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Purdue at Minnesota: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

tjreese
Gman544 said:
Wins away even against bad teams can provide a window on progress or lack of progress. Furst was a help on the boards and on defense. His scoring was gravy. Heide and Colvin struggled shooting but the 9 rebounds,4 assists and 2 steals show they remained engaged and were an improvement. Shots will fall eventually.
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Caleb brought some fight that was needed...
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Purdue at Minnesota: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

tjreese
Purdue Grad in Texas said:
They were pretty darn good last year, just no chance being in Connecticut's region, although they gave them a really good battle for the first 19 minutes, then the wheels fell off. Really good team in '22 as well, but I thought the best chances were with the Dosunmu team right before that in '21......until I picked them. :)

Underwood is maybe a little polarizing and might rub some the wrong way, but he is a really good coach, IMO. Think he has double-digit conference wins the last five years.....something like that.
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A newbie might find him fiery, but I think he just simmers now compared to when he started. One transfer he got as an all state honorable mention player from Tipton at 6'9" that was at Huntington and then Evansville that I don't recall seeing play in high school

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Ben Humrichous (3) F - 2023-24 SENIOR (AT EVANSVILLE) Named to the Missouri Valley Conference All-Newcomer Team and tabbed as MVC Scholar-Athlete of the Year Started
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Colvin and Heide yikes

BoilerNGold013
Colvin is starting to remind me of Anthony Johnson a little bit in terms of his shooting issues. AJ was a fantastic high leveler shooter/scorer in high school up in Chicago and I believe a 4-star top 75 recruit for Painter but he was never able to translate his scoring to high major college competition. His shot, while beautiful, was too slow for the athletes he faced in college and the opponent could recover too easily. Colvin's shot is beautiful but as I watched his summer highlights and early season highlights, his stroke appears to have a lot of little moving part when dialed in which leads to a slower release.

I think he is feeling that in games now where people are recovering faster to him. His mechanics are messed up and have progressively gotten worse since the Ole Miss game. You can tell his misses before the ball leave his hands due to his legs and arms being so out of synch from what his tunned in stroke looks like.

I hope he is able to find his stroke again before the end of the season and uses the offseason the find something that can work and also develop handles to get to a pull up.
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

Indy_Rider
POTFHBTFU said:
They didn’t dominate them . I’m fact georgia outscored ND 10-3 for 39 of the 40 minutes as ND scored 17 of them in a 60 second segment of game time. Heck georgia had more offensive yards than ND by 50+. Georgia had a lot of unfortunate plays, fumble before half, dropped pass, dumb penalty on 4th down, even a walkon QB on street clothes getting in the way. And until the final drive Georgia had about 100 more offensive yards. How is that being dominated?

Meanwhile until garbage time ND had about 250 more yards than Indiana.

But don’t let facts get in the way.
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Simplify it for them.

With a 1:30 to go in both games, what was the score.
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

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Indy_Rider said:
And yet Georgia was in the game until almost the end with their backup QB.

Indiana was out of it at opening kickoff and scored two meaningless touchdowns against the backups to make it seem closer than it was.

So yes, the cartoon is correct and only people who don't understand sports don't get it.
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They were so far out of it they even punted in the 4th to avoid further embarrassing themselves. The game was over at that point and even the coach that wins knew it.
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Purdue at Minnesota: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

tjreese
Boiler Buck said:
All road wins are good wins. But Braden makes any game winnable. An amazing player. B10 player of the week given the last 2 games imo.

Love that Furst got going and C & H found a way to help off the bench. MN, even at the Barn in my opinion is not a good team. They look like they might be the cellar dweller of the B10 this year.

Loyer was so fun to watch last night. He was just having fun and is just a crazy good shooter. But that last shot was nuts.
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True that any road win is good, but this was a first for Purdue this year on the opponents home court. I think that lack of confidence was a bit apparent last night early. I thought after the Toledo game that Caleb needed more minutes as he has the potential "this year" to help this team get better and thought Caleb did well. As I said above, this was a good answer to the physical play...something the minny asst coach was demanding of is players for Purdue to answer the physical play. Only thing missing was the physical play with more pressure. This was a pressure game and the pressure was on Purdue to win and it didn't start well for Purdue and yet they kept grinding until others could help Fletcher and the foul situation was not as concerning and so as a team I think more players felt they contributed which was good for the morale. True that Minny day in and day out is not one of the better teams in the Big this year, but on a given night anything can happen and was starting to happen until Purdue circled the wagons and was not to be denied. Next is Northwestern and hopefully Caleb takes another step and Myles finds that two dribble into the lane when hard closeouts happen...
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

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Bank Shot Podcast said:
It was 20-10. It was also 20-3. Notre Dame still dominated Georgia and it happened in the same way they did Indiana. By controlling the line of scrimmage. Georgias offensive line was overpowered just like Indiana's. It has actually been theme in games all playoff. Penn State vs SMU and Boise State. Ohio State vs Tennessee and Oregon. That's been the difference in all of those games. Shows the importance of a great offensive line.
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They didn’t dominate them . I’m fact georgia outscored ND 10-3 for 39 of the 40 minutes as ND scored 17 of them in a 60 second segment of game time. Heck georgia had more offensive yards than ND by 50+. Georgia had a lot of unfortunate plays, fumble before half, dropped pass, dumb penalty on 4th down, even a walkon QB on street clothes getting in the way. And until the final drive Georgia had about 100 more offensive yards. How is that being dominated?

Meanwhile until garbage time ND had about 250 more yards than Indiana.

But don’t let facts get in the way.
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Gene Keady was underpaid

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Smokestack91 said:
Purdue Salaries (1987) - found this from the Exponent in 1987 while I was looking for something else. A decent salary back then, but basketball coaches have come a long way since. To think that Gene made less than Fred Akers and significantly less than Steven Beering! I imagine that ratio for basketball coaches:college presidents has now flipped (and then some) for major conference schools. Also, love the ad to watch the Purdue-Louisville football game at Quincey's. That was my first football game as a student. We ended up tying the Howard Schnellenberger coached team.
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I think that's what they made from the state. Athletic dept was self funded at Purdue. If you look now it probably says CMP makes 250k or something.
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

Indy_Rider
Katscratch said:
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And yet Georgia was in the game until almost the end with their backup QB.

Indiana was out of it at opening kickoff and scored two meaningless touchdowns against the backups to make it seem closer than it was.

So yes, the cartoon is correct and only people who don't understand sports don't get it.
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Personnel

Boiler Buck
GeistBoiler said:
Obviously Heide and Colvin are struggling right now, but my question is, for the rest of the Season, should we ever see them both on the court at the same time? They are very similar players that can contribute by defending, hitting open 3's, and rebounding. Neither is capable of ball penetration or hitting 3's consistently right now, so it hurts the offense when they are both on the court together. I think having only one of these 2 on the court at the same time will allow them to get out of their slump a lot faster and improve our offensive efficiency.

My opinion of this team is unchanged in that it is good team that is enjoyable to watch and support, but they are too flawed to be a top 15 team. If we lower our expectations a bit in this Post Edey transition year to what many programs would be thrilled with, I think everyone will consider a 20+ win Season a significant accomplishment for this program.

Not writing off this Season as we could certainly pull off a run this year if everyone gets hot, but for next year, I hope we will be looking to bring in a stud 5 and 3/4 hybrid wing in the transfer portal. I am sure that Jacobson can contribute, but counting on him to solidify our starting 5 next year coming off injury is too much of a gamble to take in what needs to be a big turnaround year. From the little I saw of him, he no doubt would have helped, but I don't think he would have been the savior. As much as Painter likes to develop talent, I think he owes it to Braden Smith to at least go after some big names that would have to be salivating over the chance to come in and play with him for a year.
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Yes good team. Crazy fun to watch at times, but going to take some losses.

But sure, we need to add 2 starter quality guys next year. Think I will enjoy this year (&next) and watching Braden, while I can though. Be sad if he doesn't get more starter help next year. Imo...with the potential benefits being another FF as a possibility.
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All Five Conference Champs Lost Their First Game In The Playoff

Indy_Rider
Wolegib said:
I guess they were not deserving of consideration for the cfp . Or you could say they were just as deserving as IU was.

I believe it’s time to cut IU some slack and give them their props. They had a good year. Were they on the same level as PSU and OSU? No. But they were just as good or bad as several of the other teams in the cfp.

The CFP should never have been expanded to 12 teams and conferences like the mountain whatever, pac 12 and acc should never have been given automatic seeds. The overall seeding was terrible!

As for IU, I believe they could have beat Boise at, Arizona st and smu.
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They got obliterated by ND.

The only reason the score was close is because they scored two meaningless touchdowns at the end against ND's backups.

Georgia was in the game pretty much the entire time while playing their backup QB.

They final point differential in the IU game doesn't tell the story of that game at all as it was a beatdown from opening kickoff and the outcome was never in doubt.

Some they IU crowd can stop with the, "We only lost by 10" comment because that 10 was not nearly as close as the 13 Georgia lost by. And if people don't understand that, they shouldn't talk about sports.
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Gene Keady was underpaid

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Smokestack91 said:
Purdue Salaries (1987) - found this from the Exponent in 1987 while I was looking for something else. A decent salary back then, but basketball coaches have come a long way since. To think that Gene made less than Fred Akers and significantly less than Steven Beering! I imagine that ratio for basketball coaches:college presidents has now flipped (and then some) for major conference schools. Also, love the ad to watch the Purdue-Louisville football game at Quincey's. That was my first football game as a student. We ended up tying the Howard Schnellenberger coached team.
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Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting!
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Open border for 4 years….

BB62
tjreese said:
Kennedy says we will learn the truth implying that has not happened for a few years

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Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy threatens to ‘chase’ feds ‘like they stole Christmas’ if they won’t tell ‘truth’ about New Orleans attack

Sen. John Kennedy cryptically threatened to “chase” federal officials “like they stole Christmas” to reveal the truth about the attack.
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About what the last few years? Just say it. What is it? Well of course he won't say it cause there's nothing to say. This is a sitting US senator taking political shots at the media, implying past info is being withheld, and playing the trump tough guy by threatening investigators if they don't come forward with an explanation of what happened. Throws a little red meat, preemptive conspiracy out for you to swallow. The attack isn't 24 hours old and he's railing about what he's gonna do if authorities don't tell us everything.......which could be months down the road.

He checked all the trump boxes. Made it about himself, attacked the media, and tossed a conspiracy or two for good measure. Right up your alley.
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