KentuckyBoiler said:

Hopefully, we will be able to get Klare and Dillon back.

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Those are the only ones that are a big loss.

Ihaveswag29 said:

Still very much early days. I think Braden is the best PG in the conference still next to Baldwin. There are not really any top tier shooting guards in the Big 10 that come to mind, so I can see 1st team all big ten go to Braden and Baldwin. Think Harper should be second team.

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Yes agree. They might both make 1st team?? But if not 2nd team there if voters choose it for him and Baldwin, for 1st team. Voters likely put Harper on one of top 3 teams, but he is extremely impressive early.

One thing for sure, I wouldn't trade Smith for any of them and there are several that impress me including Thornton.

Boiler Buck said:

UCLA has the Mack the Mack Truck who will terrorize us going to the hole with abandon. You will know him soon enough. He's a very good guard, not great, but against our interior D, he might look phenomenal.

I still like Smith as top 1st or 2nd team ALL B10. Loyer, bless his heart, D drags the pair down as pairing the two on D is a problem....Smith average, Loyer below average. Still love his deadly 3 pt shooting and his ability to draw fouls by being a floor mop....and is why CMP plays him.

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Still very much early days. I think Braden is the best PG in the conference still next to Baldwin. There are not really any top tier shooting guards in the Big 10 that come to mind, so I can see 1st team all big ten go to Braden and Baldwin. Think Harper should be second team.

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Gonzaga and Auburn

bonefish1 said:

True to what word? I think Painter probably tells his current guys the same thing he tells portal guys: You earn your starting spot and PT every week.

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Yes. Exactly. He rewards guys who play hard, know his system, know where to be and who give Purdue the best chance to win. If they do that, they will play over transfers. Unless that transfer is the better option. Lance was a perfect example of all that, but even he was surprised he became a starter.

bonefish1 said:

He's a good player and a very good 3 pt shooter. but he's pretty one dimensional on offense and really bad on D. He would have be the position where the portal could have provided a bigger, stronger, more athletic guy who a still shoot and score other ways.

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How is he really bad on defense?

And who are these guys you speak of in the portal that would line up to play at Purdue with no guaranteed playing time that probably would be featured as the 4th-6th option?

TwinDegrees2 said:

Checking the portal, he doesn't have a lot to bring with him. Out of 17 of his players entering the portal, only seven are left. I'd think it's easier for a coach to win at Mizzou and UNLV than at Purdue.

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As for the portal, his plane touched down a day ago and he probably spent most of today addressing our team and current gaps. It’s day 1 so we have zero clue how he will go about it. Gotta give it time and it’s just nice to have a coach in place rather than fall behind. UNLV was horrendous prior to his arrival and he took them to back to back bowl games for the first time in program history.

awthomps said:

Im just not sure who was out there, and I read a lot of lists from the “experts”. The reach coaches that came up were Iowa State and Arizona State and neither was leaving for Purdue in its current state. Perhaps that’s what you mean by settling and I get it. However, among the small schools we got a guy that has a resume that’s a step above WKU coach that I’d expected AND I think that’s a good thing considering BoBos last off script hire

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Campbell comes up in every coaching search, every year for every team. Dude is not leaving Iowa State at this point I am not even sure a Blue Blood could pull him.

TwinDegrees2 said:

Checking the portal, he doesn't have a lot to bring with him. Out of 17 of his players entering the portal, only seven are left. I'd think it's easier for a coach to win at Mizzou and UNLV than at Purdue.

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Yes, the SEC is so much easier than the BIG and Mizzou is such a historically better program on top of it.

bonefish1 said:

I'm OK with the hire. I like that he has HC experience in the SEC, so the lights won't be too bright.
Would love to know who Bobo's first call was to? What call was Odom? Did we reach out to Campbell, Mullen, Kelly?

I believe Odom was in the $2M range at UNLV, I suspect we got him for....$5M? Hopefully he brings his staff and any players who can play in the B10.

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I thought I saw he was expected to be at $3.75m with the whole package. And there was some thought if he waited another year he might have some better options so I suspect it will be closer to $6m.

I don't think I felt like this when Hazel left as you could tell the team had talent. To be honest I don't care if everyone leaves the team and we start fresh. This year felt worse than any of the Hazel years. I always root for the players but being semi pros I just don't care that much anymore. They all stink. Start new.

BOILERGOLD88 said:

There is a short 45 second clip. Loved the way he presented himself. Short and to the point.

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Very reassuring...no mumblespeak, no over-the-top rah rah foolishness, no gimmicky name for the playbook.

Odom seems like he understands the enormity of the task and exudes a quiet, competent confidence that he is equal to it.

HarrysPostGame13 said:

I think he deserves more credit than that and wouldn’t call this settling. He took over two programs that were in bad spots and put them in the + side of the win column. So if anything he could help us get out of shitville. We are coming off of a 1-11 season. If in his first 3 years he does what he did at Mizzou 4, 7 and 8 wins….I’d say that’s remarkable progress given the current state and schedules we have.

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Checking the portal, he doesn't have a lot to bring with him. Out of 17 of his players entering the portal, only seven are left. I'd think it's easier for a coach to win at Mizzou and UNLV than at Purdue.

Bippus33 said:

How could Walters hire an OC and DC that showed piss poor results on the field and expect to keep his job?? I thought that the DC was just as bad if not worse than the offense......

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With the DC, it was basically just a patsy to run Walters system. There was 0 difference in results when Kane called it vs when Walters called it. It schematically didn’t work without NFL guys seemingly at every spot. And if you have that, ANY defense should work at this level.

The “bump” we got in 2023 results wise when we won a few was more to do about level of competition and had nothing to do with better or elevated play.

To come in here and run the same defense for 24 games that never worked and lacked the talent to make it successful was the biggest downfall. We never had chances in half these games because we were never set up to stop our opponents.

The OC was serviceable at times but lacked invention, lacked in game awareness and his scheme did t put anybody in a position to shine at the WR or CB spots. Double down with poor fundamentals and a lack of discipline throughout the program you get 4-8 and 1-11 coming off of basically our 2 year program high water mark. An epic and colossal failure.

Chi-Boiler said:

I guess I'm curious if the players who have entered the portal were present for this introduction. I mean, they're still at Purdue, so I guess they should be, right?

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guess Breedlove wasn't impressed, but he seems to like moving on to different teams

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There is a short 45 second clip. Loved the way he presented himself. Short and to the point.

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This gives me hope that maybe, just maybe we will complete a game without dumb penalties.

BoilerAndy said:

Nope. It's his job to bring in players that fit Purdue's culture. He could have brought in additional players, but chose not to.

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The portal offers more mature, experience players that have a resume of performance at some level in college. It offers a coach a better understanding of the "physical skills" a player has. Why is the player in the portal? Is money in play...playing time...chance to be on a bigger stage or a personal challenge? As others have noted, you can get the skills and a player than not only doesn't fit the culture but is a detriment to it. You can get a bad fit out of high school as well, but more than likely not have a freshman that is as crucial to the void to be filled in the portal. Use to be with Juco's the word was it usually took two years for them to be as productive as desired...many times an academic challenge it seemed. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but I like 4* players (certainly take the right 5*s) that want to win and will work to do so that are not selfish in what they personally want to achieve in a certain timeline. Lance was HUGE! Cherished the chance to play at Purdue...no NIL talk, just a chance to compete at the highest level and bringing joy in doing it. Great locker room guy, great fill of a void and great culture. Others are out there like Lance, but most are not. Find the right ones...great, but there is always more to it than the skills you see...and to a degree that can happen down both paths.

KentuckyBoiler said:

Are we also getting his OC Marian?

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I haven't heard yet, but the UNLV AD was pretty non-committal when questions were asked about him and was not automatically named the interim coach. The AD is looking at getting a head coach with experience.

Chi-Boiler said:

I obviously don't know how scheduling works for these types of things, but introducing the new football coach at 9am on a Tuesday morning at Mackey with nothing else surrounding it seems a little, I don't know, weird? Are you going to get several thousand people there? I doubt it. Granted the deal and travel likely couldn't have gotten done in time for the basketball game yesterday, but couldn't it be timed better?

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Especially during FINALS week. But, I suspect this is one of many public appearances the coach will make over the coming months. It does allow students, staff, and fans a chance to hear the coach ASAP post team meeting. I have to believe he is in the works for the next MBB game and possibly the WBB WVB. If I were advising him, you want to get out in front of the public as much as possible to drive excitement. He has to win over hearts and mind!

Woodsa said:

HC Odom brings the bucket home next year. Not sure it would go to Mackey given the new football complex built for Purdue sports next to Ross Ade.

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It will be nice add a block P to it again. Seeing JMU on it this year is unbearable.

HC Odom brings the bucket home next year. Not sure it would go to Mackey given the new football complex built for Purdue sports next to Ross Ade.

Dandelion1972 said:

Wow, that didn't age well, did it?

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WTF are you talking about??

1. I posted that on March 23 2023
2. CMP signed Lance Jones out of the portal on April 9th 2023

So you tell me, did he embrace the NIL/portal or not? Without Lance Jones we don't go to the FF period. No idea what your point was of bringing up a post that far back, but even then, you might have taken the 1 minute it took to look up the date of the post and when we signed Jones. So, our ceiling was raised by signing Jones, just like I had suggested.

Whether CMP can be effective long term not going into the portal will be seen as we go. My guess is this year was an unusual one where he didn't sign any transfers. I bet he follows the 2023 model more often than not. Sign a transfer or 2 and try to stay as old as possible.

Not that I should have to defend myself after all the years I've been on here, but for the record I've been a CMP supporter all along. He's not perfect, but I've never called for anyone else to be our coach.

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I obviously don't know how scheduling works for these types of things, but introducing the new football coach at 9am on a Tuesday morning at Mackey with nothing else surrounding it seems a little, I don't know, weird? Are you going to get several thousand people there? I doubt it. Granted the deal and travel likely couldn't have gotten done in time for the basketball game yesterday, but couldn't it be timed better?

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I think it’s exam week too so with the little energy the students have I doubt they’d show out in large numbers.

Per Woody, Purdue cornerback Kyndrich Breedlove will enter the transfer portal. Breedlove had the highest coverage grade of any Purdue cornerback that played more than four games.

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