Luckily Berghof and Bobinski work off of facts and data, instead of their feelings.If I had the power to fire Painter, I would.
Luckily Berghof and Bobinski work off of facts and data, instead of their feelings.If I had the power to fire Painter, I would.
Mediocrity at its finestLuckily Berghof and Bobinski work off of facts and data, instead of their feelings.
Still doesn’t make what you said any less wrong. And no one cares what impresses you.Sweet 16’s do not impress me. Sweet 16’s followed by 3 straight years of losing to 13, 15 and 16 really don’t impress me. He sucks.
Any facts to back that statement up?Mediocrity at its finest
OkStill doesn’t make what you said any less wrong. And no one cares what impresses you.
Nope, no facts - Little Rock, North Texas, Saint Peters, FDUAny facts to back that statement up?
6 sweet sixteens, defending B1G champions. While running a clean program.Nope, no facts - Little Rock, North Texas, Saint Peters, FDU
Exactly my point. That is the ceiling with Painter.6 sweet sixteens, defending B1G champions. While running a clean program.
So instead, you will just whine on a message board. That's a healthy solution to your problem.If I had the power to fire Painter, I would.
And how is that “mediocrity”?Exactly my point. That is the ceiling with Painter.
Discussing this on message boards does not bother me at all.So instead, you will just whine on a message board. That's a healthy solution to your problem.
Barely .500 in the NCAA.Nope, no facts - Little Rock, North Texas, Saint Peters, FDU
Now you understand. I believe Purdue should expect more, you do not.And how is that “mediocrity”?
At 17-15 for his career, he’s much more likely to lose in the Rd of 32 than he is to get to the Sweet 16.And how is that “mediocrity”?
But it clearly isn't helping you.Discussing this on message boards does not bother me at all.
Both sides of this talk are behaving in the same way. If one side is whining, then the other is as well. You don't have default virtue because of your position. Everyone is stressing their position and defending it strongly. That's how this works.So instead, you will just whine on a message board. That's a healthy solution to your problem.
But I’m not looking for helpBut it clearly isn't helping you.
What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.At 17-15 for his career, he’s much more likely to lose in the Rd of 32 than he is to get to the Sweet 16.
Again, I was still supporting CMP until it was reported that his big solution is a turnover-prone G5 kid who can’t shoot. If that’s who we get, I have zero confidence that CMP has any idea of how to actually get us to where we all want Purdue basketball to go…
What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.Now you understand. I believe Purdue should expect more, you do not.
What other programs do is not my concern. I believe Purdue should expect more from an 18 yr coach than 1 elite 8 and 3 consecutive losses to a 13, 15 and 16 seed. You clearly think that is good, I do not.What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.
I support Matt Painter, but I'm not defending him here. I simply pointed out that it's ridiculous to say he's mediocre.Defend Painter all you want. The reality is Purdue has made 3 Elite 8’s in 43 years, and only one of those is Painter’s. That’s 1 in every 14.3 years.
Wrong. To YOU, it "truly matters." I don't give a damn about a one and done, crap shoot, made for TV / gamblers tournament.Why? In the scheme of things, winning your League/Division is nice but it really means nothing besides a trip to what truly matters, the playoffs. And once we get there, CMP is overmatched…
Sounds pretty mediocre to me, Considering that most of those sweet sixteens came when:6 sweet sixteens, defending B1G champions. While running a clean program.
I support Matt Painter, but I'm not defending him here. I simply pointed out that it's ridiculous to say he's mediocre.
In fact, in my first post in this thread I acknowledged the frustration many Purdue fans (myself included) feel over the recent NCAA Tournament flameouts.
What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.
Most fan bases would disagree with you. For example, I don’t think many people talk about how many pac 10 championships UCLA has.Wrong. To YOU, it "truly matters." I don't give a damn about a one and done, crap shoot, made for TV / gamblers tournament.
You don't speak for everyone. I would rather have the intimacy of celebrating Big Ten hardware in Mackey around friends and family.
March or nothing mentality is just nonsense.
None of that proves that Painter is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.What other programs do is not my concern. I believe Purdue should expect more from an 18 yr coach than 1 elite 8 and 3 consecutive losses to a 13, 15 and 16 seed. You clearly think that is good, I do not.
What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.Sounds pretty mediocre to me
No. People whining that "Purdue" and "Matt Painter" are at fault for not paying players to come to Purdue do not have a legitimate position. It is a whining complaint made out of ignorance and entitlement. The people whining about it are the people who should be working to fix it.Both sides of this talk are behaving in the same way. If one side is whining, then the other is as well. You don't have default virtue because of your position. Everyone is stressing their position and defending it strongly. That's how this works.
You believe Purdue doesn't expect more?Now you understand. I believe Purdue should expect more, you do not.
Who is whining about Purdue and Painter not paying players? Show your receipts. Painter has the talent.No. People whining that "Purdue" and "Matt Painter" are at fault for not paying players to come to Purdue do not have a legitimate position. It is a whining complaint made out of ignorance and entitlement. The people whining about it are the people who should be working to fix it.
The perpetually overrated B1G should not be our standard. I know that's hard to understand.What percentage of B1G coaches average 1 NCAA per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.
You may be right on this, but it’s what the big money guys think that matters, ultimately.That is correct
No, it doesn’t prove it to you. Because you think making the tournament is a success. And that is fine.None of that proves that Painter is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.
You haven't been reading these threads if you have to ask that.Who is whining about Purdue and Painter not paying players? Show your receipts. Painter has the talent.
OK, what percentage of Power 6 coaches average 1 NCAA win per season coached? Must be at least 50% if Matt is “mediocre” or a “really bad tournament coach”.The perpetually overrated B1G should not be our standard. I know that's hard to understand.
You apparently don’t know the definitions of the words “mediocrity” or “really bad”.No, it doesn’t prove it to you. Because you think making the tournament is a success.
Again, I think 1 elite 8 in 18 yrs and losing the last 3 tournaments to 13, 15 and 16 when you have an All-American is not a success. You clearly do. That’s ok, we just look at things differently.You apparently don’t know the definitions of the words “mediocrity” or “really bad”.
Must have missed them. I don’t subscribe to that. I do subscribe that Painter has the talent and has not produced in March with that talent.You haven't been reading these threads if you have to ask that.
And I agree that Painter has the talent to win.
How is averaging 1 NCAA tournament win per season “mediocre” ?Again, I think 1 elite 8 in 18 yrs and losing the last 3 tournaments to 13, 15 and 16 when you have an All-American is not a success. You clearly do. That’s ok, we just look at things differently.
The last 3 tournaments, Painter has had really good teams and lost to teams seeded worse than Purdue. Not only worse, but 13, 15 and 16 seed. You clearly believe that shows he is a good tournament coach. I do not.How is averaging 1 NCAA tournament win per season “mediocre” ?
How does that make Painter a “really bad tournament coach” ??