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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Ok. I retract my ceiling statement and will say that I will wait until he plays some real NBA games before predicting his future, or saying if the Pacers (along with other teams) made a mistake by not drafting him.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Oladipo cant create off the dribble? Holiday's job is to come in and run the point not go out and score a bunch of points. Carsen found the perfect team for his skillset.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    What's a step above a role player and below an All-star appearance? For me there is nothing there.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Your first response to me was asking if I watched the elite 8 game, and if I knew Virginia had two first round draft picks. I think we are getting the wrong context of each other's posts, because it's text. I meant no offense in my responses.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Agreed. It's too early to project his career.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    I wasnt being an ass. Literally all I said was pump the brakes, and I wasnt even talking to you.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Again, I said that saying the Pacers made a mistake by pointing out his SL performance is dumb, because SL success doenst always translate.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    No I'm talking proven NBA guards. Hunter and Jerome haven't played a minute in the NBA.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    LOL lose all the patience you want. Hunter and Jerome are not proven NBA guards. I'm talking about when he has to face proven NBA guards night in and night out. Steph, Dame, Kyrie, ect.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    I know he for sure played really well in SL. Josh Selby and Kyle Andersen have won the SL MVP recently, and their careers haven't been good. With the addition of Carsen, the Celtics are now my 2nd favorite team, so I hope he sticks around for a long time. I agree he will play a role this year.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    IMO, you can be a starter and a role player. I'm saying I think there is little chance he makes an All-Star team which is again imo, the step above a role player.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    I did watch the Virginia game. That has little to do with the discussion. Carsen was a GREAT college player. His ceiling is a role player in the NBA, though. People are getting way ahead of themselves predicting Carsen's future, and saying how bad of a move it was by the Pacers (the thread...
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    You are right, he isn't playing against a bunch of NBA role players. NBA role players are much better than the players he is currently playing against. Most of the guys in summer league will be hard pressed to make an NBA roster. Since he has been playing against the "cream of crops" for the...
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Correct, because they are playing Waters there. Carsen will be a perfect backup PG, because Marcus Smart can facilitate for the 2nd unit. Carsen just needs to come in and get buckets like Patty Mills.
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    Again, he's going against players that he played against in college. He's great against those types of players as we saw for 3 years. He will have the opportunity to prove he can do it against real NBA players next season. It's too soon to say the Pacers made a mistake by not taking him. I'm...
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    Pacer fan my whole life.

    As has already been discussed, what position does he play on the Pacers? At PG they already have Brogdon and Holiday. At SG they have Oladipo and Lamb. At Boston he has a chance to be the backup PG. Additionally, Summer League success doesn't always translate (Josh Selby). He is playing...
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    Edwards lighting it up again

    They just said on the broadcast that he is in contract talks with the Celtics.
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    Bracketology

    We already seem to be asking where minutes will come from with our 4 centers. I highly doubt those minutes are limited even more by playing Wheeler at the 5. I would have a hard time believing that one of Haarms, Williams, EB, or Dow are not on the floor at all times.
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    Starting lineup

    Drop Eastern from what?
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    Starting lineup

    It's not just one grad transfer. It's the majority of grad transfers across college basketball. Dopirak's percentages still aren't based on any concrete data. He's still just guessing and giving his opinion. Torvik's rankings are largely based on last years' production.
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