Indiana Gov. Holcomb signs permitless carry bill
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There is no background check if Uncle John wants to give or sell you his gun. Plus no safery training.
No background check if stolen either. If I wanted to murder someone I would pass the background check and could do it. They do nothing except create a database on the citizens of who has guns and there are more guns than people.
I personally don't advocate open carry because if a bad guy saw you open carrying you would be the first hit. You see bad guys don't like good guys with guns.
Scared of those black white nationalists like NYC has?Gov. Holcomb has been a decent dude. However, you conservatives explain to me how is this bill any good? You guys can't love guns that much. Police officers ought to be pissed about this bill.
Indiana eliminates permit requirement for carrying a handgun in public
Hoosier adults age 18 and up not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm will be entitled to carry a handgun in public without needing to obtain a state permit, beginningwww.nwitimes.com
Somebody who buys guns and illegally resells them to gang members is not a law abiding citizen. They are a felon. Or in many cases a family member.
Want to decrease gun violence in Chicago tell Kim Foxx to prosecute violent felons and tell Tim Evans to tell his judges to sentence violent felons.
I've owned guns for 61 years. Never sold a gun via a "straw purchase". Never done a deal with a criminal. I know how to safely use and store my guns. Basically you're full of shit.This law is one of the most ridiculous laws I ever heard of. Of course you gun nuts are happy about this. Law abiding citizens are where a lot of the criminals go to to get these guns during these "straw" purchases People with clean records buying these guns at gun shows and then selling to the gang members. Chicago criminals buy these guns in Indiana. Now with this law it will be even easier. The NRA and gun manufacturers must be tickled to death about this law.
The police ain't diggin this bill.
Indiana lawmakers, police differ on gun permit bill
"I think that bills like this make the job of law enforcement more dangerous than it already is," Madison County Sheriff Scott Mellinger said.www.wthr.com
I appreciate your concern to limit gun ownership to law abiding and responsible people. I don’t want felons, or crazies, or drug addicts to own guns. I am sure you agree.
And I can assume that you agree that people who lie about these things in federal background check forms should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. Right? Because guns should not be in the hands of non-law abiding and/or dangerous people.
Can I get an Amen?
Lol...Liberal Gov Holcomb has been one of the worst Govs in history.....
1. Uneeded Freedom restrictions during Covid.
2. Some of the highest tax raises in history.
3. Phony imposter D in R clothes.....
What does that have to do with my point? They're still getting the guns illegally. And those buying guns and reselling them to Illinois residents are not "law abiding".
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You clearly don't understand current gun laws. Concealed carry permits have nothing to do with obtaining a gun, legally or illegally. You really need to educate yourself before you post about a topic.
I'm a supporter of background checks and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and those with severe mental issues. But I am a supporter of permitless concealed carry. If you legally qualify to own a gun, there should be no restrictions on carrying it.
You don’t see any potentt trying issues with permitless carry when it comes to law enforcement? Or, if someone buys a gun from Joe Blow, he now has an option to not get a permit and register the weapon. Then where is the background check in that scenario?
How ironic that a pedo lover like you focuses on something like small genitalia.
Yeah because the criminals in chicago all have carry permits right? It amazes me at how singularly stupid you are when it comes to this. I mean you're at all new levels with it.
A permit doesn't stop someone, like a felon, who wants a gun to get one. Chicago is a perfect example because those gang members and all their shootings sure aren't using legally obtained guns.
You still have to go through a background check to buy the gun in the first place so only people wishing to circumvent the process will avoid that. Just like they do now. The only thing this does is allow responsible law abiding citizens to exorcise their constitutional right to bear arms.
You seriously aren't this close minded and moronic are you? I usually just troll you with those type of comments, but it's becoming more and more apparent you just are not that smart and blind and certainly not black.
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Gov. Holcomb has been a decent dude. However, you conservatives explain to me how is this bill any good? You guys can't love guns that much. Police officers ought to be pissed about this bill.
Indiana eliminates permit requirement for carrying a handgun in public
Hoosier adults age 18 and up not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm will be entitled to carry a handgun in public without needing to obtain a state permit, beginning
Has anything officially been released that his motives were based on "racist black nationalism" or are you just calling him that because he is black and you are white? Just curious.. have NOT seen official motives. Maybe EVERYONE should carry a gun. That would work well, huh.
You are an N of 1. You only speak for yourself. There are TONS of dishonest people out there. Just watch the news, every day.
Yeah they either have mental issues, are criminals or in the case of liberals, both.
You should be more worried about what's happening in Chicago, NY, Indianapolis, and Los Angeles than you are about permitless carry. Anyone who commits a crime isn't going to follow the law, specifically existing gun laws.. I've already provided you data to show that. You just saw that play out in Sacramento. Yet you refuse to acknowledge it and continue harping on a law that will have zero impact on crime.
Cops ain’t on board with this. Do you see the potential issue when it comes to law enforcement?
Some cops aren't. You certainly do not speak for all of them because I know several that are. The police are a reactive entity not, pro active.
The 23 states that already have this have had no reported issues. Why? because the people that this applies to would have gone through the process to get a permit or in my case have one already. The criminals were already by passing the entire process in the first place.
There is a degree of neurosis inside all liberals as shown for a desire to control from cradle to grave and actually prior to the cradle since they typically desire the blob control of abortions, rather than giving it up to the states to decide, which would be much closer to the people…but also less control of others. However, there are some afflicted with neurosis that should not be denied gun ownership just due to their political leanings. Others have real problems separating real from unreal and that is more of a problem today than in the past.
Many years ago, there was a concern of the effects upon society by violence on television. The thought was that those capable of distinguishing what is real and what is not, would not be affected. However, those with mental illness could be afflicted with reality compromised. When untruths are presented by politicians and various media making people think they are victims, whole groups through the multiple areas of Intersectionality soon start to linger deeper into the untruths building resentment and anger in a distorted view of reality moving that person or “groups” into a danger zone for society. The last couple of years have added a several extra blocks higher for that structure.
Frank Robert James was obviously one of those people. This racist, hate crime terrorist will probably not be charged as such since it doesn’t fit the narrative of what is desired to be promoted and so it won’t get the attention it should as to not conflict with the lemmings jumbled mindset…even though his comments on Facebook and such describe his hate for those “white mother F&*^$%#. Like inflations out of control and the destruction of the economy in such a short time, Biden and his mouth pieces built this act as well.
Yes there are plenty of reports out there, you just have to look somewhere other than CNN or MSNBC to get the facts. And no, I don’t say that because of my skin color (which you don’t know) or because of his, but mostly just a jab at BNI, who has stated before that essentially racism is a one way street, which it obviously is not.
Most the cops I encountered agree with your experience. Perhaps it is because we live where there are more good people than bad? Good people trust the majority of other good people. Bad people do not as they project on to them what they are capable. I wish the lasw went farther into a person's right to defend not only his life, but his property as well...
The last part of your statement is defined by the state. For example, the castle doctrine. If someone threatens you, your family, house, etc. You can defend yourself and Indiana is a Castle Doctrine state.
Black nationalist? He is no black nationalist. You conveniently left out that he was against everyone, whites, blacks, Jews, Latinos. He said that people of color are a bunch of turds in a toilet. Said that we need more racial profiling. Said that black women should be forcibly sterilized. This dude is crazier than cat doo doo.
The poor little libs are upset that Elon is buying Twitter. They’re a little sensitive today
Probably the same place that made you think that Italian satellites were changing votes and Mike Lindell had any evidence whatsoever of election fraud. LOL.
I got that. It is the property that I also want to protect as well, even if not life threatening. People stealing and then turning their back on you knowing you are in trouble for defending your property should be dealt with aggressively. Nobody has the right to you or your property. You can't shoot a person in the back if he is stealing your car, running out the house after stealing your things or raping your wife and children and considered not an immediate threat to you.
Once the person that vilolates you in some manner and no longer is perceived by the courts as an immediate threat is shot you are in trouble. You never asked to be violated, but you are punished if shooting the person that ran from the scene and no longer a threat. Look at the game of "knock out" a few years ago where it was a game for those participants to attack total strangers by blindsiding them and trying to knock them out. Innocent people that may have lost teeth, fractured jaws, broken nose all in trouble if they shot the SOBs and so again, the good guy is punished either legally or possible requiring major surgeries and expenses. How long would that have went on had people just shot a few of them and people knew that was a legitimate defense?
Castle doctrine though goes right to your statement in regards to harming your family. No, can't shoot them in the back as they are running away, but in the act of harm? Yes. And really if you are out in public and see it happening you can defend the other person being harmed.
I get what you are saying however and I researched the crap out of this when I first started carrying so I would know my rights. And here is something else to add, if you shoot you don't shoot to maim or just injure because then you set yourself up for litigation.
No one is looking to just turn things in to the old west, but with as many lunatic lefties that there are in the world, a person should protect themselves.
This guy is a nut and hates everyone even blacks. Bigot, prejudice perhaps. He and other blacks and minorities do not control the housing, banking, education entities, employment etc. Therefore not a racist by definition.
Please enlighten us with what source you pulled that definition from.
Racism or to be a racist involves power and control from one group of people over another. The term racist is often used loosely to describe individuals. If you want to call this fool and others like him a racist, that is fine. I don't have too much issue with it, even though he has said some crazy stuff about black people also. Reason why I hate to label him as a racist. He seems like a self hater as well. I just want to set the record straight to what true racism is. This fool seems to be more of an individualist. This guy dances to the beat of another drum. I wouldn't lump him as being a black nationalist as I doubt that he belongs to any organization.
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