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Wow, new coach brings 13 players and 10 start, bundle and win Flo!.

Add water and stir and you have a team!

Maybe we can find Bundle for next year !
 
I dunno. Maybe bundle a new coach with 13 new players and petition the NCAA for the weakest schedule in a generation? Talk about catching lightning in a bottle.

To date, the cumulative record of IU's opponents is 36-46. Only 2 of the 10 teams they've played have a winning record. Both Washington and Nebraska are 5-4. Yep. That's it, folks. I'm not doubting that they have a good team, but they have built success upon a ridiculously flimsy schedule.

We'll see next week whether they're for real of if this is just a house of cards. Go Buckeyes!

Alright, no more football talk. It's basketball season...
 
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I dunno. Maybe bundle a new coach with 13 new players and petition the NCAA for the weakest schedule in a generation? Talk about catching lightning in a bottle.

To date, the cumulative record of IU's opponents is 36-46. Only 2 of the 10 teams they've played have a winning record. Both Washington and Nebraska are 5-4. Yep. That's it, folks. I'm not doubting that they have a good team, but they have built success upon a ridiculously flimsy schedule.

We'll see next week whether they're for real of if this is just a house of cards. Go Buckeyes!

Alright, no more football talk. It's basketball season...
Indiana can't really help it that Michigan ended up being mediocre after starting out Top 10. Can't help that Nebraska has fallen off since getting destroyed in Bloomington. Can't it that UCLA started the year off so poorly. Playing schedule put in front of us.
 
Indiana can't really help it that Michigan ended up being mediocre after starting out Top 10. Can't help that Nebraska has fallen off since getting destroyed in Bloomington. Can't it that UCLA started the year off so poorly. Playing schedule put in front of us.
No indiana cancelled the Louisville road game this year. That might bite them if they lose bad to Ohio state and the voters add a 2nd acc or big 12 team instead of a 4th big ten team who beat no one all year.
 
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No indiana cancelled the Louisville road game this year. That might bite them if they lose bad to Ohio state and the voters add a 2nd acc or big 12 team instead of a 4th big ten team who beat no one all year.
Itll depend on what happens in conference championship games. BYU goes undefeated and loses to Colorado, then I think Colorado steals a spot. Clemson could do the same. But Colorado and Clemson won't get in at this point over a 1 loss Indiana as an at large.
 
Itll depend on what happens in conference championship games. BYU goes undefeated and loses to Colorado, then I think Colorado steals a spot. Clemson could do the same. But Colorado and Clemson won't get in at this point over a 1 loss Indiana as an at large.
It will also depend on how bad they lose. If OSU smokes indiana they won’t take indiana over a one loss BYU who goes undefeated in regular season and plays a close game In championship game. BYU smoked a good k-state team, beat SMU on road, and would beat a good Arizona state if they win next weekend. BYU will be locked in if they win out their regular season. Indianas best win is ucla on road maybe? You are also writing for Miami.

Just to reiterate there are 7 at large teams and Notre dame will get one and big ten already has two locked up if Ohio state beats indiana. The SEC likely have 3 locked up if Indiana loses. That leaves one spot for Miami/SMU/Clemson, indiana, or Colorado.

Bottom line I think indiana needs to beat osu (27% chance) or needs combination of BYU beating colorado in big12 game and SMU beating clemson or Miami in ACC game. I’d say they have less than 50% chance of going to playoffs. Need a lot to happen when you don’t beat anyone.
 
I don't see any way IU doesn't make the playoffs. Even if OSU thumps them, they'll be 11-1 (no way we beat them) and an 11-1 power conference team will make the playoffs. Georgia and Miami losing last week helped and more top 10 teams will lose.

At this point, I think there is a better than 50/50 chance that the B1G gets 4 teams in the playoffs.
 
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It will also depend on how bad they lose. If OSU smokes indiana they won’t take indiana over a one loss BYU who goes undefeated in regular season and plays a close game In championship game. BYU smoked a good k-state team, beat SMU on road, and would beat a good Arizona state if they win next weekend. BYU will be locked in if they win out their regular season. Indianas best win is ucla on road maybe? You are also writing for Miami.

Just to reiterate there are 7 at large teams and Notre dame will get one and big ten already has two locked up if Ohio state beats indiana. The SEC likely have 3 locked up if Indiana loses. That leaves one spot for Miami/SMU/Clemson, indiana, or Colorado.

Bottom line I think indiana needs to beat osu (27% chance) or needs combination of BYU beating colorado in big12 game and SMU beating clemson or Miami in ACC game. I’d say they have less than 50% chance of going to playoffs. Need a lot to happen when you don’t beat anyone.
Indiana just needs a respectable loss. If they lose like by 30 pts that might give pause. But if they lose like 35-21 then they are probably in.

This is their year. I don't know that it's any more long term than any of the other of handful of seasons where they've surprised although it's certainly the best version they've had.

That schedule was ridiculously easy though.
 
I don't see any way IU doesn't make the playoffs. Even if OSU thumps them, they'll be 11-1 (no way we beat them) and an 11-1 power conference team will make the playoffs. Georgia and Miami losing last week helped and more top 10 teams will lose.

At this point, I think there is a better than 50/50 chance that the B1G gets 4 teams in the playoffs.
Things just got really weird for this, and I think the whole thing is fascinating. I think if they get smoked they might be in trouble, obviously depending on what everyone else does.

Not saying it will necessarily come to this, but hypothetically, how do you rank the following? This assumes OSU, Oregon, Penn St, Alabama, BYU, Boise, Miami are in. I'm giving Miami the ACC title over SMU, Alabama the SEC title over A&M, A&M beating Texas, Georgia beating Tennessee.

11-1 Indiana
11-1 ND
10-2 Georgia
10-2 Ole Miss
11-2 SMU (that makes ACC CG)
10-2 Tennessee
10-2 Texas
10-3 A&M

Note that this week the rankings will be interesting because I expect SMU to be out of the Top 12, but be an AQ because they currently lead the ACC. Which moves Boise into a Top 4 seed, along with BYU, Oregon and Texas. And whoever gets ranked 12 is actually out. Notre Dame? Miami?
 
I don't see any way IU doesn't make the playoffs. Even if OSU thumps them, they'll be 11-1 (no way we beat them) and an 11-1 power conference team will make the playoffs. Georgia and Miami losing last week helped and more top 10 teams will lose.

At this point, I think there is a better than 50/50 chance that the B1G gets 4 teams in the playoffs.
Additional reasons why you are right: If Indiana loses to OSU then they won't play in the B1G championship game, which guarantees them not getting a second loss.

Many of the teams in the playoff conversation with one or two losses either play each other or have a tougher additional game;
  • One loss Tennessee plays at two loss Georgia,
  • One loss Texas plays at two loss A&M. If A& M wins Texas will be two losses with a best win of a three point win over Vandy. If Texas wins then A&M will be a three loss team. Either way, one of them is eliminated.
  • One loss Penn St at Minnesota
  • One loss ND plays at undefeated Army
  • #18 two loss Pitt with a best win of Cincinnati plays two loss #23 Clemson with a best win of NC State
  • Either Miami or SMU will get second loss in their conference championship game. Miami's best win is over Louisville, SMU's is Pitt.
  • #20 two loss Colorado likely plays BYU in the conference championship game
and so on. IU's die is cast as long as they beat Purdue and stay within reasonable distance of OSU (any loss of less than 30 would probably be fine). The current odds calculator slots as IU the second most likely team to make the college football playoffs, behind only undefeated Oregon.
 
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Additional reasons why you are right: If Indiana loses to OSU then they won't play in the B1G championship game, which guarantees them not getting a second loss.

Many of the teams in the playoff conversation with one or two losses either play each other or have a tougher additional game;
  • One loss Tennessee plays at two loss Georgia,
  • One loss Texas plays at two loss A&M,
  • One loss Penn St at Minnesota
  • One loss ND plays at undefeated Army
  • #18 Pitt plays #23 Clemson
  • Either Miami or SMU will get second loss in their conference championship game
  • #20 two loss Colorado likely plays BYU in the conference championship game
and so on.
Wait a minute....Indiana still has to play Purdue......

Minnesota shouldn't concern Penn State, but they have to show up like they did last week.
ND/Army is neutral technically at Yankee Stadium.
Pitt and Clemson need a bunch of help. Miami has the tiebreaker over Clemson because of Louisville common opponent.
Colorado is an interesting party spoiler.
 
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Indiana just needs a respectable loss. If they lose like by 30 pts that might give pause. But if they lose like 35-21 then they are probably in.

This is their year. I don't know that it's any more long term than any of the other of handful of seasons where they've surprised although it's certainly the best version they've had.

That schedule was ridiculously easy though.
They don’t have a respectable win though. This is just like basketball where teams get burned by the committee for no signature wins, they just win all the games they are supposed to. Same with football how many times have college football teams gone undefeated and missed the 4 team playoffs and everyone says well you should have scheduled someone good. Now we have 12 team playoffs and now the 1 loss teams are going to belly ache about the same.
 
They don’t have a respectable win though. This is just like basketball where teams get burned by the committee for no signature wins, they just win all the games they are supposed to. Same with football how many times have college football teams gone undefeated and missed the 4 team playoffs and everyone says well you should have scheduled someone good. Now we have 12 team playoffs and now the 1 loss teams are going to belly ache about the same.
And let's face it, if they miss, it will be partially due to brand recognition. Because there are still humans doing it. You think if Indiana has a close resume to a Penn State or a Georgia that they'd get in? Not a chance. Part of that is also a function of how the polls work, where even if they don't technically matter, they're inherently in the minds of the committee members. If there were no polls until last week, Indiana might be #3 instead of #5. And that difference could be huge in the end.
 
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And let's face it, if they miss, it will be partially due to brand recognition. Because there are still humans doing it. You think if Indiana has a close resume to a Penn State or a Georgia that they'd get in? Not a chance. Part of that is also a function of how the polls work, where even if they don't technically matter, they're inherently in the minds of the committee members. If there were no polls until last week, Indiana might be #3 instead of #5. And that difference could be huge in the end.
Completely agree. And I was shocked that the AP and Coaches polls have them ahead of Miami, Georgia, Tennessee, and ND this week.
 
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