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is it better to keep TKR at 4, his best position with RB backup and Caleb/Berg 5?

Small ball fun at times, but puts two guys out of position

Feeding TKR like he’s ZE isn’t winning against good teams. Need to work outside in

Just thinking :)
 
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CMP has guys where he wants them given the injury he had in DJ and the talent deficit he sees in others.

Ideally CMP had TKR @ the 4 to start the season until DJ went down. I imagine that's what he goes back to next year.
 
CMP has guys where he wants them given the injury he had in DJ and the talent deficit he sees in others.

Ideally CMP had TKR @ the 4 to start the season until DJ went down. I imagine that's what he goes back to next year.
And he would like to do it this year, but another in the 5 needs to improve the situation, A lot of posters didn’t want to see Trey at the 4 last year. Could you imagine this team had Trey just now starting to get minutes on the court?
 
is it better to keep TKR at 4, his best position with RB backup and Caleb/Berg 5?

Small ball fun at times, but puts two guys out of position

Feeding TKR like he’s ZE isn’t winning against good teams. Need to work outside in

Just thinking :)
Regardless of position, Trey is their best ‘go to’ scoring option. He needs to get better against doubles and they need to find a way to get him the ball when teams are scheming to take it away.

The amount of fouling that was allowed yesterday was ridiculous, but that’s going to happen outside of Mackey. This team needs to get used to it and embrace the physicality.

I don’t know what the right lineup is but the triumvirate needs to play better when they’re the center of attention without Zach and everyone else needs to step up and make teams pay when they ignore them. Colvin and Heide combining for 2-9 on open looks from three isn’t going to cut it against solid competition.
 
is it better to keep TKR at 4, his best position with RB backup and Caleb/Berg 5?

Small ball fun at times, but puts two guys out of position

Feeding TKR like he’s ZE isn’t winning against good teams. Need to work outside in

Just thinking :)
Would be helpful if Myles and Cam drove the ball effectively and elevated in the lane under control
 
Regardless of position, Trey is their best ‘go to’ scoring option. He needs to get better against doubles and they need to find a way to get him the ball when teams are scheming to take it away.

The amount of fouling that was allowed yesterday was ridiculous, but that’s going to happen outside of Mackey. This team needs to get used to it and embrace the physicality.

I don’t know what the right lineup is but the triumvirate needs to play better when they’re the center of attention without Zach and everyone else needs to step up and make teams pay when they ignore them. Colvin and Heide combining for 2-9 on open looks from three isn’t going to cut it against solid competition.
The triumvirate has such a Roman feel! 😁
 
Regardless of position, Trey is their best ‘go to’ scoring option. He needs to get better against doubles and they need to find a way to get him the ball when teams are scheming to take it away.

The amount of fouling that was allowed yesterday was ridiculous, but that’s going to happen outside of Mackey. This team needs to get used to it and embrace the physicality.

I don’t know what the right lineup is but the triumvirate needs to play better when they’re the center of attention without Zach and everyone else needs to step up and make teams pay when they ignore them. Colvin and Heide combining for 2-9 on open looks from three isn’t going to cut it against solid competition.
Agreed and don't expect Colvin and Heide to shoot as poorly moving forward. They should have shot more yesterday but didn't after missing first couple. Both are capable shooters and need to shoot when open to spread out the D more. I'm sure when the coaches review the film they will tell TKR to be more aggressive and make sure he's doubled before trying to pass.
 
I agree that Colvin and Heide can get shots off when guarded. And they must shoot more and obviously make more to help Renn from the double teams. I believe both FEEL they are on a leash, and I also believe Painter wants them to shoot more. They both need more confidence
 
Tkr has to play the 4 if purdue going to have the season they want put furst at center burgess didnt play yesterday he has to play burg has to play 10 to 12 minutes a game
 
is it better to keep TKR at 4, his best position with RB backup and Caleb/Berg 5?

Small ball fun at times, but puts two guys out of position

Feeding TKR like he’s ZE isn’t winning against good teams. Need to work outside in

Just thinking :)
Berg and Furst combined for 1 Reb in 18 minutes. I don’t think personnel was the issue. The tapping of balls back is frustrating. Guys need to go up strong with both hands.
 
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Berg cannot guard a quick big guy like Payne yesterday…too slow afoot in cement. Furst is an enigma…promising freshman year…then downhill since. This problem at center will plague Purdue all season. Our season went “south” when Danielsen( got it spelled right this time) was injured.
 
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Let Burgess play significant minutes at the 5 …and develop. Anyway…we will lose a number of games during the season without a true center with the current lineup.
 
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I don’t know how (or if) they get there but the more games they play the more I’m convinced that this team’s ceiling lies in those two being able to hit open shots and put the ball on the floor.
It is hard for me to grasp, but until the three ball was fully entrenched, that ability was a staple of play
 
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I don’t know how (or if) they get there but the more games they play the more I’m convinced that this team’s ceiling lies in those two being able to hit open shots and put the ball on the floor.
Neither of them have shown the ability to dribble against pressure. That type of ball handling skill takes a long time to develop and if it's not part of their game by now, not sure we'll see much of it.
 
Berg cannot guard a quick big guy like Payne yesterday…too slow afoot in cement. Furst is an enigma…promising freshman year…then downhill since. This problem at center will plague Purdue all season. Our season went “south” when Danielsen( got it spelled right this time) was injured.
No you didn't.
 
Would be helpful if Myles and Cam drove the ball effectively and elevated in the lane under control
I will ask you the questions I asked on another thread. It would be helpful. Do they have the handles to do so against the better teams, with good to great athletes?
 
It is hard for me to grasp, but until the three ball was fully entrenched, that ability was a staple of play
Which is crazy because it should actually be easier to penetrate against hard close outs and defenses focused on not allowing uncontested threes. As someone else posted, I think it’s a comfort / confidence issue with those two.
 
I will ask you the questions I asked on another thread. It would be helpful. Do they have the handles to do so against the better teams, with good to great athletes?
Not the person you asked, but it depends upon the situation. Both have decent but certainly not great handles. If you’re dribbling into traffic against strong defenses, that’s not good. If you’re getting iso coverage because teams are focused on taking away the big three and closing out hard on threes, their handles are more than good enough, imo.
 
Berg cannot guard a quick big guy like Payne yesterday…too slow afoot in cement. Furst is an enigma…promising freshman year…then downhill since. This problem at center will plague Purdue all season. Our season went “south” when Danielsen( got it spelled right this time) was injured.
Daniel Jacobsen
 
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Let Burgess play significant minutes at the 5 …and develop. Anyway…we will lose a number of games during the season without a true center with the current lineup.

I think Burgess needs some minutes too. Time to see what he has. He's short armed some bunnies, but I'd like to see if that is because he simply rushing it due to limited PT and jitters. Would love to see him get 10-15 mins consistently and get some confidence.

Not sure what happened to Furst. Long gone are those flashes he showed early in his career. He doesn't even look to shoot 3 anymore either. Sitting behind Edey/Gillis killed his confidence and maybe his passion for the game with it. Still hoping he can somehow turn it around.....

Berg is a good 3rd/4th center to have on roster at this point in career. He might get better down the road, but right now he is too timid out there and is slow to the ball. Braden doesn't even look to throw him the ball when he's in there.
 
I am concerned teams will start just sitting on TKRs left shoulder. Haven’t seen it discussed, but outside of doubling, AM had guys that just sat on his right shoulder. He does not appear to have any ability to go left, so doing that took him completely out of the game. I think he needs to to work on that, and fast, or else he’s too easy to read and defend
 
Berg cannot guard a quick big guy like Payne yesterday…too slow afoot in cement. Furst is an enigma…promising freshman year…then downhill since. This problem at center will plague Purdue all season. Our season went “south” when Danielsen( got it spelled right this time) was injured.
While I agree with this, I’m hoping CMP will add a 5 from the transfer portal for next season. Payne would make this team a title contender this year. I’m hoping we get a Payne or Wolf (from Michigan) type player for next year.
 
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