So, let me follow this logic.... we haven't been to a Final Four because Painter takes on too many projects? Is that your contention? Can you identify the number of projects on all of the FF teams from the last 5 years or so? Is our number higher or lower than the FF average? Exactly what is a "project" in your mind?
Seems like there are 13 scholarships available, but our rotation is only 8-9 players deep. That means 4 players can be projects, and not affect the game at all, right? So if we have just 3, seems like we are okay.
What is missing from your argument is the cause-effect logic. For example, I say we haven't been to a Final Four, since 1980, because we have too many "U's" in our school name. Prove me wrong.
So if Purdue changed its name back to its original name of Indiana A &M, then we could guarantee a final 4?
There is merit to a discussion about projects. To many on this board, Dow would be considered a project. But if he were to sign with a lesser team like Western Michigan, he would be considered as an immediate impact player!
Being called a project is a good thing! It means you are teachable and have the potential to elevate your game to a higher level!
treed has made the point several times and I agree with her! It's a big jump from high school to college! Many of the highly ranked one and done players look less than great when they first start playing college basketball! Despite their talent, they are all projects. The best ones are the one with the faster learning curves! I'll use Wiggins as an example! He has a lot of talent! And as a freshman at Kansas you could see that talent! But he also made a lot of mistakes! The same was true of Kansas Jackson last year. At times he looked lost last year! He was a project! He's still a project in the NBA.
The question I wrestle with is how big of a project do you want your college coach to take on? When Joe Barry Carrol came to Purdue, every college coach declared him as a project! But he learned and became a force! Matt Van Damm also came to Purdue as a project!
All college athletes are projects! The question is do you want them to become elite players as freshmen? Or do you have the patience to wait until they are seniors? When you give a player a 4 year scholarship, do you want and expect them to be immediate contributors and become 4 year starters? Or are you willing to allow them to develop and wait until they are a junior or senior? Elite programs have the depth to allow a player to develop! Some develop faster than others!
I'll mention two names of football players! They are future hall of famers but they did nothing as rookies other than hold a clip board and watch and learn! Bret Favre and Aaron Rogers! And one hall of fame basketball player didn't set the world on fire as a freshman at UNC! His last name was Jordan.
To conclude, there is a difference between being a project and being a player with little ability! My son was a project as a track athlete and has shown the ability to learn how to be a decathlete. There were some events he never attempted in high school! But there is also a highlight video on YouTube where his basketball skills were on display in front of many div 1 coaches playing aau basketball! Given 10 years, he would still never be a college basketball project! To be considered as a project, you first have to have a certain amount of talent to develop!
And to the point... the last time Purdue went to the final 4, they were led and carried by a guy tha every coach in America called a project - Joe Barry Carrol! And I am proud to have watched his first game!