwig. He started as a freshman. He’s a great player. But how much has he improved and developed over his first year?

And we need to stop blaming lack of recruiting time and the previous staff for leaving the cupboard bare. Look at IU and Wisconsin. Their coaches had basically the same amount of recruiting time. And their cupboards were bare.

Finally change the recruiting philosophy and start concentrating on recruiting elite linemen. Purdue needs to stop the pipeline of Indiana linemen going to Iowa. There is a lot of talent inside Indiana that is going to out of state schools.

And lastly rather than matching the salaries other schools are paying, pay the coach what his experience and not his potential dictates! Don’t pay a guy who has zero head coaching experience as if he has won 5 big 10 championships! And don’t pay a coach a salary that you can’t afford to buy out.

On your first point ... since NIL is coming from the fans and other donors, it's more about the AD finding a way to convince them to spend on a sinking ship instead of continued support for a successful program.

I get that FB will pay the bills, but it's hard to convince those that do pitch in on NIL that it's a valuable investment for what is essentially their entertainment dollars. It's much easier to pony up for basketball, especially when you're only talking about dishing out top $ for maybe a half dozen players on the roster each year. Also helps that Painter has developed the culture he has where the players accept that they have to produce to earn NIL $ at that level.

As for moving away from a more offensive minded approach, haven't we already gone down that road before? It can be done, but it's not going to be something that can be established in a year or two. Unfortunately that's about all new coaches have in today's environment with NIL and unfettered transfers.

I definitely agree with hiring someone that will bring a successful staff with him. That could be someone from a mid-major for all I care, as long as they keep the majority of those around that got them to that point, and supplement any openings with proven assistant coaches or coordinators.

Same with matching the salary to experience. Obviously they expect to make more if they're moving up to the P5 level, but let's not put them in the middle of B1G salaries out of the gate. Re-evaluate after year two, and increase if needed. Obviously this changes if we're pulling someone from a successful P4 program, but not sure that's something Purdue's willing or able to do at this point.

 

[bonefish1]

On your first point ... since NIL is coming from the fans and other donors, it's more about the AD finding a way to convince them to spend on a sinking ship instead of continued support for a successful program.

I get that FB will pay the bills, but it's hard to convince those that do pitch in on NIL that it's a valuable investment for what is essentially their entertainment dollars. It's much easier to pony up for basketball, especially when you're only talking about dishing out top $ for maybe a half dozen players on the roster each year. Also helps that Painter has developed the culture he has where the players accept that they have to produce to earn NIL $ at that level.

As for moving away from a more offensive minded approach, haven't we already gone down that road before? It can be done, but it's not going to be something that can be established in a year or two. Unfortunately that's about all new coaches have in today's environment with NIL and unfettered transfers.

I definitely agree with hiring someone that will bring a successful staff with him. That could be someone from a mid-major for all I care, as long as they keep the majority of those around that got them to that point, and supplement any openings with proven assistant coaches or coordinators.

Same with matching the salary to experience. Obviously they expect to make more if they're moving up to the P5 level, but let's not put them in the middle of B1G salaries out of the gate. Re-evaluate after year two, and increase if needed. Obviously this changes if we're pulling someone from a successful P4 program, but not sure that's something Purdue's willing or able to do at this point.

Still not sure why the general fan cares how much we pay a coach. Whether we pay a guy $4M or $8M isnt' going to impact the fan. Won't even impact ticket prices. Purdue has plenty of money. Morgan Burke, who only cared about expense control, isn't running the ship any longer. You're only going to attract a big name or proven record if you're willing to pay for it.

 

[Dreambig74]

So $22M for revenue sharing, can i assume that is for the players? So they need NIL on top of that? What am i missing?