krazychicagod said:

We moved down in kenpom after the win with those final 60 seconds going from 10 to 5.

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It’s December - we’ve beaten Bama, Ole Miss, NC State, and a one loss extremely talented Maryland team today - these games make you better in March - could care less what we are now

msfboiler3 said:

Conference champs shouldnt be locked into 1 seeds. Texas and Penn State got huge breaks the way the seeding played out.

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As long as you have byes, they Absolutely have to be Conference Champions. I’m so sick of hearing about how “tough” an overrated conference that doesn’t even win 60% of their non-playoff bowl games & refuses to go on the road OOC is…

cnotez624 said:

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

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Just look what IU's coach did with eight players from James Freakin' Madison and a MAC QB.

Chi-Boiler said:

Current odds to 'ship...I'm fairly positive Oregon's number went up following the release, which is a little surprising because it seemed fairly certain how their road would be. But I'm pretty sure I saw them at +300 this morning. I'm also positive that Indinia was at the bottom of the odds this morning (with Alabama included) at +8000. Again, not sure what would have made them jump.

Georgia +300
Oregon +315
Texas +350
Penn St +500
Ohio St +500
Notre Dame +1000
Tennessee +3300
Arizona St +4000
Indinia +5000
SMU +5000
Clemson +6000
Boise +7000

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Indiana should be a +50000. They must have missed a 0.

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

MetMyWifeAtHarrys said:

For whatever reason, it almost appeared that Maryland was content to even be in the game during last 5 mins or so...like 'whatever we will prob lose but we did well' sort of a vibe. Very good team, but not sure they have the killer instinct yet. Braden was reason we willed to a W, but just felt like MD was the better team overall.

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The battle between TKR and Queen was very interesting. I wish TKR could pass out of the post every now and then. It's becoming a black hole in there. And sometimes Smith and TKR think they're the only players on the court. Even though we didn't have a ton of turnovers, there was a bad one mid-second half that was primarily due to that issue.

Chi-Boiler said:

If I remember right, they had a very iffy touchdown in the back left corner of the south end zone that won the game. But I'm getting old.

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Just looked at the box score and Missouri won on a walk-off FG. But I know there was a questionable call in that end zone at some point.

Chi-Boiler said:

The thing about it was that this year, the B1G was incredibly top-heavy, and the Indinia schedule has a LOT to do with that top-heaviness. The top 4 have a combined 4 losses going into the B1G title game, which kinda doesn't count. The top 4 in the SEC have 8 losses, again not counting Texas yesterday. That difference is huge.

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I hear you, Chi-B....I'm just with TC.....don't think a conference should have more than two.....regardless if they eventually expand to the Big 64. That's also the problem with 12 - you'll run out of what many would think are deserving teams. Penn State also had a fairly favorable schedule.

krazychicagod said:

Ugh on that finish. Obv win is all that matters but our close score wins have given us a joke of NET ranking of 29 so far before this win.

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Go away

HUD628 said:

If I remember right they were beating us by 2 scores, then Lock threw a real bad INT and we got a fluke tipped ball completion to Hopkins that went for like 85 yards. Comeback fell short. Blough threw for damn near 600 yards in that hame

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If I remember right, they had a very iffy touchdown in the back left corner of the south end zone that won the game. But I'm getting old.

Current odds to 'ship...I'm fairly positive Oregon's number went up following the release, which is a little surprising because it seemed fairly certain how their road would be. But I'm pretty sure I saw them at +300 this morning. I'm also positive that Indinia was at the bottom of the odds this morning (with Alabama included) at +8000. Again, not sure what would have made them jump.

Georgia +300
Oregon +315
Texas +350
Penn St +500
Ohio St +500
Notre Dame +1000
Tennessee +3300
Arizona St +4000
Indinia +5000
SMU +5000
Clemson +6000
Boise +7000

For whatever reason, it almost appeared that Maryland was content to even be in the game during last 5 mins or so...like 'whatever we will prob lose but we did well' sort of a vibe. Very good team, but not sure they have the killer instinct yet. Braden was reason we willed to a W, but just felt like MD was the better team overall.

Chi-Boiler said:

On a bullshit call at the end if I remember.

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If I remember right they were beating us by 2 scores, then Lock threw a real bad INT and we got a fluke tipped ball completion to Hopkins that went for like 85 yards. Comeback fell short. Blough threw for damn near 600 yards in that hame

northside100 said:

Is Braden actually just a good but not great player? So far he’s laid two eggs when really good defensive teams have focused on taking him out of his game. Maybe that’s all that he has.

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Braden is Great enough for me!

Chi-Boiler said:

The NET is a sorting tool for SOS. A ranking by itself is not used for seeding. The important thing today with respect to the NET is that Maryland came in #11. Therefore it's a Quad 1 win. If they drop below 30, it becomes a Quad 2 win.

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Do you have a source for this? I do not believe this at all but will admit to being wrong if you show me. I know exactly ho2 the quad system works and the more quad 1 and 2 wins you have and better your record vs them, the higher your NET ranking. To say the quad wins matyer but your ranking doesnt is the same thing as saying your kenpom metrics matter but your ranking based off those metrics doesnt matter.

That is to say thats an oxymoron.

Our NET will jump big time I think with this win as it had maryland 11th going into the game. Our kenpom has been updated and we dropped. Had the lead stayed 10 we would have slightly improved.

OBviously the win is what matters but that last 60 seconds was unfortunate with maryland hitting 2 chuck 3s to close it out and us missing some fts.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

The cartel won't do this, but what they really should do is have the multiple at-large bids from the same conference play each other as a structural tool. Big Ten teams definitely got some favorable votes, IMO.

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The thing about it was that this year, the B1G was incredibly top-heavy, and the Indinia schedule has a LOT to do with that top-heaviness. The top 4 have a combined 4 losses going into the B1G title game, which kinda doesn't count. The top 4 in the SEC have 8 losses, again not counting Texas yesterday. That difference is huge.

Braden has to take more shots. We need him to be aggressive. The assists will come but he needs to be a 15 and 10 guy every night.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

I think Purdue will also move up in KenPom ratings - this was a good pairing 15 v 17.....offensively nice with a 52 pt. second half.....tempo might move up slightly too.

Really good tests coming up next two Saturdays.

Purdue finished with 8 turnovers (pretty good save that bad stretch to start the 2nd half) - Maryland had been forcing close to 17......also closed the gap on the glass - with their frontcourt, you'd take a stalemate most days if some shots are falling.

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We moved down in kenpom after the win with those final 60 seconds going from 10 to 5.

Opening spreads on my site, I thought they all came out high, but I think I'm subconsciously not thinking of them as home games because we've never had this scenario before:

Notre Dame -8.5 vs Indiana
Penn State -8.5 vs SMU (already went up)
Texas -10.5 vs Clemson
Ohio State -6.5 vs Tennessee (came down)

TC4THREE said:

Agree. I still cringe that any conference gets 4 teams in. IMO, 3 is too many. Makes the conference season in the Big Ten and SEC worthless. I'm not so focused on getting the 12 best teams. If 4 of the top 12 teams are in one conference, too bad. That's what conference seasons are supposed to be for.

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The cartel won't do this, but what they really should do is have the multiple at-large bids from the same conference play each other as a structural tool. Big Ten teams definitely got some favorable votes, IMO.

RossMackey said:

This is what good teams do: flush a bad outing, and take charge at home…

Hail Purdue 😎

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The irony Im sure is lost on you being that your entire attitude on here is that of a "Karen" to a T. Yell at and belittle anyone and everyone that doesnt talk or post to your liking.

YOU are the literal Karen of this board, calling others a Karen. Hilariously out of touch

PaBoiler78 said:

thank goodness it was a home game

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We are gonna have some struggles on the road with teams that can turn you over but learning in December is key for March. It’s all good

SaratogaBoiler1 said:

And IMO they are gonna stay a Quad 1 -

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Probably, but they have to make up for the fact that Willard is their coach.

Jaycee79 said:

I hope he can do better than Browne.

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Do we really know what Ryan Browne can do? He had an awesome half against Illinois and then got tossed into a handful of hopeless situations the rest of the way.