If he’s not now, I bet he will be by end of his senior year.
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What's there to understand. If you are a 1 or 2 seed, you can't lose to a 16 or 15 seed period. And after the disasterous tournaments in the previous seasons reaching the final game is outperforming no matter how you choose to look at it.
Painter was getting too comfortable and when you are too comfortable you tend to underperform. I have no problem with fans being upset and Painter deserved all criticisms for these epic loses.
That isn’t making sense. We were ranked number 1 at times (for third straight year) and were the second best team all year. We had the hardest strength of schedule. Expectations were a final four/NC—did you not expect that?, plus another big ten championship. And they did just that except for the NC because we, as fans actually got to see the two best teams against each other.
This isn't that hard. When you underperform 70% of the time in the tournament. There's a 70% chance that we don't make the final 4 even when we are expected to. Winning another game on the final 4 is exceeding expectation peroid.
So you’re saying that your FIRE PAINTER
Petition was the kick in the ass that Matt needed to work harder and get his team to the final four ?
Hmmm. I look at it year by year, as each team is different with players and the experience each player has. If all stayed the same, then I’d agree but since it doesn’t, i don’t agree with you. But you seem to always have some pretty pessimistic views so to each their own.
It wasn't my petition. I have way more important things to do. But I bet your redneck a$$ that Painter would have been called to BoBo office if we lose last year in the first round again...
Like cry on the internet about some teenagers you don’t know not playing basketball well enough for your liking.
Apparently you don't have more important things to do.
If you put any stock in the odds, you absolutely shouldn’t expect it because the odds are against you making the FF, even as a one seed.
It sounds odd to say it, but making the final four as a one seed should be considered exceeding expectations. Making it to the national championship game even more so.
This just sounds so incredibly whiney.
Ok well my expectations were that with the reigning NPOTY and everyone back.
And then do a whole lotta backtracking it looks like when it turns out he was quite wrong.
Cracks me up when they act like it requires getting the FBI Cyber Crimes unit involved in order to go back and find one of their idiotic posts.
Don't be an idiot. It wasn't my petition. I posted someone else petition. Every TRUE Purdue fans SHOULD be mad, after losing to a 16, 15 & a 13 seeds in that fashion.
Yeah we were. But we were realistic in knowing if you fire Painter, you then have to go find a coach, rebuild and be worse off for a few years or more.
Hell, it may end up worse… look down south and see what a dumpster fire that’s been for 3 decades. They’re still hanging on to the glory days like a high school quarterback who has never left his hometown, married the head cheerleader right out of high school and looks at his old newspaper clippings on the wall from 30+ years ago on a daily basis.
I'm not criticizing, you are obviously free to have whatever expectations you want. I'm just saying that even as one of the best teams in the country, making it to the FF or NC game bucks the odds. There's so much randomness in the NCAAT that those things are real achievements, even with one of the top teams in the country.
I'm not sure why it's hard for fans to admit they don't think clearly when their emotions run wild. The fact that our feelings are hurt or we're embarrassed when we lose a game we shouldn't have zero impact on what's best for the program.
Agreed. I just don’t agree with we outperformed due to previous year results when each team is different every year.
I'm not trying to pick a fight but statistically, there's no debating that we did. Even with Zach returning the odds of us reaching the NC game at the start of the season were much lower than 50%.
Again, you can have whatever personal expectations you want, I'm not saying you're wrong to do so.
It's all how one looks at it, and it could be related to pessimism vs optimism. On one hand, we were in the Top 3 teams in the country all season long. When Houston lost in the tournament, and maybe even before that, there was more likelihood of Purdue making the final than anyone else on the right half of the bracket. Truth. But was Purdue "supposed to" make the final? Odds-wise, pre-tournament, no, but no one was technically. Even UConn. It's all how you look at it.
More whining. And blaming someone else for what you posted.
Whatever Andy...
Painter got too comfortable, underperformed in the tournament and some of our fans still kiss his butt. I was at Purdue the same time when he was playing. I like the guy, but you can't choke away opportunities like that again & again. So, I have no problem endorsing it if he loses to a 16, 15 & 13 seeds.
Here s the thing if jalen comes to purdue ok fine if he doesnt and goes to iu iu needs jalen purdue nope he would be like that guard that went to conn castle maybe the last piece to a championship
Is this you repeatedly cutting and pasting your own words, or someone else's?
Imagine having this train of thought after we just playing in the national title game. The team could lose to a low seed this coming tourney and it would look just as foolish to whine about it as it did before. He isn't getting fired, not any time soon.
There are maybe just a few of you ainters left and I'll give you credit for sticking to your mantra even though it's been blown apart, but you need a reality check. There is no "petition" you can put forward that will change the fact that Painter has EARNED the right to stay at Purdue as long as he wants. Period. Get over it.
You posted a Fire Painter Petition, he takes us to the national title game, and I’M the idiot?
So getting back to Haralson. Is this cancellation all hush hush? It’s not being reported anywhere except a Trilly Donovan discord and Neubert saying it on his column (wonder where he got his info from?? I assume, it was from another source than Trilly 😂).
I see some stuff out there on X, but not really from any reputable source…just IU accounts and one UK account…that all could just be regurgitating Trillys discord. Not saying it’s not true just again, odd, not much has come out about it from more major outlets.
Also saw that Indinia, ND and MSU all think they have a good shot at landing him. FWIW, rumor is Matt Ishbia donated $10M to MSU NIL fund right after the Haralson visit… 🤔
Also saw that Indinia, ND and MSU all think they have a good shot at landing him. FWIW, rumor is Matt Ishbia donated $10M to MSU NIL fund right after the Haralson visit… 🤔
Only tangentially related, but if Purdue has a strong season this year (Big Ten championship, SS+ in NCAAT), it will be interesting to see what needs to be done to keep the team together for 2026.
The NIL vultures will be out and it's one thing to say that we're not going to use NIL as an inducement to sign players, it's another to decide how we'll pony up NIL (or not) to keep players. Zach and Braden are one thing, what do you do when opposing schools are coming after all your top players at the same time?
Yeah this is a good question/point. I guess you have to trust the players you’ve recruited and at the end of the day, understand they are trying to do what’s best for them. BUT the type of player paint and staff recruit usually are a certain type and I think wouldn’t leave for money elsewhere unless they’re not getting the PT they thought they’d get….but again, that’s not the type of player painter recruits ya know? Example being Colvin—lotta chatter about him “leaving”, but that’s not who he is even tho ppl tried to read into any little thing.
Sorry for the rambling, but I’m sure we will see some of it eventually, tho.
Agree that the culture and recruiting fit mitigate some of the risk. I also wouldn’t blame a player if they’re tempted to take the money if someone else offer 3x+.
I’m not making a prediction and I’m sure MP and staff have a plan in place, but it is a real consideration in the current environment.
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