@SDBoiler1 You have five questions to answer here and you better explain them all without deflecting. Got it?
Faux News not covering prime time Jan 6 hearings
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Sadly Joe says a lot of things Joe doesn't know he says
As I was going to post some pics of the guns I mentioned I stumbled upon an article discussing the topic I just mentioned. Semi-Auto Rifles: Common for 100 Years: Mass Shooters, Not
I had an Italian 6.5 semi close to 60 years ago that was surplus sold in KMart for maybe $15 bucks or so? If it rings a bell it is because it was the gun that shot JFK
Sorry Tom the Carcano used to assassinate JFK was a bolt action.
I recall Oswald used a bolt action but experts investigating the shooting were surprised how fast he was able to hit JFK repeatedly using a bolt action. This may have added speculation that there was more than one shooter?
You are right...my error. There was MUCH conversation about his ability to get that many shots off in such a short time with a bolt shooting JFK and why many thought there was that extra shooter in the "grassy knoll. Oh well, the context on the semi guns and history is correct and that was the important thing. I remember the stock having three crosses on it signifying what I thought at the time was the number of kills. It was very loud and "that gun" was not that accurate I seem to recall
I was pretty sure but also just spent a morning at the Book Repository in Dallas. I was most struck by how small the infamous "grassy knoll" actually is.
Well if that's true then we as a society can't have these type of guns. I was thinking we need to just limit the age of purchase. We have a death rate of 4 per 100,000 now from guns and no other country in the world has more than .7 per 100,000 other than the US. Until the US gets its act together we need to limit what's available to purchase.
You’re openly advocating rescinding the 2nd Amendment? There are lots of gun laws in place already. Some of the bluest states/cities have the worst gun violence problems of any of them (Chicago, IL for instance). Criminals will find ways to get guns - all you’re doing is infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens by what you’re advocating. Generally, that’s illegal according to the USSC.
Uh, no. I am just wanting restrictions on what and who can buy them. We have always had that. Can you buy a Thompson machine gun?
I'm curious...what few counties in teh USA contribute to most of the deaths and are they where dems are in power? Going further, do these murders take place where it is known to be "gun free areas"? Good information if both things are true. It appears most shootings are by dems against dems. 400,000,000 guns in the USA with few involved in shootings pretty much makes it easy to see that guns are not the issue or there would be a lot more deaths. As stated previously, guns have been around for a lot of years and mass murders (not shootings since that is a play on words to try to tie in all the law abiding guns held by citizens) were pretty much nonexistent for decades with easier gun access and much fewer gun laws. Outside the emotional appeal to many that have little to no understanding of guns in general, gun control has contributed to many more deaths across the world than no gun control.
Even in the USA , the "Meadows Massacre" in Utah was accomplished by taking away guns. The gazillions of deaths over the years across the globe can be found here The History of Gun Control across the globe . Course pursuing the age of 21 will cut down a lot of murders since the killers are all under 21.
My guns have never shot anyone and why should I or the millions of other gun owners have our "rights" (not to be infringed) limited due to any gun control measure to prohibit the murderers from killing others? When a drunk or someone high kills others with his vehicle, my "desires" (not rights) are not infringed. Instead, only the person responsible is addressed. This whole topic like so many other things fall between the contrained and unconstrained views Thomas Sowell wrote about here A Conflict of Visions.
Relative to that is a book I haven't read, but sounds very interesting on so many things...gun control being but just one is the book on "Unintended Consequences" which indirectly ties into the "Uncontrained Vision" Sowell writes in Conflict of Visions- Unintended Consequences . Not part of the book, but to get a flavor is one of many short videos
So what party did Adam Lanza, Nicholas Cruz, Payton S. Gendron, Dylan Roof or Patrick Crusius belong? If you want to ban Dems from having guns so be it but I doubt that many of these mass casualty shooters identify with any party; they can't even buy a beer but we trust them with AR-15's?I'm curious...what few counties in teh USA contribute to most of the deaths and are they where dems are in power? Going further, do these murders take place where it is known to be "gun free areas"? Good information if both things are true. It appears most shootings are by dems against dems. 400,000,000 guns in the USA with few involved in shootings pretty much makes it easy to see that guns are not the issue or there would be a lot more deaths. As stated previously, guns have been around for a lot of years and mass murders (not shootings since that is a play on words to try to tie in all the law abiding guns held by citizens) were pretty much nonexistent for decades with easier gun access and much fewer gun laws. Outside the emotional appeal to many that have little to no understanding of guns in general, gun control has contributed to many more deaths across the world than no gun control.
Even in the USA , the "Meadows Massacre" in Utah was accomplished by taking away guns. The gazillions of deaths over the years across the globe can be found here The History of Gun Control across the globe . Course pursuing the age of 21 will cut down a lot of murders since the killers are all under 21.
My guns have never shot anyone and why should I or the millions of other gun owners have our "rights" (not to be infringed) limited due to any gun control measure to prohibit the murderers from killing others? When a drunk or someone high kills others with his vehicle, my "desires" (not rights) are not infringed. Instead, only the person responsible is addressed. This whole topic like so many other things fall between the contrained and unconstrained views Thomas Sowell wrote about here A Conflict of Visions.
Relative to that is a book I haven't read, but sounds very interesting on so many things...gun control being but just one is the book on "Unintended Consequences" which indirectly ties into the "Uncontrained Vision" Sowell writes in Conflict of Visions- Unintended Consequences . Not part of the book, but to get a flavor is one of many short videos
We need to restrict what types of guns are available to the public and at least have some age limits. This isn't 1789 anymore.
The bigger issue in Chitcago is lack of effective prosecution. Tough gun laws have no effect if you don’t arrest and prosecute violators and throw away the key.
How much are from suicide? Mental health is a big driver for this number. Just added the breakdown. As I thought it's a huge contributor
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2021 than in any other year on record, according to the latest available statistics from the CDC.
www.pewresearch.org
If you haven't watched it then don't comment on the movie
Puf said it was debunked repeatedly, but could not say who debunked it.
But be easy on him. He has a big night ahead, trying to stay awake through a Hollywood-produced 'hearing' while watching for any mention of the FBI so he can alert us - all while trying to keep his heavy breathing in check and not pass out...
Don’t forget his most important task of floating around this board telling anybody who doesn’t agree with him politically that they’re fine with children being killed in schools. The pufster is busy!
You’re still floating around here? I thought you were done at the end of May.
Oh and none of y’all seem too bothered by the school shootings so I’m not making any great leaps.
Thanks, but I didn't ask for those hearings. You must be hearing things in your racist mind about hearings, maybe from all the excitement about the farce hearing tonight that puf is going to monitor for us as long as he is conscious.
Does that bother you? I know the crazies like yourself get very territorial about this place and you’re obviously on it enough to monitor my posts. Good lord you’re a loser.
Yeah, us in the “y’all” group are level headed and not nearly as emotional as you are when it comes to such a complex issue that can’t and won’t be solved by agreeing with your loony political views. Again, you don’t have kids and never will so save your commentary on us not caring and being fine with schools being shot up. It’s not true and just makes you look crazier than you are. Those mean Republicans aren’t as heartless as you think.
Oh yeah I lose a ton of sleep. Just wondering if one of these times is gonna stick is all lol. Attention whores are gonna attention whore, I suppose.
So because I don’t have kids I don’t get to have thoughts about the subject? You’re not a woman but you have no problem telling women what they can do with their bodies. By that logic I have every right to an opinion here. I have nephews with another on the way. Do you know how jarring it is to hear them talk about practicing hiding from a school shooter? I would like to think you would feel the same.
Of course I know some of you guys care about kids. I’m just making blanket statements that are no less ridiculous than your fellow buddies on here make. Interesting that you don’t call them out at all. Wonder why that is? Guess you just need validation from time to time. You’re as much of a hypocrite as anyone else on this board, atl, which is fine. It’s an anonymous message board. Until your next hiatus….
Do you ever sleep? There’s little time to do so when you’re glued to your phone and this board.
When have I ever told a woman what to do with her body? Using your logic, you’re fine with babies dying in the womb? It sure sounds like it. Is this when I’m supposed to get really emotional and call you a baby killer?
Sheesh, I hope your nephews learn how not to live their lives from you. Yeah, it’s terrible to have them do that in schools but it’s not the Republicans fault like you think it is. Again, you’ll never have children (thank God) and you have to be a parent to fully understand this issue.
Oh, so just making blanket statements to make them? Makes sense. Who am I supposed to call out and for what? Hahaha you calling me a hypocrite is funny. Until the next hiatus you never take because you’re too crazy to do anything else with your life but go after those mean Republicans…
Actually Bill my comment about party was along the line of "murderers" which may be a half a dozen, or a single killing over several incidents. I'm unsure that a few times of multiple killings is worse that thousands of killings of one or two. Now, I'm guessing you may not have the firearm background as others in this thread, but that shouldn't prevent anyone from increasing his or her knowledge in any subject area or stating an opinion.
Based upon history of gun availability of the past, increasing gun control the last few decades especially...how do you arrive at a decision that the killings today are those guns...guns that a few of us have that haven't killed anyone? 400,000,000 guns are a lot of guns...the biggest potential army in the world. How do you reconcile those conflicting data points outside of emotion?
Then we have people that wish to murder others. Those people whether criminals before or about to join the ranks know they are signing their death warrants in murdering others. If a previous criminal, we already know the person has obviously not complied with laws. Why should we expect the criminal that wants to murder someone to comply now? If not a criminal, how do you reconcile that a person willing to die by murdering others would somehow care about some minor breaking of the law when he or she is about to commit the most heinous of all acts. How do you reconcile that Bill? I understand the emotional appeal to do something...anything to prevent murderers from killing, but I don't understand any logic behind your opinion. It is the people that have changed, not the firepower as Mother Teresa spoke in 1994.
How do you explain the murdering of today compared to the past when considering gun laws etc..? How do you reconcile the shootings much more prevalent in "gun free" areas than areas where the potential for confrontation exists and arrive that we need more gun free potentials? Nobody wants innocent people killed, but government overreach is replete with unintended consequences. Even today a person defending their home, their property and the lifes of their loved ones has risk due to laws catering to the criminal more than needed. Anyway, I asked a few things where I don't understand how you (or anyone else that wants to chime in) reconcile conflicting data for those advocating "more" gun laws on citizens due to murderers actions.
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Don’t you have a family? How do you raise your kids when you spend your time glued to your phone and this board? Actually, check that. Less time for dad to mind-fukk them into being as big of a jackass as he is. You’re clearly a shitty parent who I have no doubt will teach his kids to grow up to be terrible people.
Yeah I have a family, something you’d know nothing about and there we go. Get fired up and emotional. “Mind-fukk them” is such a level headed and mature thing to say.
Nah, junior will be successful and happily married like Dad. Not stuck by himself screaming on a message board about Republicans like you. I’d say you’re a shitty parent but you’ll never get a chance to be one, thankfully. This country needs less of you and more of me. Good, solid parents who are present in a heterosexual and positive household.
I'm sure you put a lot of thought in your response but frankly I'm got pretty bored 1/2 way through it but I have the impression that you think we need even more arms. BTW having grown up in rural America I am pretty familiar with guns. My family had some real marksman in it but thought to many people were poorly trained and just plain dangerous.
My dad had a shot fired go about 6 inches over his head when he was out by the barn-no it was not intentional but he never knew what moron fired the shot either-just some dumbass hunter we presumed. Hunters and their like were always trespassing and trashing our property cutting fences, etc. which if you have livestock is always a worry or that they might get shot and as a kid I had to stay in the house more than a few days because hunters were in the area. I doubt that you own any farmland or own livestock or you might understand? You sound like a city fella.
I thought you would be watching the HUAC hearings in lieu of the January 6th hearings tonight-remembering the good old days when Roy Cohn was a star!!
My grandparents lived on a farm and wouldn’t have felt safe unless they had guns.
I see the similarities you are getting at between those hearings and the one tonight. The corrupt FBI then and now; blacklists then, cancel culture now; political establishment hacks then and now persecuting people for their beliefs; and so on.
Uncommon insight for a racist. Thanks!
I have seen you pull the racist card out of your belt several times on this board to disparage other people. I think everyone is a racist to some extent and if you deny it you are a damn liar. If you have a mirror you will see a good illustration of a racist.
Several times? Other than you today and faux Purdue grad in jest, I don't recall such disparagements. In fact, I think you are making that up. If you can find "several times" of that using the search engine, I will apologize. Otherwise, you should apologize for a vicious fabrication (not that I expect you to have the decency to do so).
I deny the lie you stated above, which you are now backing down from because, apparently, you don't think it is worth the effort to prove you are not a liar.
There's something to that because you are out on an island in the country. My dad didn't have any guns in the house when I was a pre-teen being aware that we would more likely get injured with them than not having them around-and yes, he was a farmer. If suppose if he ever would have thought he needed a gun he would get one from my grandparents who lived just a mile down the road but all they had was a 12 gauge shot gun and a .22 single shot rifle.
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