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Deja Vu

A group that has the potential to lead Purdue to B1G or National Championships.

OK, I disagree with your disagreement. None of these guys were 5 Star recruits. All were drafted.
Yep bookmark it and revisit it. But first you should rewatch the highlight tape from last year and then put a checkmark next to your top sentence. Seems like you didn’t have any tv in that cave you were in during the 2023/24 season.
 
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What is “special” in your eyes?
This is a special group - standing out amongst your competitors.

JaJuan Johnson​

E'Twaun Moore​

Robbie Hummel​

 
This is a special group - standing out amongst your competitors.

JaJuan Johnson​

E'Twaun Moore​

Robbie Hummel​

AH, so special is personal achievements and not winning multiple B1G championships/a regionals/a f4 game and being NCRU.

Got it.
 
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This is a special group - standing out amongst your competitors.

JaJuan Johnson​

E'Twaun Moore​

Robbie Hummel​

Gonna have to strongly disagree on this one. I’ll take the special moments of winning the big ten and making deep tourney runs over any personal accolades. While those are nice, that’s not what I’ll look back on and smile about years from now.
 
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Gonna have to strongly disagree on this one. I’ll take the special moments of winning the big ten and making deep tourney runs over any personal accolades. While those are nice, that’s not what I’ll look back on and smile about years from now.
These achievements typically come with successful teams.

OK, so Smith, TKR and Loyer aren’t a special group because they haven’t achieved that. I’ll talk to you at the end of this season.
 
These achievements typically come with successful teams.

OK, so Smith, TKR and Loyer aren’t a special group because they haven’t achieved that. I’ll talk to you at the end of this season.
This makes no sense. Unless both sets of players were only playing in a 3 v 3 tourney.

Love the baby boilers and they were special. But so is this group...and so was last year's group and even the one before that (even if they lost in the first round).
 
TKR, Smith, Loyer is not a special group.
Not exactly. It "can", but doesn't require great college results. Some are young, athletic and have a very high ceiling that teams will draft on potential. I hope any Purdue player can play after Purdue, but my interest is how they do while playing for Purdue.
 
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Not my image so can't take credit for putting it together, still.. had to share.
Not sure how a discussion takes place about Deja Vu without some background noise from the past?

 
Junior year combined statistics:

Hummel/JJ/Smooge: 47.6 points, 17.8 rebounds, 5.5 assists,46.8% FG, 35.1% 3P, 76.8% FT

Braden/Loyer/TKR: 46.7 points, 12.7 rebounds, 13.5 assists, 51.3% GS, 44.4% 3P, 72.4% FT
TKR really bringing down that FT% haha...but apparently they need the personal awards and not the actual winning of championships and tournament games to be "special"
 
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TKR really bringing down that FT% haha...but apparently they need the personal awards and not the actual winning of championships and tournament games to be "special"
What's interesting is he listed their 4 year accolades, which is unfair because this group has only had 2 seasons to accumulate them. When you strip out their junior and senior year awards, it gets a lot closer:

JaJuan Johnson​

  • First-team All-Big Ten (2009)
  • Big Ten All-Defensive team (2009)

E'Twaun Moore​

  • 2× Second-team All-Big Ten (2008, 2009)
  • Big Ten All-Freshman team (2008)

Robbie Hummel​

 
Smith is the best point guard we have ever had. Loyer is one of the best shooters ever. TKR is playing great. These players would play for any team in the country. Smith would start for any team in the country.
I am slow to go with the "best evers" but they are all individually and collectively pretty damn good. I got Mount as best shooter, Dischinger as best forward and Smith maybe best PG but Parkinson was no slouch. Anyway this team is fun to watch as they ratchet up the defense and up the tempo.
 
I am slow to go with the "best evers" but they are all individually and collectively pretty damn good. I got Mount as best shooter, Dischinger as best forward and Smith maybe best PG but Parkinson was no slouch. Anyway this team is fun to watch as they ratchet up the defense and up the tempo.
I’d say a PG who is on pace to break the schools all time assist record in 3 seasons plus having better stats in every category is probably the better pick over Parkinson, no?

Fletch is shooting almost 50% from 3 and second best shooter in the country % wise. OP said one of the best, not THE.

Tempo has finally started to improve. Prior to the new year it was actually slower than the previous.
 
I’d say a PG who is on pace to break the schools all time assist record in 3 seasons plus having better stats in every category is probably the better pick over Parkinson, no?

Fletch is shooting almost 50% from 3 and second best shooter in the country % wise. OP said one of the best, not THE.

Tempo has finally started to improve. Prior to the new year it was actually slower than the previous.
You have to learn to walk before you can run...
 
I am slow to go with the "best evers" but they are all individually and collectively pretty damn good. I got Mount as best shooter, Dischinger as best forward and Smith maybe best PG but Parkinson was no slouch. Anyway this team is fun to watch as they ratchet up the defense and up the tempo.
I appreciate the Dischinger mention. He and GRob were probably the all-time best Purdue forwards. In the pros 7-0 Wilt Chamberlain once said that 6-7 Dischinger was the toughest player he ever faced.
 
The guys on the bottom have more hardware to show for their time here, but…if the Baby Boilers got to team with Zach Edey, they’d have won multiple national titles.
Yes and the maturity difference as a result of the extra COVID years.
Probably a NATTY and no way a loss to a 16 seed.
 
Smith is the best point guard we have ever had. Loyer is one of the best shooters ever. TKR is playing great. These players would play for any team in the country. Smith would start for any team in the country.

The best we’ve ever had? No. Having seen both in person, I can say Braden Smith is much like but he’s not Billy Keller, the Indiana Mr. Basketball who also headed an NCAA finalist with an all-time leading scorer, then pointed the Indiana Pacers to three ABA championships. And neither is anywhere near the three-time consensus All-American guard who carried Purdue to the national championship and went on to win 10 NCAA championships inside 12 years as the best coach ever, Johnny Wooden.

Too many Boilermakers forget or don’t realize how brilliant their own history has been. First and last on the Moon and the Big Ten. The conference we founded.
 
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I appreciate the Dischinger mention. He and GRob were probably the all-time best Purdue forwards. In the pros 7-0 Wilt Chamberlain once said that 6-7 Dischinger was the toughest player he ever faced.

There are many who don't know how good Terry Dischinger was. He and Purdue were slightly overshadowed during his playing days with Ohio State and Lucas and Havlicek teams, but he averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in 70 career games - 55.3% FG and 81.9% FT. Still holds the Purdue single game record for FT's made @ 21.

NBA Rookie of the Year (63), 3-time All-Star.....among his many accolades.

Sadly, he passed away a little over a year ago - wish I could have seen him play in person, but I caught the end of his NBA career.

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