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IU at least Co-B1G Champs

My friend, why exactly do you think so many IU fans want Tom Crean fired (me included)?

Because he hasn't gotten beyond the Sweet 16 in 7 years at IU, that's why.

Winning the B1G is a fine accomplishment. It's the goal, obviously, during conference play.

At IU, winning the B1G is important. Winning in the NCAA's is far more important.

That answer your question?
You make no sense... In this post you say you want Crean fired... Yet in the post above you said you don't know why Purdue fans are excited for him to get an extension.... Our reasons are the same.
 
You make no sense... In this post you say you want Crean fired... Yet in the post above you said you don't know why Purdue fans are excited for him to get an extension.... Our reasons are the same.

...um.....maybe because you have Matt Painter and Crean has finished higher than Painter in the B1G 4 out of the last 5 years, winning 2 B1G titles (to zero during that time for Painter) in the same time span? Crean's recruiting classes are routinely higher ranked and nearly every season he lands a 5 star.

I want Crean fired because his level of success so far (we'll see what happens the rest of this season) hasn't been good enough in the NCAA tourney, the most important time of year for college basketball.

I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.
 
You're an angry dude.

The NCAA tourney is the most important time for college basketball. I've enjoyed watching IU win the whole thing 3 times during my time on this planet. Greatest feeling ever when your team wins it all.

Winning the B1G is, as I have said many times to you, a fine accomplishment. Keady did a fine job in that regard. He was one helluva coach, obviously.

His Purdue teams were always fun to watch.
Lol.. clearly reading comprehension is new to you. Why on earth would I be "angry" over something I don't even remotely care about?

So maybe it isn't selective memory, you're just lacking the comprehension skills. But keep on posting here thinking you aren't obsessed with us. I'm done responding to you since you have nothing of substance to add.
 
...um.....maybe because you have Matt Painter and Crean has finished higher than Painter in the B1G 4 out of the last 5 years, winning 2 B1G titles (to zero during that time for Painter) in the same time span? Crean's recruiting classes are routinely higher ranked and nearly every season he lands a 5 star.

I want Crean fired because his level of success so far (we'll see what happens the rest of this season) hasn't been good enough in the NCAA tourney, the most important time of year for college basketball.

I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.
CMP being at Purdue has nothing to do with Crean at IU. I want Gross to stay at Illinois also.... Same reason, he's horrible. As I said earlier, I'm not a CMP fan, I'd love for Purdue to make a change, but if you think Crean is any better than CMP, then we will have to agree to disagree. CMP has at least won a BTT, which give me some tourney hope. IU fans only hold onto the fact that he took Marquette to the FF with D Wade.
 
CMP being at Purdue has nothing to do with Crean at IU. I want Gross to stay at Illinois also.... Same reason, he's horrible. As I said earlier, I'm not a CMP fan, I'd love for Purude to make a change, but if you think Crean is any better than CMP, then we will have to agree to disagree. CMP has at least won a BTT, which give me some tourney hope. IU fans only hold onto the fact that he took Marquette to the FF with D Wade.

I think that's pretty much my entire point: Painter is no better than Crean and he actually might be worse.

The results, at least the last 5 years, seem to point to that conclusion.

...and yes, it's been awhile for sure but Crean has been to a Final Four. Maybe he can catch lightning in a bottle again someday. Painter is still trying to add that to his resume.

But make no mistake about Crean. If he has another early exit from the tourney, plenty of IU fans are going to be ultra-pissed (me included.)
 
I think that's pretty much my entire point: Painter is no better than Crean and he actually might be worse.

The results, at least the last 5 years, seem to point to that conclusion.

...and yes, it's been awhile for sure but Crean has been to a Final Four. Maybe he can catch lightning in a bottle again someday. Painter is still trying to add that to his resume.

But make no mistake about Crean. If he has another early exit from the tourney, plenty of IU fans are going to be ultra-pissed (me included.)

I'm not a Painter fan but I didn't necessarily believe this in the past. Seeing Crean get IU to play this well this year after losing a 5 star player (Say what you want, Blackmon is extremely talented) is truly an excellent job of coaching.
 
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If the gold standard for the IU coach today is this year's team then the rest of the league has already won. I mean, they've had a good year but their schedule is the reason they are going to win the regular season title which they may not have even done if James Blackmon hadn't got hurt. It would be one thing if Crean had seen Blackmon's lack of effort on defense was killing the team and benched him but the only reason he isn't playing is because of the injury. Good fortune for Crean and IU on both the Blackmon injury and the schedule. I wouldn't apologize for it if I were an IU fan but I wouldn't boast about it either. Things might look very different in a couple of weeks.
 
I do not think that winning the "regular" Big Ten Title means today what it meant in the past because of [1] the changes in schedule [not playing every other team twice] and [2] the Big Ten tournament. IMO winning the tournament is winning the Big Ten Title. I thought this when this season started with the uneven schedules and I think it now.
 
I do not think that winning the "regular" Big Ten Title means today what it meant in the past because of [1] the changes in schedule [not playing every other team twice] and [2] the Big Ten tournament. IMO winning the tournament is winning the Big Ten Title. I thought this when this season started with the uneven schedules and I think it now.
Probably didn't think that when Purdue last won the big ten
 
I think I either did not phrase my post correctly or you misunderstood. I am trying to say that I think there is a deliberate attempt to make the tournament more important and the regular season less important. And I personally think it is working. Perhaps no one else thinks this, in which case, chalk it up to my paranoia.
 
It is ironic and strange to see Purdue fans, with Matt Painter as their coach, crowing about how bad Tom Crean is (and I say this as someone who is NOT a Crean fan.)

Kinda reminds of that Seinfeld episode where that girl catches Jerry's comedy act and breaks up with him because, she says; "I can't date someone if I don't respect what they do". Jerry responds with; "But you're a cashier!"

Just weird.
Tom Crean is bad. Wait to you see what the slumping Hawkeyes put on IU on Tuesday. Dakich all crap IU posts will see very soon
 
Not really, should be a nice extension in his future. I know a lot of IU fans that would have preferred to have not won the regular season...it doesn't have the same meaning with the unbalanced schedule, but he should parlay it into COY and an extension, which may be a win for the rest of the league.

IU fans like that are stupid. Great recruiting class this year and next year. Morgan and OG have turned IU'S mentality around with their defensive versatility. Indiana loses good shooters but if Bryant stays will be very good next year.
 
I'm not a Painter fan but I didn't necessarily believe this in the past. Seeing Crean get IU to play this well this year after losing a 5 star player (Say what you want, Blackmon is extremely talented) is truly an excellent job of coaching.
I knew it! I was pretty much already starting to think you were a IU fan posing as a Boiler and this pretty much seals the deal. You were far to critical of Painter for minor and stupid things that didn't exist yet have been far too complimentary of crean. Something no true Boiler would ever do in a million years and when you string it together with everything else on here you say, it is now very clear you're a iu fan in sheep's clothing.

I'll give you credit, it was the longest and most methodical trolling on here to date, but you slipped up and have been exposed. Now go back to peegs you trailer troll and take all your circlejerking iu boyfriends with you.
 
I do not think that winning the "regular" Big Ten Title means today what it meant in the past because of [1] the changes in schedule [not playing every other team twice] and [2] the Big Ten tournament. IMO winning the tournament is winning the Big Ten Title. I thought this when this season started with the uneven schedules and I think it now.
It doesn't mean squat anymore because of all the things you mention. It's more of a nice to have but lacks any real meaning like it did when you had to play each team twice. That is why it won't help iu's seeeding and if we do well in the tourney we will still should get a better seeding in the NCAA's than iu.
 
Hey BBG...15000 post and you say your life has more meaning to care about IU winning or losing????...When do you have time to do anything but POST???? Have a job
 
Boilermaker logic:

"Winning the B1G really doesn't mean anything, anymore."

"Purdue rulez....look at all those B1G championships we won bfore 1940!!!1!!!"
 
Crean should get COY. Gard has done a nice job, but with a team Bo built. If you don't think Crean will try for and get and extension, your crazy. Scholarships are 4 years out, you have to have at least 5 years to sell a kid. If IU gave Wilson an extension beating up on nobody for 6 wins, Crean hit the lottery.

IU basketball and IU football are totally different animals. Wilson would have been down to three years left on his deal. While recognizing that IU football is still mediocre, Wilson has some nice things going on in terms of scheme, overall talent, and depth.

Crean could certainly "try to get an extension" I'm willing to bet $100 payable to a charity of yours / my choice that there's no extension this year. Crean got himself off the hot seat for another year. The AD and the BOT are well aware that one of the biggest issues with Crean right now in the eyes of the alumni, the major donors, and the fan base in general is lack of sustainability. If IU does well next season, there's probably another extension in the cards, sigh.

Look at Wisky when Bo was still coaching them. Gard has given major minutes to guys that weren't getting any PT under Bo and it's worked out nicely for them. Gard made some adjustments to the offense. COY stuff without a doubt.
 
Hey BBG...15000 post and you say your life has more meaning to care about IU winning or losing????...When do you have time to do anything but POST???? Have a job
I see you're not good at math either.You do realize that count started nearly 15 years ago right?

You trolls make me laugh, you really do. The things you come up with is so weak all you can do is laugh.
 
Boilermaker logic:

"Winning the B1G really doesn't mean anything, anymore."

"Purdue rulez....look at all those B1G championships we won bfore 1940!!!1!!!"
Thats it? Your atempt to flame me is with this crap? Get back in your basement before your mom finds you on her computer there little girl.
 
Thats it? Your atempt to flame me is with this crap? Get back in your basement before your mom finds you on her computer there little girl.

Sorry---I'm a bit conflicted.

Normally, I would be flaming other IU posters on Peegs, since most people there are Crean haters. But I gave up Peegs for Lent.

Flaming Boilermakers just isn't as inspiring, I guess.
 
That's just so sad.

Sad because you've never had the opportunity to experience it? I believe that.

Oh, if you're trying the BS strawman "you must not have much going on in your life", you know exactly what I mean. It's the best feeling a sports fan can experience. Obviously there's a whole lot more important things in life, but we're on a sports message board here, discussing sports.

Watching IU win those 3 nattys was a TON OF FUN, my man!
 
Dude, your predictions have been hysterical.

Keep them coming, please!
what were your predictions? I bet mine have come closer than yours by a long shot. First of all, we had a terrible call with the goal-tending, then Yogi got lucky and went off on lowly Illinois....i predicted that Williams would have a crap game , BAM! I also predicted that IU will lay an egg @IOWA, and we both know that IS going to happen Iowa 85 Indiana 66. Who in their right mind does not think that ticked off IOWA won't slam the Hoosiers tomorrow night. NO-ONE, that's who!!! It's senior night to boot. Then they come home to get schooled by Maryland and end their bogus B1G with a sister-kisser (tie for big ten). Crean will have a parade in Bloomington for the share of the B1G title and you are invited to ride your Harley in it. Please get started on your float and your theme will be "IUs Hollow B1G Championships", listing the last 4 B1G championships courtesy of IU. OK, back to more important predictions, Purdue...... We've got the B1G championship tourney in the bag (Mark my words and I'll eat tons of crow if I'm wrong -- like I have done before when I am incorrect on a pick). Next, the seeding we will get in the big dance will be two to three above IU (remember, IU will drop after big-time losses to @IOWA and MARYLAND). By the way, the Maryland score will be Maryland 81 Indiana 69. Come back to this post after both of these games conclude and put the feather in my cap for my spot-on predictions. Remember, there are still other teams that can end up with a tie for the B1G championship other than IOWA. So we could see three way ties, four way ties, etc. (if my math is not failing me). So you see, my predictions have been hysterical, Hoosier hysterical. Thanks for watching!!!!
 
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Oh, I'll be back here to discuss your brilliant predictions, honey!

You can count on that!

:)
i'm looking forward to that Mr. Burress. Also, keep in mind that you need to drop a few predictions for the IU vs. IOWA and IU vs. Maryland games, let's go head to head and see who wins. Make sure you're close , we don't want any more self-inflicted wounds.
 
Either "honey_badger" is an IU troll that the mods here have not taken out, or honey_badger is the best reason for an IU fan to read this board.

Either way ... great stuff!
 
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i assumed he was an iu troll at first... like me.... but im not sure he is
not a troll. never been a troll. but i have always been and have never wavered from my black and gold fandom. football, basketball, baseball are the 3 I follow the closest. I don't like IU, but I try to be measured with my passion but yes, I sometimes get carried away and who doesn't, It's basketball in Indiana.
 
honey badger is a hysterical...

and i thought i was embarrassing to my fanbase.... yikes
Being embarrassing is subjective. I doubt you are. At least I attempt to predict outcomes and, for the most part, have had some success in the last 4 years.
 
I do not think that winning the "regular" Big Ten Title means today what it meant in the past because of [1] the changes in schedule [not playing every other team twice] and [2] the Big Ten tournament. IMO winning the tournament is winning the Big Ten Title. I thought this when this season started with the uneven schedules and I think it now.

I think the regular season title means more to me than the tournament, but I can see how you come to that conclusion. My thought is that the tourney allows for anyone to win and not necessarily a top team. If the tourney was limited to the top 4/6 teams it might mean more. What if Rutgers or Minnesota win the tournament, do we really take them seriously as the Big Ten Champs?
 
First: Unqualified congratulations to IU! You guys pulled it off. Something I and others did not envision at the start of the year. You did it by playing hard, beating the better teams, and just finding ways to win. We all wanted the Indiana-Purdue rivalry to heat up up, which doesn't happen unless IU becomes really good. Now we have our bar set for next year, and I won't be surprised if we run over IU in the B IGT.

I figured MSU, Maryland, and Purdue to be the top 3 strongest teams in the BIG. Some of the talking heads pegged Indiana, certainly, but after the Duke game, I thought they would fold in the BIG season. Eating crow as I type.

Bryant played well enough for a freshman, but it was the play of the Yogi, OG, and RoJo that made the difference. They played defense pretty well, and shot the hell out of the basket in most games.

With the highest recruiting budget in the BIG, IU's recruiting results are finally showing. Hopefully this may prompt Purdue's administration to pump our budget a bit. It was this constraint that drove our team to the bottom of the BIG a couple years back. You got to recruit big to win BIG!

:cool:
 
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