Not when it's the enemy and supporters of terrorism. Too bad we didn't just drop a few bombs on the whole protest parade.
Iran’s Response
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Trump has a chance to come out smelling like a rose on this. It would appear crisis has been avoided with zero harm done to the US after we took out their terrorist 2nd in command. Its looking like a best case scenario for us.
I look for him to thump his chest, declare victory and move on...
That's the same bullshit conservatives spouted in creating the Iraq War. If you don't support reckless military action then you actually support terrorists. It's lazy dishonest bullshit.
You, me and no one else has any idea what our military and intelligence department knows. We just go off what we see in the news. Period. Then we form an opinion as to what we personally believe the response should or shouldn't be.
People in much more important positions than us are making those decisions and then we choose to agree or disagree with them.
Some of us believe in a very strong global military presence, the defense of American interests, both domestic and abroad, offensive maneuvers against our enemies and retaliation in response to aggression.
Which is exactly what he should do - minus the chest thumping part. But he will because that's what he does.
Just watched the press conference.. We are so lucky to have Donald Trump at the POTUS.
Solid speech.
Solid speech.
we do know. its all lies.
never trust the government, alphabet agencies, etc, as trump taught us.
Killing scores of civilians.
Yeah, too bad.
We haven't been able to enjoy a World War and world condemnation in SUCH a long time, now !!!
I realize this is a bad day for you...you know, Trump with another international victory, markets hitting new highs, Trump's approval rating growing again.
Don't worry, maybe someone will make a racist claim against him next week to take some of this shine off.
You made one correct statement there, the market part, not a bad ratio for your typical posts.
"Taking the side of the enemy"
You're just not "all there", bone. I did NO such thing, for Godssake.
Hell, for all we know...you'd actually prefer to send 150 ICBM's to Iranian targets, engaging Russia in potential thermonuclear engagement for both of OUR countries.
Settle down, Cowboy. The US does not have the legal or moral authority to engage Iran in a 10x, much less a 20x response to events THAT DON"T INVOLVE UNITED STATES TERRITORY OR ITS CIVILIANS !!
Know even a rudimentary amount of International Law ?? You know,...….7th grade-level stuff ??
Easy, now.
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The Market has hit hundreds upon hundreds of "new highs" throughout the last eleven years. Hardly news. And hardly the result of Trump's one-of-a-kind economic stewardship..
FYI: Good day, so far...why wouldn't it be ??…..
FYI #2 : When a US President does the ONLY thing that any & all rational Presidents would do....
he ain't exactly movin' up in the next Nobel Peace Prize Award current standings...
As luck would have it, I saw an interview with Mr. Lieberman this evening wherein he indicates he is still registered to vote as a Democrat and is one.
So, I guess that I will take grudgingly take him at his word.
Actually, he got angry watching tv. Blowing up Solemani was considered the most extreme option.
"After initially rejecting the Suleimani option on Dec. 28 and authorizing airstrikes on an Iranian-backed Shiite militia group instead, a few days later Mr. Trump watched, fuming, as television reports showed Iranian-backed attacks on the American Embassy in Baghdad, according to Defense Department and administration officials. By late Thursday, the president had gone for the extreme option. Top Pentagon officials were stunned."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html
apparently part of the response was to shoot a surface to air missile into a passenger plane. oops. then blame engine failure on a plane that can fly with one engine...
thats some fake news. ap already reported on how it happened.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/03/donald-trump-iran-soleimani-093371
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Particularly a bad idea when there is a cell phone video seeming to show something that would be very hard to accept as an incident of engine failure occurring.
Dub....that would be "God's sake".
And...BTW, how did our sources know where those Iranian missiles were going to land with enough time to get folks out of harm's way? Think the Iranians decided to show a bit of bluster and informed us where they were aimed for to keep the wrath of Trump Hell from falling on their heads.
It was claimed that a student was outside with his cell phone and captured a bit of it. It's difficult to determine what is exactly going on but the light of the plane moves across the dark. There appears perhaps to be some movement, a bright flash than after a brief time a fireball at the crash site. It may well have been a fake or something else because I haven't been able to locate it since it was aired earlier.
Oh, thanks, Mr. Merriam-Webster . Godsake or Godssake are slang combinations of two words. If I had to correct all of your spelling, punctuation and usage errors...……my hard drive would be shot....
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Suck me, you arrogant prick. Just because you were an end user in the Navy, especially related to boats and ship-related mission systems doesn't mean you know much about how most IRAD is done especially for other services or how company-funded IRAD works. It's NOT considered IRAD if the government pays for it directly. IRAD is company-funded internal research and development. CRAD is contract research and development. IRAD is not refunded directly by the government - it can be refunded via rates (indirectly), but that's only a fraction of the dollar.
UONs = Urgent Operational Need(s). Again, this is a specific situation that an end user like yourself may have seen on the ocean/in the field, but from my experience, most development is not done for the government customer this way. Ships/ship systems take forever to mature and field, and so the Navy often employs UONs to get technology out to the end users sooner than they would otherwise. I'm sorry, but LCS is not a typical program. In any way - from what I've seen. I've only been doing this for nearly 30 years. It's sheer arrogance on your part to assume what you know about me or my background. (HINT: I manage IRAD and CRAD for a living. Your UONs example is not typical at all for what most government contractors do. AT ALL.)
It I'm not going to go into details on this board with you or anyone else because of my position and my clearances/OPSEC privileges. Not going to do it. I don't work on NAVSEA Programs. Most of our work is for the Army, some for the Air Force, and some for the Marines and the Navy. (Yes, the Marines are contracted through the Navy, but the Marines manage their own programs. The Marines are easy to work with. The Navy is the most difficult branch to work with from my experience. I've worked with Navy Commanders years ago who later became Admirals. I know many Army Generals (some in the so-called "six pack"), Colonels, and Majors quite well. Some are currently in the field, some are in the Pentagon.)
I'm sorry, but you cannot take your limited view of development and extrapolate it out to other services or situations. LCS is not typical.
Not only was the base informed on what the targets would be, but an early warning system was also utilized.
Iran fired those missiles to save face and show some sort of response to their general public. It was their idea of 'retaliation' and show of force. Granted, their very happy no one was injured but they'll puff their chest out that at least they pushed the button.
Little bit touchy today? Since you need proof and links, here's proof.
From Grammarist:
SPELLING
For God’s sake
By the usual standards of English grammar, the irreverent utterance of exasperation should be for God’s sake, with an apostrophe to show that god’s is possessive and with sake in the singular form, but the phrase appears idiomatically in several other forms—for example:
Dude, quit posting material that is so full of demonstrable crap that it demands rebuttal.
Then, the "volume" goes down.....
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Can you READ ???!!!
I'm DAMN sure I was aware of the correct usage of "God's sake" when I knowingly and deliberately used a slang, bastardized version of the expression.
Got it ?? Again, ….if you're having trouble reading these posts....there's a Junior High School within driving distance for you...….FULL of 7th-graders who can give you a hand !!!
hmm hard to tell. but if that is the plane, that's the world's craziest engine failure...i'm gonna stay with shot down by iran...
Yup, that's how it's looking. Crazy sad and unnecessary.
It almost sardonic given Iran's regular taking America to task over the Navy's terrible erroneous shoot down of Iran Air 655 by the USS Vincennes.
You f'd it up Dubs. Plain and simple. You f'd it up. And now your lying Democrat side is trying to cover it up.
