7/17, 56 yards

[HUD628]

3.3 yards per attempt, he was not sacked once, not really pressured at all. Two big drops. A bail out PI on a badly thrown deep ball, and a miss on what was going to be a 50 yard gain or even a 97 yard TD.

You can’t win with this QB play and the OC not finding him easy throws to gain yardage. We definitely have a WR problem with Edrine now out a while, and CJ Smith may never play a snap for us, so there is no speed. But Harrell has got to come up with something in the short to intermediate area to help move the ball. The OL is fine and the backs are good.

We obviously have issues containing the edges on D, but those guys are just hung out to dry by the offense. I don’t want to here a peep about the defensive scheme tonight.

 

[Rodeopepper]

I thought Walters needed to cut bait on Harrell last year lest they meet the same fate. Now Walters has to double down on a bad bet and it will cost everyone another year. This is exactly why you don’t hire a coach without a staff or a damn strong coaching tree.

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

I thought Walters needed to cut bait on Harrell last year lest they meet the same fate. Now Walters has to double down on a bad bet and it will cost everyone another year. This is exactly why you don’t hire a coach without a staff or a damn strong coaching tree.

Not saying ole Harrell shouldn't be axed, but I'd like to see what this offense looks like with a consistent QB who can drive the ball down field. Usually you see a QB change to see if you can get a spark. Not sure if these coaches are with it enough to try it though. Walters seems stubborn, and Harrell seems really slow.

Then again, the other 2 QBs may blow as well.

 

[purduepat1969]

3.3 yards per attempt, he was not sacked once, not really pressured at all. Two big drops. A bail out PI on a badly thrown deep ball, and a miss on what was going to be a 50 yard gain or even a 97 yard TD.

You can’t win with this QB play and the OC not finding him easy throws to gain yardage. We definitely have a WR problem with Edrine now out a while, and CJ Smith may never play a snap for us, so there is no speed. But Harrell has got to come up with something in the short to intermediate area to help move the ball. The OL is fine and the backs are good.

We obviously have issues containing the edges on D, but those guys are just hung out to dry by the offense. I don’t want to here a peep about the defensive scheme tonight.

Yeah, 350 yards of rushing against a team that doesn't pass. Lets not talk scheme though. The offense was moving the ball in Q4 and the defense found a way to collapse. This was a total team effort toward failure...

 

[Wolegib]

I could not understand in the blow out loss to Notre dame that we didn’t at least give our second string some reps. Are they trying to protect his red shirt status?

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

I could not understand in the blow out loss to Notre dame that we didn’t at least give our second string some reps. Are they trying to protect his red shirt status?

CRW said he wanted the starters to get live reps in against good competition. Remember they played ISU which was essentially air and then had the off week. In theory, i didn't have an issue with it. However, Card completely sucked that game andCard doesn't have that ability to shake off a slow start and then get hot.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

They used to call our offense Basketball on Grass. I guess we can call it now Football in Concrete.

 

[PaBoiler78]

They used to call our offense Basketball on Grass. I guess we can call it now Football in Concrete.

Football on grass ( the other kind)

 

[PaBoiler78]

I could not understand in the blow out loss to Notre dame that we didn’t at least give our second string some reps. Are they trying to protect his red shirt status?

the backup is Browne

 

[Wolegib]

If you are losing by 50 or winning by 50, there is no need to keep your starters in the game.

 

[Wolegib]

Remember RUDY!

 

[SKYDOG]

If you are losing by 50 or winning by 50, there is no need to keep your starters in the game.

Maybe they were being punished for a lack of effort. Coaches were letting the starters play it out so the final score was all on them . And if anyone got hurt doesn’t look like a problem replacing them as the team will lose with them or without them.

 

[HUD628]

Yeah, 350 yards of rushing against a team that doesn't pass. Lets not talk scheme though. The offense was moving the ball in Q4 and the defense found a way to collapse. This was a total team effort toward failure...

The offense was given the ball on the OSU 28 by the defense like 2 minutes into the game, and the QB gave it right back. Then a pick 6. This offense was responsible for a 10-14 point swing in a negative way right at the start. The QB had 1 completion for a gain at halftime. He really stepped it up in the 2nd though, completing 5 for 24 yards.

The defense was ok in the 1st half despite getting completely screwed by the offense. Lost a couple guys to injury and fell off in the 2nd. It’s tough when your offense gives points to the opponent and then does nothing until down 17 late in the game.

 

[Bippus33]

3.3 yards per attempt, he was not sacked once, not really pressured at all. Two big drops. A bail out PI on a badly thrown deep ball, and a miss on what was going to be a 50 yard gain or even a 97 yard TD.

You can’t win with this QB play and the OC not finding him easy throws to gain yardage. We definitely have a WR problem with Edrine now out a while, and CJ Smith may never play a snap for us, so there is no speed. But Harrell has got to come up with something in the short to intermediate area to help move the ball. The OL is fine and the backs are good.

We obviously have issues containing the edges on D, but those guys are just hung out to dry by the offense. I don’t want to here a peep about the defensive scheme tonight.

Not a peep! Giving up 30 plus points to OSU had nothing to do with a poor defensive scheme........Not a peep!
F off fool.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Not a peep! Giving up 30 plus points to OSU had nothing to do with a poor defensive scheme........Not a peep!
F off fool.

esp after scoring drives to seize momentum, twice in the 2nd half we score 2 td's and try to make a comeback but the D just gets mowed

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The offense was given the ball on the OSU 28 by the defense like 2 minutes into the game, and the QB gave it right back. Then a pick 6. This offense was responsible for a 10-14 point swing in a negative way right at the start. The QB had 1 completion for a gain at halftime. He really stepped it up in the 2nd though, completing 5 for 24 yards.

The defense was ok in the 1st half despite getting completely screwed by the offense. Lost a couple guys to injury and fell off in the 2nd. It’s tough when your offense gives points to the opponent and then does nothing until down 17 late in the game.

This defense sucks. 40 minutes of possession and 341 yards rushing given up to a not very good Oregon State team.

A week after 66 points and 362 yards rushing given up to a meh ND team.

And even if you think the offense is worse, Walters is responsible for that too.

 

[purduepat1969]

The offense was given the ball on the OSU 28 by the defense like 2 minutes into the game, and the QB gave it right back. Then a pick 6. This offense was responsible for a 10-14 point swing in a negative way right at the start. The QB had 1 completion for a gain at halftime. He really stepped it up in the 2nd though, completing 5 for 24 yards.

The defense was ok in the 1st half despite getting completely screwed by the offense. Lost a couple guys to injury and fell off in the 2nd. It’s tough when your offense gives points to the opponent and then does nothing until down 17 late in the game.

I'm not arguing the debacle of the first half. What I am saying is that the defense collapsed when the offense finally did come alive. And so it's a total team failure.

 

[Old Gold n Black]

Remember RUDY!

He is a bit old at 76. But hey, maybe we could lure him in with some NIL money. He might actually add some pop to the defense.

 

[HUD628]

I'm not arguing the debacle of the first half. What I am saying is that the defense collapsed when the offense finally did come alive. And so it's a total team failure.

It was. But I am just so disappointed in the offense. I firmly believe if they had done what they should've early on, we'd have won that game. There were a couple big drops, but the QB was just terrible, and the OC isn't getting him anything easy to help. Being terrible on offense was the number one thing that could not happen with this team, and here we are.

 

[pboiler18]

It was. But I am just so disappointed in the offense. I firmly believe if they had done what they should've early on, we'd have won that game. There were a couple big drops, but the QB was just terrible, and the OC isn't getting him anything easy to help. Being terrible on offense was the number one thing that could not happen with this team, and here we are.

The defense showed a pulse a few times but you could also argue the offense did too with Mock and Loves good running.

The issue with the defense is a lack of consistent fundamentals and any awareness of what the other team is doing. Any and every other team will feast on our D in the run game on the edges. We do t and can’t adjust.

Having a few bright spots doesn’t make a good D. It’s consistent performance that does and we aren’t close to having it.

If we switched tomorrow to a 5-2-4 and went to a traditional 2 high look and played more zone this defense would be immediately better. Won’t happen though.

 

[qazplm]

The offense was given the ball on the OSU 28 by the defense like 2 minutes into the game, and the QB gave it right back. Then a pick 6. This offense was responsible for a 10-14 point swing in a negative way right at the start. The QB had 1 completion for a gain at halftime. He really stepped it up in the 2nd though, completing 5 for 24 yards.

The defense was ok in the 1st half despite getting completely screwed by the offense. Lost a couple guys to injury and fell off in the 2nd. It’s tough when your offense gives points to the opponent and then does nothing until down 17 late in the game.

Yeah most of this was on the offense IMO.

Holding a team to 10 pts in a half is outstanding for a defense, eventually the defense broke down and fell apart but if the offense wasn't so disjointed they aren't out there for so long.

The rushing attack was banging and Card didn't face a lot of pressure so it points me to:

Card was bad. Whether he let the fluke INT rattle him or what I don't know but he was inaccurate all game and seemed antsy in the pocket to me.

The receivers were bad. I didn't see a ton of separation and at least 2 critical drops.

The play calling was bad. You're gashing them on the ground. Your passing game isn't working. Pound the rock.

 

[bonefish1]

I'm starting to think this is more on Harrel than on Card. There's no way Card has become that bad. It is possible he's not making the right reads, but it's the OC's responsibility to call plays that put him in a position to make high % throws or check out of a play if he sees something different at the line.