Herschel Walker: Ambassador to the Bahamas
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If that was true, companies would not be getting rid of DEI divisions and personnel. But they are because simply not needed as they were.
Shame on you for thinking you know better because you are prejudicing your current view with past history. Learn & grow.
DEI became a political tool used by the right to create a wedge for their advantage at the polls. Kamala never talked about DEI. But Trump, Elon, and the boys sure did.
DEI offices, when done correctly, actually serve to protect workers and students against potential bias.
If they are needed as you claim, then why have so many hundreds of companies disbanded them and fired all DEI personnel?
Given that she was a DEI pick, of course she didn't talk about it.
You don't think hiring involves a large element of subjectivity?
Have you ever hired anyone?
If you have 2 guys trying out for a wide receiver position, 1 black, 1 white. They're both 6'2, 210#, have the same experience level, same 40 time, same vertical, same shuttle time, same 225lb bench reps, But, there's only room for one more scholarship, who you giving it to?
Should the NBA have more white players?
Shocker. Kamala, who fit the requirement of being a (sort of) black woman that Joe stated was a requirement for his VP hire, doesn't talk about DEI?
Dude, no one is discriminating against white players in the NBA.
Of course subjectivity comes into play. But are you SERIOUSLY arguing it's that subjectivity, NOT racism or misogyny or a multitude of other biases, that's responsible for qualified minorities being passed over in favor of white people? wtf? Yeah, 150 years of racism isn't the reason. It's because the qualifications were close or identical and the white guy just happened to be the subjective choice..........over and over and over. Get a clue or admit the truth.
No, I was simply responding to your comment that seemed to be saying that subjectivity is not involved in hiring. SERIOUSLY.
@Boiler Buck Only in America is the term oriental considered racist. Someone several years ago in America decided this totally innocuous word was suddenly offensive. “A rug is Oriental, not a person!” And it stuck.
But, in other English speaking countries, it’s not offensive. Because…. it’s not offensive. An offensive word is a word that is either coined to be offensive or misused on purpose to be offensive. Oriental is neither. It means ‘eastern’. “Oooh, I’m so offended! You called that person whose background is eastern, eastern!”
Americans prefer to use the word “Asian” to refer to people of the Far East. But in the UK “Asian” means people from South Asia (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh). Oriental is used for the East Asia and Southeast Asia. And nobody is offended.
But these things aren’t limited to America. British people mistakenly think “Eskimo” is pejorative (because Canadian Inuit don’t like being called Eskimos anymore, even though they are, but Alaskan Eskimos do because they are and are not Inuit, but Iñupiat) and use “Inuit”. But if you want to insult an Alaskan Eskimo? Call him an Inuit. It’s the same as calling a Scot English.
Just like with “Oriental”, it’s not an insult. People just think it is out of ignorance or misdirected anger.
That's not what people on the right believe at all. You're just pulling shlt out of your azz. Nobody on the right cares the color of the skin of the person that is hired.
Don't come to us saying that you're only looking for someone of such and such race before making a hire.
1. Because by definition that's racist
2. By limiting your search by 90% or more, you're almost guaranteed to NOT find the best or most qualified candidate
3. You are continuing racism by performing acts of racism.
As Morgan Friedman once said. The only way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. DEI puts a huge FUKKING spotlight on racism.
We have laws against racism and discrimination. It should be fought against in the court of law wherever it exists. Other than that, we need to STFU about it and hire the BEST candidate no matter the race.
It's people like you that are conditioned to believe that people on the right think (insert leftist narrative of people on the right). The only proof needed is the fact that you consistently get wrong what people on the right actually think.
I've gone round and round with you on similar topics over the years and can't actually believe that I'm wasting my time here because you're so GD brainwashed that you always ignore everything I show you, no matter how solid the evidence is backing my position.
How do you know? Their representation in the NBA isn't the same as the population. That MUST mean they are being discriminated against.
Don't give me this crap that because of the number of whites in the NBA is lower than blacks it’s because of racism. Particularly with 99% of the NBA owners ann GMs are white.
JFC, did this just go right over your head or what? I was trying to give you some self awareness, but you completely missed it.
Yes, I am arguing that it's subjectivity, not racism. There's lots of reasons why a person might not get a job. "Biases", as you state it, can be any number of things, most importantly, "how does this hire represent me, our company and how we are perceived by our customers. Is this person going to help us or hurt us? Do I trust them?"
Indian...Native American.....whatever. If someone gets offended, that's their problem.
Wow!! Never thought I would get a Bishop Andrew Grutka at Holy Angels in Gary reference when I started reading this post!! This made me laugh!! He was Bishop when I was a kid and for his 20th anniversary in ‘77, all Gary Diocese kids got half a day off!! We used to play Holy Angels in CYO football.
It was too bad that Bishop Grutka made sure Bishop Noll and Andrean did not play each other during the regular season during those days. Not sure if his reason. The rivalry in sports between the 2 schools could have been epic.
Never knew he didn’t let them play. Had plenty of grade school friends go to AHS and some of my cousins went to BNI.
Thought by the 80’s they were playing in football and basketball?
Bishop Grutka passed away in the late 80s or early 90s. Not sure if it was towards the end of his life or if the new Gary Diocese Bishop allowed the 2 schools to schedule regular season games against each other in all sports.
The ‘80 or Gary regional between the 2 schools was a classic. With Purdue’s Jim Bullock and IU’s Dan Dakich on Andrean. And Bishop Noll had the McKinney brothers. During that time it was a shame that the 2 schools could not play each other more regularly.
This is one of your most intellectually insufficient arguments that you have made in the forum and you have made some whoppers. 80% black NBA participation just means that more blacks play basketball. Almost 100% of the NBA majority owners are white. No one is preventing white ball players to play in the NBA. And y'all call me a race baiter.
Personally, I could care less what % of the NBA is black. I just like to bring it up to people who love to lean on the DEI argument.
The assumption being, NBA players make the NBA based on talent and being better than the competition, not their skin color.
Why shouldn't this same philosophy be used in corporate America?
There in lies the problem. Y'all assume immediately that because they are black that they are not qualified for corporate of political office (unless republican) or whatever. Where is/was the outrage when qualified blacks were passed up over non-qualified whites in colleges or corporate America. There is a such thing as qualified blacks you know.
Define "qualified"?
As was discussed before: Why a person does or doesn't get a job is very subjective. You could have 2 equally "qualified" job candidates on paper, but one might do better in the interview process.
The problem is when you give someone preferential treatment because of their skin color or gender.
Isn't that what white folks have been doing in the US for 3 over 3 centuries now?
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Dude. You must have some extra time on your hands this morning. I guess I do also since I'm foolin' with you.
What does this music genre questions have to do with anything we are talking about? But I'll play with you. I don't like country music but I appreciate the talent of the singers and musicians. I hate heavy metal. I like R&B/Soul music from the 60s, 70s, and 80's. I classic rock from the 70s and 80s. I like the 80s rap. Rap hasn't been good since the early 2000s. Other than Jazz, the current music scene sucks across all genre.
So now what?
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