PaBoiler78 said:

I believe Odom would over rule that concept

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Yeah but going 10 on 11 truly proves your bona fides as a defensive guru.

msfboiler3 said:

Conference champs shouldnt be locked into 1 seeds. Texas and Penn State got huge breaks the way the seeding played out.

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Oregon got jobbed big time. Likely OSU than a Cotton Bowl game in Dallas verse Texas.

bonefish1 said:

That was my main complaint with Painter not going to the portal this year. There’s some holes that could have been filled.

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He for sure needs to hit it in the offseason, at the least a quality big 4-5 position needs to be brought in. It could mean the difference in a good team or one that can go to a Final 4.

krazychicagod said:

Whether u think that or not NET and kenpom are the 2 most used metrics for seeding. They do matter for that reason

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Purdue will be ok. Maryland is a good team. If we can get a 3-6 seed in Midwest region, that’s all that matters.

RossMackey said:

I’ve urged him for months to stop snacking on paint chips— to no avail.

Looks like he got ahold of a batch with an especially potent lead content….

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Months? He’s been posting garbage for years.

Carlboiler said:

BRo how is he going to bring someone from the portal when they lost a recruit and they had 5 freshman

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That's his job to figure out. Instead of getting 5 freshman, save 2-3 of those spots for portal guys who can step in and help immediately.

boilermaker75 said:

I hope not. We want our safety in the same time zone as the rest of the defense.

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I believe Odom would over rule that concept

SaratogaBoiler1 said:

Huge foul for the spread!

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Sure was!

Chi-Boiler said:

Opening spreads on my site, I thought they all came out high, but I think I'm subconsciously not thinking of them as home games because we've never had this scenario before:

Notre Dame -8.5 vs Indiana
Penn State -8.5 vs SMU (already went up)
Texas -10.5 vs Clemson
Ohio State -6.5 vs Tennessee (came down)

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I'm a little surprised the OSU-Tenn one isn't closer, but the others make sense.

Roeder said:

Hmm...I haven't seen enough, but doing this after Penn St loss probably leads to some bias. I'd have Purdue lower after that egg.

Top gaurd teams in B1G in no order:

Ohio State
Illiniois
Rutgers (Harper alone puts them up there)
Oregon
Penn St
Wisconsin


Not having a 3rd consistent gaurd hurts Purdue. Neither Braden or Fletch have been consistent either and both have become less aggressive it seems. They are also average defenders.

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And yet Purdue has played by far the hardest schedule in the BT, 8-2, 3-2 vs Quad1, 2 losses on true road games, against top 5 rated Marquette, and another 1 against very underrated Penn St.! How does a team win with just average guards who can't play defense. Who on Purdue has made them a top 10 team? The above numbers are after that Penn St. egg. Stats are based off a players offense and defense! Braden alone will make Purdue one of the best college backcourts! To not put Purdue in the top 6 of the BT is _______!

Hope it works out better than the past 3 defensive minded coaching hires. I felt certain Bobo would atleast look for a sharp offensive mind.

IronChefBBQ said:

Because if you’re 4th in your conference, you don’t deserve a chance to play for the National Championship. And, yes, I’d have Zero problem with shrinking the basketball tourney back to the size that it once was…

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64? Yeah no doubt, but you're still not going to put a cap on how many teams from XYZ conference get in. The best teams should make it.

Chi-Boiler said:

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.

www.ncaa.com

Also:

What is NET?
The NCAA Evaluation Tool (NET) is a rankings system used by the NCAA Tournament to assist in seeding teams for the NCAA Tournament. The system is based on game results, strength of schedule, game location and net offensive and defensive efficiency.

Is the NET the only tool used to seed teams?
No. If it were then predicting a bracket ahead of time would be very easy. NCAA Committee members are given NET as one of their tools to help them seed teams. Committee members will also look at the data points that make up the NET rankings and other metrics to help seed teams.


The key really with all of it is, what has the committee always said: Play a good schedule, play games on the road, and win. That's the point of the quads. Also, take a look at last year's NET rankings from the end of the regular season. Why didn't everyone's darling, Indiana State, make the field? Because they were 1-4 in Q1 games. Yet their NET was 28, ahead of 15!!!!! teams that actually DID make the field.

Bracketologists :: NCAA Tournament Resumes with NET Rankings.

bracketologists.com

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We have learned that playing a tough schedule - as long as you are competitive - not only helps you with seeding but helps you in March

Chi-Boiler said:

I don't think you can put a limit on it. If the 4 best teams are in the same conference, why limit them from getting in? We don't do that in the greatest tournament ever played, do we?

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Because if you’re 4th in your conference, you don’t deserve a chance to play for the National Championship. And, yes, I’d have Zero problem with shrinking the basketball tourney back to the size that it once was…

Chi-Boiler said:

The thing about it was that this year, the B1G was incredibly top-heavy, and the Indinia schedule has a LOT to do with that top-heaviness. The top 4 have a combined 4 losses going into the B1G title game, which kinda doesn't count. The top 4 in the SEC have 8 losses, again not counting Texas yesterday. That difference is huge.

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Yeah, but top to bottom the BT ALWAYS has tougher teams that play really hard and just make it so much tougher than other conferences. (tic)

pubill said:

Someone on here a couple days ago suggested this and maybe having Eden is what made him. I think he wrong.

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He played great today. Doesn't mean he always will. For the next 18 months, he will have that stigma that Edey made him better than he is. I don't disagree with the statement. Can he still be an AA candidate, POY candidate, and lead this team to great heights? Yes. But he's better with Edey than without him. No question in my mind.

pubill said:

Go away

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I’ve urged him for months to stop snacking on paint chips— to no avail.

Looks like he got ahold of a batch with an especially potent lead content….

msfboiler3 said:

glad to see smu come back last night because it was going to alabama out

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In Tuscaloosa coaches are being burned if effigy even as we speak. Maybe they can get a nice bid to the Bud Light bowl.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

I hear you, Chi-B....I'm just with TC.....don't think a conference should have more than two.....regardless if they eventually expand to the Big 64. That's also the problem with 12 - you'll run out of what many would think are deserving teams. Penn State also had a fairly favorable schedule.

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I don't think you can put a limit on it. If the 4 best teams are in the same conference, why limit them from getting in? We don't do that in the greatest tournament ever played, do we?

PaBoiler78 said:

also think it's a pretty good hire, had him higher than Helton, Monken, and Martin

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I breathed a sigh of relief that it wasn't Monken....

cnotez624 said:

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

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It looks like their starting QB is a Sr.
So, no matter what, Purdue will have a new starting QB next year.

krazychicagod said:

Do you have a source for this? I do not believe this at all but will admit to being wrong if you show me. I know exactly ho2 the quad system works and the more quad 1 and 2 wins you have and better your record vs them, the higher your NET ranking. To say the quad wins matyer but your ranking doesnt is the same thing as saying your kenpom metrics matter but your ranking based off those metrics doesnt matter.

That is to say thats an oxymoron.

Our NET will jump big time I think with this win as it had maryland 11th going into the game. Our kenpom has been updated and we dropped. Had the lead stayed 10 we would have slightly improved.

OBviously the win is what matters but that last 60 seconds was unfortunate with maryland hitting 2 chuck 3s to close it out and us missing some fts.

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Also:

What is NET?
The NCAA Evaluation Tool (NET) is a rankings system used by the NCAA Tournament to assist in seeding teams for the NCAA Tournament. The system is based on game results, strength of schedule, game location and net offensive and defensive efficiency.

Is the NET the only tool used to seed teams?
No. If it were then predicting a bracket ahead of time would be very easy. NCAA Committee members are given NET as one of their tools to help them seed teams. Committee members will also look at the data points that make up the NET rankings and other metrics to help seed teams.


The key really with all of it is, what has the committee always said: Play a good schedule, play games on the road, and win. That's the point of the quads. Also, take a look at last year's NET rankings from the end of the regular season. Why didn't everyone's darling, Indiana State, make the field? Because they were 1-4 in Q1 games. Yet their NET was 28, ahead of 15!!!!! teams that actually DID make the field - as at-large bids, not AQs.