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Deja Vu

Smith is the best point guard we have ever had. Loyer is one of the best shooters ever. TKR is playing great. These players would play for any team in the country. Smith would start for any team in the country.

The best we’ve ever had? No. Having seen both in person, I can say Braden Smith is much like but he’s not Billy Keller, the Indiana Mr. Basketball who also headed an NCAA finalist with an all-time leading scorer, then pointed the Indiana Pacers to three ABA championships. And neither is anywhere near the three-time consensus All-American guard who carried Purdue to the national championship and went on to win 10 NCAA championships inside 12 years as the best coach ever, Johnny Wooden.

Too many Boilermakers forget or don’t realize how brilliant their own history has been. First and last on the Moon and the Big Ten. The conference we founded.
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Any idea who Coach Painter is talking about?

It’s obvious which posters on this board have connections to the program and which posters have no clue.
Every team has a culture. And every fan of team thinks their culture is superior and unique to most other schools.

Purdue isn't a paragon of which only a handful of kids can play. It's also not a cesspool like some schools are for sure.

Each team needs to find players who will accept roles and fit team chemistry. That's not unique to Purdue. I'm sure Painter would do his best to find those players. I'm also sure those players are as likely to exist in the portal as they are out of high school.

I'm also sure that Painter isn't perfect in figuring that out. Catchings didn't come from the portal and yet turned out he wasn't a culture fit. It happens. No blame to Painter because again it's impossible to be perfect in assessing that.

I just think folks here have hyper moralized the portal as being filled with potential cancers because some don't like the very concept of the portal.

It's simply another source of talent. The same risks and benefits exist there as in high school recruiting. If a high school recruit appeared in the radar for next season that had a lot of talent people wouldn't be asking whose minutes they might take and maybe we shouldn't take them because we are "loaded."

Jones last season could have gone other places and he didn't come here guaranteed a starting role. He fit in just fine and yeah Heide or Colvin didn't start likely because of it. And turned out ok. If someone in the portal can make this team better and someone here plays less minutes the problem is what exactly?
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Any idea who Coach Painter is talking about?

And if Painter doesn't pull 2 guys from the portal, do you conclude that he isn't serious about reaching another FF? Or that he has no idea how to get there, but you know the way?
I would say that if Painter thinks he has a FF team for next year with the current roster, he's probably being a little overly optimistic. He, the fans, and talking heads know where the gaps are on this roster and where the portal could be used to immediately fill those gaps.

Any idea who Coach Painter is talking about?

Painter clearly disagrees. Even if you were right, which you aren't, convincing us will not change the reality that Painter is in charge and doesn't see things your way. Thankfully.
Painter's old school, which is fine. We'll see how the building/developing philosophy works versus using the portal to add key pieces. It's a combination of both that he is sort of embracing.

Any idea who Coach Painter is talking about?

If you pay a guy 7M and you miss the tournament or CFP, I’d say he wasn’t worth it
How are you quantifying that? Again, worth is subjective. I agree that if you build your team with NIL $ and you don't make the tourney, then that's a poor investment. But, if you build your team with NIL $ and paid mercenaries, and make the FF or the CFP, then it is probably worth it.

As someone who lives in SEC country

Oh they like him. Hell, he's in the national championship game. Of course they do right now. They weren't loving him after the NIU loss though. He will be as loved as he is successful.

My comment was that they (wife) did not like living in South Bend much from things I have heard. Might not mean much as I don't think they'd leave that job just because of that. Unless another big time opportunity comes along.
There's not much bigger than ND if you're winning.

Wow !!

I agree, and I believe that Wolegib would also be a good commenter if the voices in his head stopped screaming.
That outburst was confusing on many levels. Normally, he wants to take a contrarian stance on things and gets upset if people don't share his views. There are two people I find very interesting and enjoy reading and listening 1) Thomas Sowell 2)Jordan Peterson. Jordan would be the go to in trying to understand the outburst.

Deja Vu

I am slow to go with the "best evers" but they are all individually and collectively pretty damn good. I got Mount as best shooter, Dischinger as best forward and Smith maybe best PG but Parkinson was no slouch. Anyway this team is fun to watch as they ratchet up the defense and up the tempo.
I appreciate the Dischinger mention. He and GRob were probably the all-time best Purdue forwards. In the pros 7-0 Wilt Chamberlain once said that 6-7 Dischinger was the toughest player he ever faced.
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