There's no question about that. There are quite a few people around the country who think it was a fluke that we beat Duke. I would point out that was the second time we beat Duke in 17 days, and neither game was a nail-biter that went down to the final possession. I'm not sure how much of a fluke that was, or more that our players are making better decisions and not beating themselves like they did earlier in the season.
I'm actually glad it's NC State
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There's no question about that. There are quite a few people around the country who think it was a fluke that we beat Duke. I would point out that was the second time we beat Duke in 17 days, and neither game was a nail-biter that went down to the final possession. I'm not sure how much of a fluke that was, or more that our players are making better decisions and not beating themselves like they did earlier in the season.
FWIW-OT. My daughter lives north of Raleigh and west of Wake (inside the research triangle) . Moved there last summer and loves it and I think I could go for the climate.
I agree. And you're are more likely to expend the energy required for good defense in the tournament than through the long season. Keady and Painter have done a good job over the years getting that effort from players even during the season. But some teams seem to turn it on in the tournament. Doesn't always work out, though.
There's merit to teams making changes and becoming better. Truth with NC ST is probably somewhere between the high they've been on and how they were for the first two third of the season.
I would rather have played Duke than you guys for sure. Houston would have waxed them with Shead.
It's not just the first 2/3 of the season though. They lost their last 4 games of the regular season also. They just have gotten hot during the ACC tournament and the dance.
I did not watch that whole game, but what I saw made me think that State had a lot more toughness than Duke. I don’t see that happening with Purdue. Purdue could lose, but it won’t be the way that Duke lost.
Duke looked pretty bad at times, really dumb shots, poor help defense, seemed like a very young team.
Yah I expect the guards to put pressure on Burns at the rim and Paint try’s to attack his D like we did against Knecht. D is neither of their strengths. Burns not likely to high hedge so gives them some room to start downhill. Braden could have a big game if he’s seeking and hitting his shots.
Do you think anyone has played tough aggressive D against you in the tournament? I am asking because I have not seen most of your games so far. I think our D may be key for us to win without this being a nail biter.
Based upon what we have witnessed, Braden will probably have a big game if he isn't hitting shots, but I expect him to get some as you and @proudopete state and hopefully is shooting well. NCS know that Purdue likes to run the 1/5 screen and as you say...Burns is probably not going to hedge on that and so does he just drop back and block out Zach on the boards and hope the D catches Braden or the D goes under Zach to see if Braden can hit it...which I think he is around 40+ behind the arc or if Diarra and Burns are close enough to each other than Zach starts to come up high that Diarra defends Zach up high and then Burns take Trey. If Burns is on trey early enough Purdue can seek out that high ball screen.
What we haven't seen since the Big is the action once Zach rolls and Braden reads his shot and Zach for Mason up high or Zach getting a backscreen by Mason as well. Don't know where Taylor stands on D, but could see some screen the screener with Fletch if Taylor is on him.
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Oakland was allowed to play very physical with us. We were not allowed the same leeway. Thats how we had two bigs foul out. Burns was triple teamed and beat to death. He got his with assists and rebounds. Marquette was also pretty physical. They just lacked the size inside.
Charles Barkley Perfectly Explained Why NC State's DJ Burns Could Have 'Tough Time' vs. Purdue in Final Four
The NC State big man will meet his match on Saturday.
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Hopefully Charles is right.
Charles Barkley Perfectly Explained Why NC State's DJ Burns Could Have 'Tough Time' vs. Purdue in Final Four
The NC State big man will meet his match on Saturday.
The more I think about this game, the more I consider it to be a must-win. It's hard to fathom that although we finally made it to the final four, we're still in the unfortunate position of being pitted against yet another damned double digit seed. We have to win this one. We just have to slay this last demon.
I don't want Purdue to carry the stigma of being remembered as the team that allowed the first double-digit seed to reach the championship game. This team has come too far to deal with this BS.
Disagree 100%. If we lost it wouldn't take anything away from FF. The seeding of NC State is pretty irrelevant as they had to beat several teams to get there int he first place.
Just win and it's a moot point.
Getting to the final 4 is fine and well, but it isn't the final prize. I've never been totally enamored with the F4 alone as much of anything. I've mentioned this before on this board, and I understand it is not a popular opinion.
It doesn't happen often, but several teams have ended up in the F4 by pure luck. I don't want to be remembered as another George Mason or VCU. Sorry, but I'm not happy with being the bridesmaid. I want a trophy.
I guarantee the team wants to win and isn't content with just getting to a FF, the point of the conversation is should we lose it won't take anything away from making the FF and it was no fluke. The basketball team beat some really good programs to get here in the first place.
Raleigh is fantastic-- it's Austin without the pretense...
There, and Savannah, GA are my two favorite places in the Southeast!
I just spoke with her a few minutes ago. They love it there. She said, "You talked about maybe moving to Tennessee...maybe you should consider moving here?" Only been to visit her once to see the new house since it is only a few months old. Things are farther away than when she lived in Frederick, Maryland. Looks like she is real close to an intersection of 98 & 50. Not sure with all my Purdue gear that if I moved to Tennessee some good ole boys down there might not like what I wear?
I wear my Purdue gear all the time here in Tennessee. The good ole boys don’t mess with me one bit. You’ll be fine.I just spoke with her a few minutes ago. They love it there. She said, "You talked about maybe moving to Tennessee...maybe you should consider moving here?" Only been to visit her once to see the new house since it is only a few months old. Things are farther away than when she lived in Frederick, Maryland. Looks like she is real close to an intersection of 98 & 50. Not sure with all my Purdue gear that if I moved to Tennessee some good ole boys down there might not like what I wear?
Long time resident. We’ve lived around Raleigh since 1980. It’s terrible here. Please tell all your friends.
We live just off 98, near Wake Forest. This whole area is booming. Been in the same house since 1992. Home prices are crazy.I just spoke with her a few minutes ago. They love it there. She said, "You talked about maybe moving to Tennessee...maybe you should consider moving here?" Only been to visit her once to see the new house since it is only a few months old. Things are farther away than when she lived in Frederick, Maryland. Looks like she is real close to an intersection of 98 & 50. Not sure with all my Purdue gear that if I moved to Tennessee some good ole boys down there might not like what I wear?
She just said that today. She said some houses were up several hundred thousand. Who can afford that? WHY the increase cost in housing?
NCST folks seem to think they won't play Burns on Edey.Charles Barkley Perfectly Explained Why NC State's DJ Burns Could Have 'Tough Time' vs. Purdue in Final Four
The NC State big man will meet his match on Saturday.
Of course, their other two big men don't remotely have the heft to stand up to Edey.
I'm just trying to decide if he simply is supremely confident or ignorant of what he is going up against.
I just hope when he shows jump hook that Zach does not jump first, but second...straight up and no slapping down. Stay on your feet so he doesn't go under Zach. He has the height to make sure it is a shot and still get it. I'm really curious in what Purdue does and doesn't do against Burns as well as Horne with Diarra and Moresell in the background while running off Taylor.
Trevion had his way against a LOT of bigs with his jump hook. However, Trevion never challenged Kofi as much and Durr at IU gave Trevion some trouble. I suspect he finds backing down Zach a bit more difficult, but if Zack is flat footed he can get his jump hook over him. He is crafty with a touch that can face up and shoot (take up space, but don't go for the shot fake) as well as fade a bit on his drive and still have the strength to use the glass... Keeping Diarra off the board may be as important?
It was a ballsy comment, no doubt. I have to wonder why he would say such a thing, given Zach's propensity to use things people say about him as fuel. 🔥🔥🔥
I agree with your last point. Keeping Diarra off the glass is key. If that guy starts racking up offensive rebounds, it could be a long night.
Hopefully the rumors are true that they want to guard Zach with Diarra. That solves two problems at once, IMO.
Not used to the spotlight, probably because he was a 13 pt scorer on an NIT bound team until a month ago.
Great Osobor said similar things and is potentially better than Burns. But I get it, I wouldn't expect him to come out and say anything different.
I have little doubt that once he goes up against Zach for a bit he'll have the "WTF did I do to deserve this" kinda moment.
I have little doubt that once he goes up against Zach for a bit he'll have the "WTF did I do to deserve this" kinda moment.
I have little doubt that Zach will answer that question for him in the after game presser. 😂
