...Nothing against Rutgers and know their coach is moving things along. Just not use to seeing them win in the B1G yet...but congratulations. My bracket busted already...lol!
Be Honest Now...Who Expected Rutgers Over OSU Tonight?
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I still can't understand how osu is so bad. They have talent, several recruits that I believe Painter wanted. Matta has shown over the years to be a pretty good coach. What is it?
It is shocking how osu mailed it in. I figured Marra would retire there but there has to be some coals under that seat now. They haven't been scary since sullengers team
Times have changed. It's been nearly 10 years now since Oden, Conley, Jr. and company led OSU to the national title game and five years since Sullinger, Buford, Craft, Deshaun Thomas and company made it to the Final Four. I think Matta will get one more season, but if they miss the NCAA's for a third straight season, he'll probably be asked to step down.
I didn't, but that foul called on OSU with .3 left in the half pissed me off. OSU was minus 4 (1st Half), and up by 5 at the time. Then Rutgers hits the two free throws.. urghh... About as bad as Virginia holding the ball at half court with 37 seconds left and a 12 point lead. The spread was 9 1/2. After the shot clock expired with them just holding the ball, then they proceeded to let Pitt shoot an uncontested 3 with with a couple of seconds left on the clock.. ughh...
IF Tommy survives in Bloomington I could see him and Matta both being gone at the end of next year. Matta's boys seem to have just quit on him and he doesn't really seem to be too inspired to fix it. I think he looks like he's as done as they do.
It is very obvious that there are team chemistry issues on O$U this year. The talent is there to be far better.
Well, the weird thing is this has plagued them for multiple seasons now. Last year, a bunch of freshman left after they got pissed they didn't get more playing time. Four of the five 2015 class transferred - in basically one year. I know we've seen a class 'disappear', but it usually is over time - and we haven't seen those kinds of numbers.
I don't know what the deal is. The weird thing with Matta is he is not old by any means - he's only 49.
Pure speculation on my part, but it seems like offensively once Sullinger left, first with Thomas, then D'Angelo Russell, and now Lyle and crew.....it's just based on individual abilities to break-down your man.....and not much flow. I don't have a sense of what they're trying to do on defense either. Plenty of athletic wings.....and I think Tate could be a really effective player in a different system. Also, without guys like Craft and Lighty.....doesn't seem to be much leadership.....but this is from a total outsider's perspective.
Losing Bates-Diop hurt, but there were still issues before that.
However, they were within one possession of knocking off the Boilers.
Also, with Meyer and the recent success of the football program, maybe there's less intense pressure from the boosters....but I would have to think if next year is another struggle, there may be much louder rumblings.
Matta has a clause in his contract that states if the IU or Purdue jobs come open he can interview for them.....
Will be interesting to see if that happens if IU opens up and that interest level.
I for one would not like Matta at IU, that could be a bad situation for Purdue recruiting the in state kids.
Will be interesting to see if that happens if IU opens up and that interest level.
I for one would not like Matta at IU, that could be a bad situation for Purdue recruiting the in state kids.
I think that is the key. Matta's OSU teams were always really good on D, but the trend hasn't been good the last 2 years. Last year OSU ranked 43 in KenPom AdjD, and this year they rank 97. Those are 2 of the 3 worst defensive seasons of his 13 yrs at OSU. Like you said, he still has good athletes, but they don't seem to be buying his message for whatever reason.
Non-rhetorical question: After last few years of health issues would IU even consider Matta in the mix?
That's interesting. I'm surprised the OSU brass went for that. I can kindof see Matta's interest in Indiana. But why would he single out the Purdue job? It's a fine program, no doubt, but it's not the easiest B1G program to recruit.
I mean maybe I'm missing something, but you seem to be spreading this "rumor" that Matta has health issues which would affect his ability to do his job. As far as I know, he has a bad back from a botched back surgery - which happened 10 years ago, not recently as you suggest - and he has not missed his job duties. Am I missing something?
I know there's one dramatic recruiting story about what an opposing coach said - but people keep talking about this like there's this massive, big secret about his health?
I am simply talking about Matta's back issues. As someone with chronic back pain issues I am only sympathetic. Does that mean Matta can no longer Coach- of course not. But it is easy to see he is in serious pain simply watching him coach games. Trust me, it only gets worse with time....If I were an AD looking to hire a long term coach it is simply a factor that would weigh heavily in my decision process.
Usually, I don't comment on such things, but the Ohio State game cost me. It was the 3rd team of my 3 team parlay. So, that foul with .3 seconds cost me quite a bit. I went from winning the 3 team parlay with .3 seconds left, to pushing on that game, to losing on those two free throws. I was pretty upset about the Ohio State game.
Don't know much about coach contracts. Do most stipulate that they cannot interview? How would coaches get other jobs other than being fired if they are banned from interviewing with other schools? Seems odd.
Most require that the current school would need to consent to the interview....and often that consent can be withheld for any reason. That provision just eliminates the consent.
There's usually nothing precluding a representative (agent) from gauging interest....sometimes there are specific limitations on what can and cannot be done directly or indirectly......regardless, while employed, the coach will be expected to devote his/her full-time attention to the duties and responsibilities of his coaching position.
These exceptions are negotiated based upon the perceived leverage at the time of the contract.....and how good a negotiator each side has, obviously.
Going way back....remember Lou Holtz @ Minnesota had the Notre Dame out, which of course he exercised. Personally, if I'm the AD or School administrator, I would never want to agree to those types of provisions....but, some schools don't have as much of an option.
