pboiler18 said:

I remember your “we only have X guys” argument from before the 2021 season.

It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.

Get a good coach. Build a good staff. The rest will come.

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The argument was “only x guys have PREVIOUSLY PROVEN to be big ten starters. Then a bunch of guys showed up. But that wasn’t Brohm’s 2nd year and those guys weren’t true sophomores.

Brohm left a mess for Walters

Walters in turn is not ready and made some stinky hires

Brohm’s mess will also not do the next coach any favors

Purdue79fan said:

CBS Sports agrees this team is top 10 worthy. Braden & Fletch are committed to making it back to the FF and winning this time. This team can be special by March. My personal expectation is Sweet 16/Elite 8 this year and NC in Indy next year! Talent is already there and trust Painter/Staff to shore up any needs between now and next summer.

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I agree with the assessment that if this team stays healthy they should be in a position to make real noise in the NCAAT. I get the excitement of potentially bringing everyone back for '25/'26 but it's likely that Braden, Fletch and Trey will be the big three in both years. If they're really good, I don't know why they couldn't make a FF run this year.

SKYDOG said:

That is true, but thinking back about Fauci and his follies, there were so many things untrue to believe.

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Fair!

There were multiple precautionary measures that turned out to be unnecessary. That doesn't mean that they were disingenuous.
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Also, most legal immigrants of all backgrounds are appalled at the Biden/Harris open border policy.

BNIBoiler said:

The COVID vaccine manufactures and the scientist have said from the get go that there is a certain percent effectiveness. Therefore, since that percent effectiveness is not 100% some folks will still get COVID. Similarly with the seasonal flu. Some folks that get vaccinated with the seasonal flu vaccine still get the seasonal flu.

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That is true, but thinking back about Fauci and his follies, there were so many things untrue to believe.

Katscratch said:

This is not a ‘liberal vs conservative’ argument.

Science does not know nor declare a political philosophy.

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Right science doesn’t know a political philosophy, but the people who believe all science or all things told are differentiated many times by political affiliation.

Katscratch said:

This is not a ‘liberal vs conservative’ argument.

Science does not know nor declare a political philosophy.

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But large groups of scientists do, especially when they have economic motivations to do so.

Katscratch said:

This is not a ‘liberal vs conservative’ argument.

Science does not know nor declare a political philosophy.

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Science may not, but scientists definitely have political ideologies.

CBS Sports agrees this team is top 10 worthy. Braden & Fletch are committed to making it back to the FF and winning this time. This team can be special by March. My personal expectation is Sweet 16/Elite 8 this year and NC in Indy next year! Talent is already there and trust Painter/Staff to shore up any needs between now and next summer.

bonefish1 said:

I love how libs scream "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!" but then in the next sentence, claims that a man can get pregnant. Or that someone can change their gender just because they feel like it. Where's the science in that?

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SKYDOG said:

In my experience most liberals not all believe in everything they are told. Many conservatives don’t take everything at face value and make their decisions on what’s been told and their own research.

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This is not a ‘liberal vs conservative’ argument.

Science does not know nor declare a political philosophy.

I'm not touching the Purdue game. I just get a sense something weird could happen (for the better).

I love Wisc -7 over Northwestern (that's a lock)
Rut -5 vs UCLA
ND -8.5 vs GT
USC -7 vs Maryland

Boiler Buck said:

Don't know about that?

But what I have seen on Jacobsen so far makes me excited to see him contribute this year. Watching these frosh grow and blend their talents to a great team adds fun to what should be another great year of basketball. Kinda another great subplot.

I know the Paint Crew is going to go nuts over his blocked shots, and I hope we see a lot of that this year.

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It will be interesting to see how DJ compares to Matty H, both in year one and as his career progresses. Matt played a lot early (17 mpg as a freshman), but that was largely driven by the fact that IH was the only other true big on the team and he could only play a certain number of minutes.

I'd guess that DJ won't be as impactful as Matt in year one because the overall depth of talent at the 4 and 5 is significantly better than it was for the '17/'18 season. I'd expect and hope that DJ's development and upside are much higher than Matt's. I liked Matty H. as a player but he never really progressed past being a nice complementary piece who was an impactful shot-blocker and good on slips to the basket off of pick and rolls but was pretty average in most other areas.

bonefish1 said:

I love how libs scream "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!" but then in the next sentence, claims that a man can get pregnant. Or that someone can change their gender just because they feel like it. Where's the science in that?

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In my experience most liberals not all believe in everything they are told. Many conservatives don’t take everything at face value and make their decisions on what’s been told and their own research.

BoilerPride08 said:

Reading the little pre-season tea leaves we've been getting from the overseas trip and practices I'd be shocked if Lombard isn't starting - at least initially. Could also see Harper getting the start simply because she's the most experienced post but quickly getting replaced by McCarthy or Puryear. But I also have Jones/Swanson/Bass in the starting lineup.

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I thought about including Harper initially, but I haven't heard anything about her all offseason. I guess lombard is one of, if not the most athletic girl on the team. She should play a good amount regardless of if it's starting or coming off the bench. Let's hope she can continue this supposebly great shooting from the offseason.

BB62 said:

Because you know more than the scientists. You dismiss science not because you understand the subject better than they do........obviously........but because it doesn't agree with your politics.

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I love how libs scream "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!" but then in the next sentence, claims that a man can get pregnant. Or that someone can change their gender just because they feel like it. Where's the science in that?

New Pal Boiler said:

Some of us are smart enough to think for ourselves, instead of just blindly following Big Government “Scientist” Hacks.

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Because you know more than the scientists. You dismiss science not because you understand the subject better than they do........obviously........but because it doesn't agree with your politics.

Purdue95Grad said:

There’s certainly nothing wrong with questioning things. It’s one of the ways we make advancements. But you’re arguing against proven science because someone told you to, and you got no further than that. You and others on here are at the point where you know the grass is green, but someone will say it’s yellow and by god, it’s now yellow in your mind and that’s that.

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Certain types of grass are yellow at various times of the year. You obviously are not following the science of agrostology.

Your belief that grass is only green shows how narrow your knowledge base is, consistent with your dem-lib views.

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@SKYDOG : "My grammama smoked two packs a day and lived until she was 98. And she died when a piano fell on her head while she was moving furniture. Therefore, smoking isn't dangerous. Dumb-ass scientists didn't know what they were talking about with smoking!'

You do realize that Americans were dying of COVID by the hundreds of thousands until the vaccine was widely distributed, and then the deaths faded to practically zero.

I mean, how anti-science, conspiracy theory-believing, naïve, and ignorant do you have to be to not believe that scientists come to conclusions based on objective evidence, and that vaccines are a godsend to the human species?

And when a doctor or scientist issues precautionary or preventative advice? That is exactly what it is; a best-practice based on best available evidence, not an infallible panacea.

Is this even a topic for discussion in America in 2024?!!? Is this in part because the MAGA mindset has inculcated a belief in their followers to look for a conspiracy theory behind every obvious and evidence-based conclusion?

Holy crap.
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The mindset isn't to believe in conspiracy theories, it's to not believe everything you're told. It's to gather data and question what you're being told if something doesn't seem to quite line up.

Why? Because someone screwed up and there was a lot of CYA and alternative motives occurring.

And since you brought up the death numbers, I'm assuming you remember that there was a lot of questioning around what the actual numbers were based on evidence? For example, there were people killed in car accidents, who it turned out happened to also be Covid positive, who were then counted as a Covid related death.

When that information is leaked, yeh, I'm going to start questioning things.

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@SKYDOG : "My grammama smoked two packs a day and lived until she was 98. And she died when a piano fell on her head while she was moving furniture. Therefore, smoking isn't dangerous. Dumb-ass scientists didn't know what they were talking about with smoking!'

You do realize that Americans were dying of COVID by the hundreds of thousands until the vaccine was widely distributed, and then the deaths faded to practically zero.

I mean, how anti-science, conspiracy theory-believing, naïve, and ignorant do you have to be to not believe that scientists come to conclusions based on objective evidence, and that vaccines are a godsend to the human species?

And when a doctor or scientist issues precautionary or preventative advice? That is exactly what it is; a best-practice based on best available evidence, not an infallible panacea.

Is this even a topic for discussion in America in 2024?!!? Is this in part because the MAGA mindset has inculcated a belief in their followers to look for a conspiracy theory behind every obvious and evidence-based conclusion?

Holy crap.
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