Get rid of "defense lives here"
- Thread starter bonefish1
- Start date
I think the difference between you and I is that you're happy with what we have, won't call out a players flaws and think that a few good games makes a great player.
PJ was serviceable. He had a great game against MD, but what he did poorly or doesn't have the skill to do cost Purdue more games than he won.
Scott would have started well ahead of PJ this year and next. Like I said, the ONLY thing PJ does better than Scott is shoot the 3, that's it.
We've lost 4 guards (actually might be more) due to transfer or recommit in the last 3 years.
Why? We they all head cases or is Painter not willing to adapt to their particular strengths, resulting in a difference of opinion between MP and the player.
This is a real concern going forward, of course CE could change all that.
Why? We they all head cases or is Painter not willing to adapt to their particular strengths, resulting in a difference of opinion between MP and the player.
This is a real concern going forward, of course CE could change all that.
Bryson Scott played a good half or two at Purdue. You're just one of those people who don't understand basketball and can never fathom that a highly regarded player coming in sometimes just isn't that good. There's a reason why he ended up at IPFW. I don't think PJ is a superstar by any means but he has demonstrated competence which is far more than Scott showed.
Listen to yourself. Do you really think your little "call out" of a player's flaws on here means anything? You aren't that important man.
We all watched the games. We all know the flaws. If it makes you feel like a big guy to get on here and "call out" flaws then you have more work to do than just PJ Thompson. We didn't have one flawless player on the team. What makes it funny is that you are trumpeting Bryson Scott who played a few decent halves of basketball at Purdue and then transferred and didn't land at any other high major program. If you are going to rip PJ you really need to do better than Bryson Scott.
We are the only team in the state (Div. 1) known for our defense, and I mean intense defense. The signs at Mackey state the obvious, WE KNOW DEFENSE, and Painter knows and is a mastermind at defense. He learned under one of the best defensive minds ever to coach Division 1 basketball. Better than even Knight or Coach K. So there is never a time that Painter is not thinking defense. So if you don't know how to play defense (James Blackmon Jr.), Painter is not even going to recruit you or your matador style defense. Go home and try to wear black and gold another day if you think there is one minuscule chance that Purdue would recruit you, because there isn't. We are who we are, and that is tenacious defenders.
I think you are really making stuff up here. Scott would not have started in front of PJ unless he drastically changed his behavior on court. He was prone to making bad decisions on the court.
Hell, he could even keep himself in a single game without going all me-me-me with his play. Definitely not a team player. Scott would have minimized all the other players on the court, and we would have been no better than Scott's talent could carry us. He was Ronnie Johnson II.
PJ handles the ball better, makes better plays, has more assists, and shoots better than the Scott we actually saw on the court. "The Bryson Scott in your mind" might have played differently, but none of the rest of us saw that player.
I think you are really making stuff up here. Scott would not have started in front of PJ unless he drastically changed his behavior on court. He was prone to making bad decisions on the court.
Hell, he could even keep himself in a single game without going all me-me-me with his play. Definitely not a team player. Scott would have minimized all the other players on the court, and we would have been no better than Scott's talent could carry us. He was Ronnie Johnson II.
PJ handles the ball better, makes better plays, has more assists, and shoots better than the Scott we actually saw on the court. "The Bryson Scott in your mind" might have played differently, but none of the rest of us saw that player.
I'll say it again: the only thing PJ does better than Scott is shoot the 3. PJ is a below avg ball handler for a Big10 PG.
Scott is a MUCH better ball handler, creator, defender, etc.
we wouldn't have struggled with the press as much this year were Scott on the floor.
Watch the iu game from Mackey and then get back to me.
All top teams play really good defense. I think since we emphasize it so much we might give recruits the msg that we are only focused on defense. I think that could run some of them off. Virtually all of the top teams are extremely good defensively.
Do you really think competing coaches are using those lines to win recruits? And you think that players are buying it?
Look, I really like Bryson and wished it worked out. And hope he does GREAT at IPFW. But your statement is not accurate. Off the top of my head, I can think of two other things PJ did better than BS during his time at Purdue...
2. Run the team / limit turnovers / feel for the game (BS had more turnovers than assists i believe..if not it was very close)
3. Team first attitude / chemistry
And obviously shooting the ball from 3 has been very important the last three years to space the floor for AJ. So saying PJ only did 1 thing better is not true.
Just throwing this out there. Is it only coincidence that UVA looks in good shape to advance out of the Midwest Regional and it happens to be their best offensive team?
You definitely need good defense, but I tend to agree that the balance is tipping more toward offense. Nova/Oklahoma should be a great game.
Holy Cow.....Syracuse on a 25-4 run to take a six point lead with 3:30 left. My previous post was potentially the kiss of death for the Cavs.
What gave you the impression that Scott wasn't a team first guy? PGs, by nature need to be a little selfish, unless all you want your PG to do is feed the post.
As for PJ and turnovers, I'd argue the reason he didn't have that many was because he's so limited skill wise, if he's not shooting a 3, he's just trying to dump it down inside. He doesn't create, doesn't break down the D.
In fact, I'd argue that PJ is in the bottom 20% of B10 starting PGs. He's really not a B10 caliber PG, or marginal at best. He's probably a better SG than PG, but that just shows you how poorly Painter has recruited the PG position (or run guys off/decommit).
The real mistake was letting Donnie Hale leave the team. Painter should not have run him off, because he was posed to be the next star of the team. He would have broken that press all by himself (TIC) Come on Bonefish,. Either you never watched Scott play or you have a very selective memory. The kid would try to drive to the paint almost every time he was in the game, regardless of how many defenders were gathered around him. We have all seen too much of that style with Ronnie. Scott was little more than Ronnie Redux. He did not get it.
PJ's high number of assists tell a different story. He was not a confident ball handler, and he lacked size (often needed to break presses). I will give you that. Scott was not much taller. PJ had his shortcomings, but Scott exhibited far more. He had the physical tools to do better, but he didn't get it through his head. Painter wanted him to stay and work it out, but the blow to the over-inflated Scott ego was just too much for him and he quit. Something the kid regrets now.
What another gigantically stupid response. A PG is supposed to be selfish? That right there shows you have never played, have no real basketball knowledge and are just blowing smoke.
The only thing Scott would of done is the same thing he did before, he would drive in to traffic and turn the ball over. Swanigan was doing that enough, Scott would of been a miserable PG and cost us more games. Get over it. He never was the savior you are trying to make him out to be. Hence why he isn't playing for a major school.
Similar threads
