What metric makes Calipari the “best of the best”?
I’m not sure one exists.
Maybe the fact that he's made it to the Elite 8 or further 7 times in the last 10 years.
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What metric makes Calipari the “best of the best”?
I’m not sure one exists.
Is that the best anyone has done?Maybe the fact that he's made it to the Elite 8 or further 7 times in the last 10 years.
John Wooden won 10 national championships in a 12 year career at UCLA, including 7 in a row.Maybe the fact that he's made it to the Elite 8 or further 7 times in the last 10 years.
Is that the best anyone has done?
John Wooden won 10 national championships in a 12 year career at UCLA, including 7 in a row.
Wouldn’t that make him the best of the best?
Uh, so is he the best of the best or no?Ever no, in the last 10 years yes. Him, K, Roy, and Self are generally regarded as the best coaches in college basketball
Uh, so is he the best of the best or no?
You said the best of the best. There can be only one ana yEver no, in the last 10 years yes. Him, K, Roy, and Self are generally regarded as the best coaches in college basketball
It isn’t the same thing but, you already knew that.If I'm starting a college basketball program tomorrow, John Calipari is my first call. Is that suffice?
You said the best of the best. There can be only one ana y
It isn’t the same thing but, you already knew that.
That still doesn’t mean he is the best of the best. Wright has won two national championships in that same time frame. Many would say that is better. Is it not?I didn't say the best of all time. Context. I was asked if I would take Calipari over Archie right now. My answer "he's the best of the best" doesn't include John Wooden because not only is he no longer coaching, he's also dead. Cal is the best coach in college basketball today. That's why I said what I said. Now go practice falling down.
It’s also pretty funny that when you are shown to not know what you are talking about, you lash out. Is that what your mother did to you as a child?I didn't say the best of all time. Context. I was asked if I would take Calipari over Archie right now. My answer "he's the best of the best" doesn't include John Wooden because not only is he no longer coaching, he's also dead. Cal is the best coach in college basketball today. That's why I said what I said. Now go practice falling down.
That still doesn’t mean he is the best of the best. Wright has won two national championships in that same time frame. Many would say that is better. Is it not?
That doesn’t make him the best of the best. Google best current college basketball coaches and he isn’t on top of any list I can find. Maybe it’s just you who thinks that.No coach in the last decade has advanced in the tournament as constantly and as far as Calipari and in all honesty it's not even close. Cal has advanced to the E8 7 or more times. No coach has done it more than 5 times. You seem to have a problem with my opinion? Or do you just like picking fights for no apparent reason?
That doesn’t make him the best of the best. Google best current college basketball coaches and he isn’t on top of any list I can find. Maybe it’s just you who thinks that.
Hint: You thinking something doesn’t make it fact.
Bob Knight is still alive. Is Calipari better than him?
If there isn’t a right or wrong answer, how can you make a claim that he is the best of the best? Most people would choose a coach who has won more championships than one who has won less. Right?This isn't a debate about who the best coach of all-time is, never was and never has been until you made it one. I was asked a question if I would take Calipari over Archie Miller and I said yes because I consider him to be the best college basketball coach today. This was never about hypothetical scenario where you get to choose a coach from any era, I was asked if I would replace Cal with Archie and of course I said yes because it is of my opinion that he's the best in the game.
I don't need to Google anything because just as I have mine, every list is completely subjective and there isn't a right or wrong answer.
If there isn’t a right or wrong answer, how can you make a claim that he is the best of the best? Most people would choose a coach who has won more championships than one who has won less. Right?
It is funny watching you come to a Purdue board defending Calipari while simultaneously posting on the IU board defending Miller. You clearly didn’t get enough attention as a child.
You don’t find it weird that when defending Miller, you demand data in support of an opinion, but, while defending Calipari, data doesn’t persuade you?
I think it’s a pretty widely held belief that as of right now, coach K is the best of the best in college basketball. That can be debated of course but nobody coaching right now has won as many championships as him. As an IU fan, one would think championships count the most.
This guy thinks that posting on a free message board constitutes a "conversation"! Got news for you buddy, what you post is openly read by anyone who wants to, and anyone who wants to can respond too. Get over yourself, and stop with the attitude.You're a literally a dumbass. I would take K over Archie as well. I was never asked "who would replace Archie Miller with", I was asked if you would "replace Cal with Miller". It's a yes or no answer. I answered yes. You weren't even involved in the conversation, let alone can grasp the context of the conversation. I'm taking Calipari over any coach in college basketball right now to coach my team because nobody has been more consistent or recruited better than Cal in the last decade. I'm done speaking with you. Ignore feature will be just fine for you.
I don’t believe for a second that coach Cal or coach K are the two best in the business. Do they consistently get the top recruits? Yes. That does not make them great coaches.You're a literally a dumbass. I would take K over Archie as well. I was never asked "who would replace Archie Miller with", I was asked if you would "replace Cal with Miller". It's a yes or no answer. I answered yes. You weren't even involved in the conversation, let alone can grasp the context of the conversation. I'm taking Calipari over any coach in college basketball right now to coach my team because nobody has been more consistent or recruited better than Cal in the last decade. I'm done speaking with you. Ignore feature will be just fine for you.
The best-of-the-best coaches are coaching in the NBA pro ranks for the most part. That is where the game is being created and innovation is taking place.I don’t believe for a second that coach Cal or coach K are the two best in the business. Do they consistently get the top recruits? Yes. That does not make them great coaches.
My wife put together a flag football team years ago to play in an indoor league. Two year undefeated run and no one even came close to beating our team. Does that make me the best flag football coach in our area? No, she was able to get the absolute best athletes in my sons age group to play together. I did not have any plays, just made it up as we went.
Nope. Before he was fired from L'ville and IU hired Archie.20 years ago when Knight was fired maybe
Because he cheats?No coach in the last decade has advanced in the tournament as constantly and as far as Calipari and in all honesty it's not even close. Cal has advanced to the E8 7 or more times. No coach has done it more than 5 times. You seem to have a problem with my opinion?
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My wife put together a flag football team years ago to play in an indoor league. Two year undefeated run and no one even came close to beating our team. Does that make me the best flag football coach in our area? ***
I agree with this somewhat. I think K was able to get the best due to his performance. Five titles in the modern era is tough to beat.I don’t believe for a second that coach Cal or coach K are the two best in the business. Do they consistently get the top recruits? Yes. That does not make them great coaches.
My wife put together a flag football team years ago to play in an indoor league. Two year undefeated run and no one even came close to beating our team. Does that make me the best flag football coach in our area? No, she was able to get the absolute best athletes in my sons age group to play together. I did not have any plays, just made it up as we went.
This guy thinks that posting on a free message board constitutes a "conversation"! Got news for you buddy, what you post is openly read by anyone who wants to, and anyone who wants to can respond too. Get over yourself, and stop with the attitude.
When you say "best of the best" you have invited lots of debate. Don't get all bent when someone disagrees with you. Calipari failed miserably attempting to coach at the next level. Many will say his success at the college level didn't take off until he started working with World-Wide-Wes. That shadowy figure routed really good players to Calipari. Hell, even Tom Crean could claim success with that talent. Best of the best? I don't think he's even close as a real functional coach, when he can't roll out a dozen burger boys.
Nope. Before he was fired from L'ville and IU hired Archie.
I don’t believe for a second that coach Cal or coach K are the two best in the business. Do they consistently get the top recruits? Yes. That does not make them great coaches.
My wife put together a flag football team years ago to play in an indoor league. Two year undefeated run and no one even came close to beating our team. Does that make me the best flag football coach in our area? No, she was able to get the absolute best athletes in my sons age group to play together. I did not have any plays, just made it up as we went.
Nice deflection. LOL! I didn't go down that path, you are. Lets get back to the topic here. We are talking about Calipari and if he is really the "best of the best".That’s rich. John Wooden didn’t win a national title until Sam Gilbert came into the picture. Do you really want to go down that route? Wooden would have been barred from college basketball long before his dynasty took off of the NCAA was regulated back then the way it is today.
Source? Link?That’s rich. John Wooden didn’t win a national title until Sam Gilbert came into the picture. Do you really want to go down that route? Wooden would have been barred from college basketball long before his dynasty took off of the NCAA was regulated back then the way it is today.
Source? Link?
I didn't see any NCAA violations in your posts for Wooden himself. So, you claim Wooden is dirty but claim Cal is the best of the best? His schools have had direct violations under his leadership. Wooden has hearsay implications and nothing direct. Also, Knight choked many players and then couldn't remember choking the one that caught him on video. I like Knight as a basketball mind but in today's world wouldn't let him near my basketball program.https://www.google.com/amp/s/thegru...basketball/john-wooden-wizard-dishonesty/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.la...p-0609-wooden-gilbert-20100609-story,amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...n-wooden-says-ucla-cheated-in-recruiting/amp/
https://archive.triblive.com/news/starkey-john-wooden-and-an-inconvenient-truth/
WWW is the new Gilbert but he has allegiance towards Cal and Gilbert had it towards UCLA and that's why it reflected towards probation under Brown.https://www.google.com/amp/s/thegru...basketball/john-wooden-wizard-dishonesty/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.la...p-0609-wooden-gilbert-20100609-story,amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...n-wooden-says-ucla-cheated-in-recruiting/amp/
https://archive.triblive.com/news/starkey-john-wooden-and-an-inconvenient-truth/
I didn't see any NCAA violations in your posts for Wooden himself. So, you claim Wooden is dirty but claim Cal is the best of the best? His schools have had direct violations under his leadership. Wooden has hearsay implications and nothing direct. Also, Knight choked many players and then couldn't remember choking the one that caught him on video. I like Knight as a basketball mind but in today's world wouldn't let him near my basketball program.
And you think coach Cal is the best of the best? You criticize Wooden but praise Cal and for what? His issues at every school he has coached minus Kentucky as of now.If you honestly clicked any of those links and came away with anything other than UCLA is the most corrupt program of all time, you’re either:
A) ignorant
B) can’t read at a second grade level
In all those articles, there’s dozens of admitted NCAA violations that if occurred today UCLA would be wiped off that map.
-UCLA players admitting to taking impermissible benefits from Sam Gilbert for over a decade. One UCLA player says, “inside the lines we listen to Coach Wooden, off the court Sam Gilbert”. Another UCLA player describes getting paid for every point or rebound he scored.
-Wooden himself (after he retired) admits to having “tunnel vision” and “trusted Gilbert too much” basically acknowledging he turned a blind eye. That’s failure to monitor and promote a culture of compliance, a direct violation into today’s world.
-an NCAA field investigator is quoted as saying, “I could have put UCLA on indefinite suspension”, but reports that he was told to drop it because it would a black eye on the narrative that Wooden is Saint.
So you agree it was UCLA and not Wooden himself?If you honestly clicked any of those links and came away with anything other than UCLA is the most corrupt program of all time, you’re either:
A) ignorant
B) can’t read at a second grade level
In all those articles, there’s dozens of admitted NCAA violations that if occurred today UCLA would be wiped off that map.
-UCLA players admitting to taking impermissible benefits from Sam Gilbert for over a decade. One UCLA player says, “inside the lines we listen to Coach Wooden, off the court Sam Gilbert”. Another UCLA player describes getting paid for every point or rebound he scored.
-Wooden himself (after he retired) admits to having “tunnel vision” and “trusted Gilbert too much” basically acknowledging he turned a blind eye. That’s failure to monitor and promote a culture of compliance, a direct violation into today’s world.
-an NCAA field investigator is quoted as saying, “I could have put UCLA on indefinite suspension”, but reports that he was told to drop it because it would a black eye on the narrative that Wooden is Saint.
So you agree it was UCLA and not Wooden himself?
You twinks all bit on Indy16's misdirect. Wooden is not the topic here. He jumped on the Wooden deal as soon as I brought up WWW hoping he would not have to argue further about Calipari. The guy just likes to argue.
Neither coach can be justified in their use of an outside "supplier" directing kids to their program. It corrupts Calipari and invalidates the premise that he is the best of the best. Follow the argument and don't get pulled aside by a clever but blatant attempt to misdirect.
I don't know about the rest of you but this thread has just become troll bait.