Vince was sick then hurt then playing injured. He wasn’t 100% until CSF. And the stats are overwhelming if he plays well (15+ points), we win. The number one reason we finished the year at less than peak was Vince’s health.
Because yall needs stats to prove Painter is...
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Butler beat Villanova in January. You know that team we beat twice.
Yep I believe when PU was clicking, no one........no one could beat them. So there.
Great non-answer, nice way to avoid admitting you’re wrong.
Any coach that does not use the out-dated, 1970's weave motion offense. That style does not appeal to athletes that can play above the rim and creat their own shot.
No doubt we were playing well then and that win streak was a nice accomplishment. Now if we could develop some depth and get on a late March role some year instead of always sipping that injury, nicked up player, bad matchup, bad luck, bad draw whine.
I think we are all for that. Hell, PU is getting national attention for its "untimely" misfortunes. Possible witch doctor on the staff next season?
I will agree offense has to change to fit the players you have. This offense was not good for my son who can create offense for himself and his teammates. When he was in HS he played inside and outside on the block on the wing at the point and he made plays for himself and others on this team he wasn’t used the way he was recruited bcuz the offense was built around that senior class and it worked for them but never worked for my son so what changes he makes don’t no got different team next season
Thank you. an answer finally. Do you think Chris Beard would leave Lubbock where his family lives?
Agree, offense will change next year based on personnel, primarily because Carsen, Nojel and Haarms are much different than the outgoing seniors. Coach won’t completely scrap the system, but he ran much more iso with Hummel, E’twaun and JJ than he has over the last four years of post based offense. That would allow Carsen and Nojel to create for themselves and their teammates.
I know that your son will also bust his butt in the off season to show the type of improvement that Carsen did between his freshmen and sophomore seasons. Coach is not perfect but he and his staff are great at helping young players mature and make better decisions more consistently. I can’t wait to see Nojel create easy dunks for Tre, Dow and Matt on a regular basis next year.
South Dakota States head coach would be interesting. If Louisville didn't hire Mack, he would be another obvious answer. I don't want Cronin in the least bit. Kevin Ollie? Kevin Stallings? Bryce Drew? I don't think we should fire Painter yet, I'm just speculating.
I haven't read most of the replies . . . Painter haters or Painter defenders . . . but, please explain, what the hell does any of this have to do with us as fans???
Are we to gather our torches and pitchforks and march right over to Bobinski's office and demand he fire Painter?
Are we to take over the athletic department, and install our own "generals"?
What the hell does any of this accomplish, other than to show you have little or nothing to contribute to this forum until you can jump on here and complain about the results of others in the spotlight?
Are we to gather our torches and pitchforks and march right over to Bobinski's office and demand he fire Painter?
Are we to take over the athletic department, and install our own "generals"?
What the hell does any of this accomplish, other than to show you have little or nothing to contribute to this forum until you can jump on here and complain about the results of others in the spotlight?
Sorry, but I've read this nonsense a couple times from you. Do you really know what you are talking about when you say "outdated weave offense"? ...because that is not our offense. Our guards will use a weave for about 10-15 seconds to set up our opponent's defense, but we don't use the "weave offense".
This has nothing to do with attracting guards. What may affect guard recruitment is the perception that we base our offense around a center/power forward. I doubt this is true, but it is a possibility. I suspect you will appreciate Mr. Hunter who joins the team next year. He may not fit this straw man you wave about, but it is still all good for Purdue.
I understand and appreciate that you are not wanting Painter to be fired yet and are just throwing out some names to respond to the previous post. But to play devil's advocate - Mack will never leave Xavier for Purdue in a million years and we would be openly ridiculed for firing Painter in order to hire Stallings or Ollie. Why would Bryce Drew leave Vandy for Purdue - purely a lateral move and he has some great talent coming into Vandy next year. The South Dakota State coach would be a realistic candidate - those are the types of names we would be looking at. So we would fire a multiple B1G champ, multiple COY, four time sweet 16 coach to hire the South Dakota coach or someone at that level?
This illustrates the problem with actually looking at concrete names to replace Painter rather than just abstractly calling for him to be fired. It's easy to call for Painter's head - its much harder to come up with realistic candidates that would be an improvement.
Getting Mack or Drew would require Purdue to act like a Big Ten program and dish out the money. If they offered either 3.2 million, they would come. Stallings was really good at Vandy prior to going to Pitt. Ollie has a ring (but they weren't his players). At some point it's worth the risk to try and get over the hump. We can only run into the same wall so many times without trying to find another way around it.
Not buying they “Too Short” mantra. There are plenty of folks Carsens size playing well.
If the money was right.
Having said that, I don’t think Painter should be replaced. I do think he needs to continue to evolve if he cares about winning a title. You can’t box your team into only being able to win one way if you want to win a title.
Nojel was Underutilized from day 1 and the coaches inability to find ways to use his talents cost us later in the year. A kid who can play 1-4 on both ends...yet in 37 games Painter couldn’t figure out how to utilize him other than playing 6mpg as backup pg. Baffles me.
Doesn’t surprise anyone that basketball would baffle you.
You don't seem to get that all but 2 of the original B1G teams have been to the FF since Purdue last made it. Those teams are Iowa and NW.
Yes, but that was in January. Unfortunately the tourney is in March.
We haven't played well since January. We were very good then. February was not good and we escaped several games against none tourney teams and injuries had nothing to do with that.
Folks, we are not getting Chris Mack or Chris Beard regardless of the money. That is beyond laughable. Both of those schools have money and they could and would match any offer we could give. Plus, most non-Purdue fans would view those as lateral moves at best (regardless of how ugly and boring you think Lubbock is).
Remember the list of candidates the IU fans wanted last year - Brad Stevens, Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, Tony Bennett, Billy Donovan, etc. We all had a good laugh because those names were ridiculous. They were very fortunate to land a stellar mid-major coach. Not sure that we could have pulled Miller from Dayton. That statement will probably offend the sensitive types but it is true.
Remember the list of candidates the IU fans wanted last year - Brad Stevens, Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, Tony Bennett, Billy Donovan, etc. We all had a good laugh because those names were ridiculous. They were very fortunate to land a stellar mid-major coach. Not sure that we could have pulled Miller from Dayton. That statement will probably offend the sensitive types but it is true.
Uh oh. Now you're going to get the people who hate Purdue being known as a Defense First school all riled up.
Why don't you think anything will change? We will lose our starting point guard and also our best post players and will need to be more perimeter oriented on offense. So much will be changing. I anticipate Nojel will play 30 plus minutes next season and the offense will run through him and Carsen. Do you see this differently?
I'll be the one to ask since I know everyone on here is curious. All season when asked about Nojel potentially transferring you have said that you are just focused on winning the national championship (and rightfully so), and that you will worry about next year when the season ends. Now that the year is over, do you have an update on that situation?
*Feel free to say you guys haven't gotten that far yet, or tell me to shut up and it's none of my business*
No I don’t if this is the offense he still chooses to run than it does not help my son. He is a play making guard needs open court to create. He’s great in ball screens he’s great in transition not walking up the ball and running plays than standing in a corner standing around on the perimeter. He can play in the post he was recruited bcuz of his offensive and defensive versatility and he was never put in many other positions besides playing point. Nope won’t change
Honestly... I'm surprised IU didn't go after him. Coached under Knight, which may be why they didn't, but he's far enough away from the situation that I think he would have made their fan base happy. Would love to have him at Purdue and I'm guessing he winds up at a basketball school soon.
My son concentrating on school finishing strong and will continue to stay in the weight room and working on his game till school ends than come home and it’s all work on his shooting and training with a few nba trainers who lives in Chicago that’s gonna work with him all summer. That’s our plan right now
Really? I'll be shocked if he's there more than 2 years. No tradition.... and it's a FB school. Basketball is something they do to pass time until football starts. He's to good of a coach to stay.
He is from Texas. Went to Texas Tech basketball camp growing up. His kids live close by. And he has stated TT is his dream job and when he took the job said this is the happiest day of his life. Guess I could be interpreting it wrong though.
LOL!!! You really hit the nail on the head there....was just stating the same thing not ten minutes ago with a few friends....
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