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Shoot better from 3…check
Don’t rely too much on Zach…check
Run with the ball…check
Attack the press…check
Jones is pretty good…check
Heide is pretty good…check
Colvin is really good…check

If this is what we are going okay like this season, look out!
 
Shoot better from 3…check
Don’t rely too much on Zach…check
Run with the ball…check
Attack the press…check
Jones is pretty good…check
Heide is pretty good…check
Colvin is really good…check

If this is what we are going okay like this season, look out!
I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)
 
Shoot better from 3…check
Don’t rely too much on Zach…check
Run with the ball…check
Attack the press…check
Jones is pretty good…check
Heide is pretty good…check
Colvin is really good…check

If this is what we are going okay like this season, look out!
1)Purdue putting more effort into
D 2) Purdue playing with Zach rather than through him3)Zach playing D without double and more active as well. Lance providing D and quickness gives that much needed extra ball handler and as you saY Myles and cam provide athleticism and potential.
 
I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)
Cam must not be a two feet jumper since he isn’t as effeactive in traffic at the rim s you would think with his vertical
 
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I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)

Agree Heide was starter quality tonight. Played well on both sides. Had a ton of points, was he 2nd leading scorer??

Hope it continues as competition picks up.
 
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I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)
Oh I would definitely plays Heide before Colvin right now. Colvin is a beast however and I’m not sure how you keep him off the floor.
 
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Oh I would definitely plays Heide before Colvin right now. Colvin is a beast however and I’m not sure how you keep him off the floor.

His shot selection could improve. His D is improving, but not there yet.
 
Still struggling with the press. When we run into a talented, well disciplined, fast team that can press, it may cause us some problems.
 
I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)
Not to dis guys like Morton but Heide is my type of "glue" guy, Plays solid defense, can rebound and is able and willing to take the open shot but doesn't force anything.

Just one game but I saw a little Mathias in him tonight which is exactly what we're going to need.
 
I give Morton alot of static. Too many minutes. Maybe right/maybe wrong?

But last night I saw an aspect of his game I have not considered.....his coaching up the younger guys. Saw this on a couple occasions. As long as that is recieved well, and that's important too....he perhaps has a valuable roll there, as he is an extremely smart player. Good on him.
 
No one is talking about Berg 7 points in 7 minutes and 4 boards. I get it we have a lot of talented players. Not the least of which is Will Berg.
It's become pretty apparent that Waddell and Berg are the odd men out. Berg is showing that he may have a role in future years but he probably won't see many meaningful minutes this year.
 
I give Morton alot of static. Too many minutes. Maybe right/maybe wrong?

But last night I saw an aspect of his game I have not considered.....his coaching up the younger guys. Saw this on a couple occasions. As long as that is recieved well, and that's important too....he perhaps has a valuable roll there, as he is an extremely smart player. Good on him.
He actually played pretty well, but he's still the same old Morton. Think about this. Heide scored a very efficient 13 points yesterday in his first game. Morton's career high is 10.
 
He actually played pretty well, but he's still the same old Morton. Think about this. Heide scored a very efficient 13 points yesterday in his first game. Morton's career high is 10.

M always plays very well against slower guys reguardless of team quality.

Yea Heide made a great case for himself last night. Looking forward to his continued good play so he gets more minutes. Just game 1 -- let's see this against Gonz. I expected some ugly play from newbies. See that in MC from time to time. Don't see that in H so far.....seems up to speed on both sides of the ball so far.
 
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Cam must not be a two feet jumper since he isn’t as effeactive in traffic at the rim s you would think with his vertical
Couple of times it looked to me that he got caught between a true take off and just trying to get to the rim.
 
It's become pretty apparent that Waddell and Berg are the odd men out. Berg is showing that he may have a role in future years but he probably won't see many meaningful minutes this year.

While Furst is ahead of Berg defensively, offensive production could be higher with Berg as the reserve 5? Something to watch.
 
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While Furst is ahead of Berg defensively, offensive production could be higher with Berg as the reserve 5? Something to watch.
Maybe, Furst in this case gets around 10
Minutes a game, that would be awfully low for someone that many expected great things from.
 
Cam must not be a two feet jumper since he isn’t as effeactive in traffic at the rim s you would think with his vertical
Thats part of what worries me more about his foot issues (3 different broken bones the last 2 years). Two foot = more straight up and down. 1 foot means lots more flying and horizontal movement, tough landings and chances to get knocked off balance. I don't mean to harp on it but bone problems in the feet don't often go away.
And his potential seems so through the roof that I don't want anything in the way.
 
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Thats part of what worries me more about his foot issues (3 different broken bones the last 2 years). Two foot = more straight up and down. 1 foot means lots more flying and horizontal movement, tough landings and chances to get knocked off balance. I don't mean to harp on it but bone problems in the feet don't often go away.
And his potential seems so through the roof that I don't want anything in the way.
That is true. I just meant it appears he isn't the same jumper when going off two feet. Todd Mitchell was known as a two feet jumper. Hopefully Cam stays healthy as he does show a lot of potential and he has already had more injuries than most. Still it is hard to be a boiler without some injury setback. ;)
 
1)Purdue putting more effort into
D 2) Purdue playing with Zach rather than through him3)Zach playing D without double and more active as well. Lance providing D and quickness gives that much needed extra ball handler and as you saY Myles and cam provide athleticism and potential.
4) Better at valuing possessions/fewer turnovers -- work in progress.
 
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so far in one game the turnovers were good but as you say it is a work in progress that Matt hopes has a short lifespan
8 by the starters and 15 overall. I think Painter would be happy with 8. I expect it is a continuing theme in practice.
 
10 or less TO's is the goal. CMP has talked several times about limiting TO's to 10 or less. We do that and we are very dangerous. We are very efficient on offense and have been for several years. We are also a good offensive rebounding team. We just need to not turn the ball over and we are very likely to win. He has said many times, "you can't rebound a turnover".

I would also love to see the 3 pt% improve from last year, but if you gave me a choice between that, or we keep turnovers to 10 or less, I'll take the TO choice every time.
 
Relax on your analysis guys. It was Sanford and now Morehead St. I will wait till after Xavier, Gonzaga and the rest of the Maui field to see if things are in fact different. Will go on record that Smith and Loyer will struggle against big athletic guards. Also feel Furst will get those minutes Berg is playing now because he needs to play more
 
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10 or less TO's is the goal. CMP has talked several times about limiting TO's to 10 or less. We do that and we are very dangerous. We are very efficient on offense and have been for several years. We are also a good offensive rebounding team. We just need to not turn the ball over and we are very likely to win. He has said many times, "you can't rebound a turnover".

I would also love to see the 3 pt% improve from last year, but if you gave me a choice between that, or we keep turnovers to 10 or less, I'll take the TO choice every time.
I think that the reason why Painter emphasizes turnovers over poor shooting is that, assuming your shot selection is good, turnovers are easier to minimize with good decision making and avoiding carelessness with the ball. Shooting is largely mental and sometimes the worst thing that a player can do is overthink it.

Yet, if you look at Painter’s recruiting, he’s prioritizing shooting skill. If you look at teams that make deep tournament runs, shooting is usually a huge part of their success. Even Purdue’s 2019 run was largely predicated on outstanding shooting.

If you don’t force defenses to defend the three, any offense, even one with Zach Edey, is going to be much easier to defend. If Purdue’s shooters this year can shoot like I believe that they are capable of, I think that this Purdue team can be an offensive juggernaut.

On the other hand, there’s no doubt that gaining an extra 4-6 possessions per gaming by eliminating turnovers would make a huge impact as well. Painter is correct to focus there and to continue to show confidence in his good shooters.
 
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I'm not sure I'd rate Heide's play tonight below Colvins - I think I'd put Heide a bit ahead of Colvin in overall play... (although Colvin had more flashy plays for sure)
Agree. Colvin probably needs to get better defensively.
 
Maybe, Furst in this case gets around 10
Minutes a game, that would be awfully low for someone that many expected great things from.
Iv'e already thought this and I get laughed at by family just sharing my opinion. While I like Furst, Berg is so good to the basket. If he's part of the team, it's not unheard of him to maybe get some minutes.
 
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Maybe, Furst in this case gets around 10
Minutes a game, that would be awfully low for someone that many expected great things from.
I may be in the minority but based on the limited results so far (2 scrimmages and first game), I'm not seeing the pairing of Edey and TKR as an improvement over Edey and Furst/Gillis. It may turnout that way, but I haven't seen much to make me think it's a big improvement.

Not sure I care who wins the battle but I wouldn't write any of the three off yet.
 
I may be in the minority but based on the limited results so far (2 scrimmages and first game), I'm not seeing the pairing of Edey and TKR as an improvement over Edey and Furst/Gillis. It may turnout that way, but I haven't seen much to make me think it's a big improvement.

Not sure I care who wins the battle but I wouldn't write any of the three off yet.

That's because none of those 3 is setting the world on fire as of yet. But guess I'm spoiled after Hummel, so there's that.....it's early, something to watch in the games to come.
 
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