A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Now, I want to leave.
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Can we please find another way of talking about the supporters of this bill? Not all the followers of Jesus Christ support this nonsense. In fact, my experience has been that there is a significant minority that oppose it. (Myself very much included).Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Please quote the portions of the bill you oppose.Originally posted by pastorjoeboggs:
Can we please find another way of talking about the supporters of this bill? Not all the followers of Jesus Christ support this nonsense. In fact, my experience has been that there is a significant minority that oppose it. (Myself very much included).Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Originally posted by hunkgolden:
I take it she'll also be leaving the country since Clinton and the rest of the dems signed off on the same law in 1993.
I haven't seen so much phony outrage since "Hands up, don't shoot."
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She isn't the only one.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
+1Originally posted by hunkgolden:
I take it she'll also be leaving the country since Clinton and the rest of the dems signed off on the same law in 1993.
I haven't seen so much phony outrage since "Hands up, don't shoot."
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The bill does not allow someone to simply refuse service to a gay person for starters. The bill is meant to address certain situations. A restaurant can't refuse a gay couple to enter and eat; however, a florist would have legal protection in court to defend themselves if they want to refuse their service for a gay wedding.Originally posted by Beeazlebub:
Originally posted by hunkgolden:
I take it she'll also be leaving the country since Clinton and the rest of the dems signed off on the same law in 1993.
I haven't seen so much phony outrage since "Hands up, don't shoot."
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Perhaps you could explain what you think the bill does, and why the outrage over the bill is "phony".
Seriously, lumping all followers of Christ into people who support this bill is just as inflammatory.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Where is the distinction made between a florist participating in a wedding and a restaurateur refusing service? Both could be made on religious grounds, could they not?Originally posted by HartPU:
The bill does not allow someone to simply refuse service to a gay person for starters. The bill is meant to address certain situations. A restaurant can't refuse a gay couple to enter and eat; however, a florist would have legal protection in court to defend themselves if they want to refuse their service for a gay wedding.Originally posted by Beeazlebub:
Originally posted by hunkgolden:
I take it she'll also be leaving the country since Clinton and the rest of the dems signed off on the same law in 1993.
I haven't seen so much phony outrage since "Hands up, don't shoot."
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Perhaps you could explain what you think the bill does, and why the outrage over the bill is "phony".
The way the liberal media is portraying this is that now all of the sudden anyone and everyone can refuse to serve a gay couple just because they can. Not how it works.
I would wager all of those who passed this bill identify as followers of Jesus Christ, and I didn't interpret the above statement as a generalization of all Christians.Originally posted by gr8indoorsman:
Seriously, lumping all followers of Christ into people who support this bill is just as inflammatory.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Indiana joining 19 other states is the end of life as we know it.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
Originally posted by Purdue85:
Indiana joining 19 other states is the end of life as we know it.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
And, a bill that's modeled after a federal bill passed TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO.
In other words, Christians should be FORCED to accept things with which they disagree (whether it's a gay lifestyle or not).
Same for Muslims.
And Jews.
D@mn you, you religious people, for objecting to things the leftists endorse...
Why can't you heathens just live like the radical liberals of the sixties and seventies who were conscientious objectors...
you flatter yourself.Originally posted by Beeazlebub:
Originally posted by Purdue85:
Indiana joining 19 other states is the end of life as we know it.Originally posted by ecouch:
A respected professor at Purdue is looking to get out of Indiana after the followers of Jesus Christ passed a bill making it legal to refuse service to gay folk.
And, a bill that's modeled after a federal bill passed TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO.
In other words, Christians should be FORCED to accept things with which they disagree (whether it's a gay lifestyle or not).
Same for Muslims.
And Jews.
D@mn you, you religious people, for objecting to things the leftists endorse...
Why can't you heathens just live like the radical liberals of the sixties and seventies who were conscientious objectors...
You and GMM should go play with your legos. The grown-ups are trying to talk.
which would be....?Originally posted by qazplm:
that enshrines sanctioned discrimination of gay people.
oh yeah, "it's not a discrimination bill" right...it just so happens gay people will be legally refused service under the guise of "religious freedom."
so how do you liberals advance your cause, seeing how this is the same bill (although, at the state level) sponsored by one of the most liberal senators (Schumer), signed by another liberal (Clinton), and heavily supported by virtually every member of congress?Originally posted by kescwi:
It cracks me up, the "conservatives," I can't include most of these chuckle heads in the same category as real conservatives, constantly go on and on about liberal group think, yet invariably with issues like this one you see that same group parrot word for word the same thing. With this one it's "19 States, the Federal version, Clinton."
Not one answer regarding how this law works and how it now protects religious businesses in a way they were not protected before.
this has been coming for the last 25 years, and has been a result of radical leftists assault on Christian owned businesses.Originally posted by kescwi:
Again, Why was the law needed? What does the law do to restore religious freedom?? Why was it needed? What protection do Christian businesses have now that they were missing before before?
Got any answers to prove you really are a thinking conservative, and not just one of the hangers on who get into the anger of AM radio and Fox.
Originally posted by Purdue85:
this has been coming for the last 25 years, and has been a result of radical leftists assault on Christian owned businesses.Originally posted by kescwi:
Again, Why was the law needed? What does the law do to restore religious freedom?? Why was it needed? What protection do Christian businesses have now that they were missing before before?
Got any answers to prove you really are a thinking conservative, and not just one of the hangers on who get into the anger of AM radio and Fox.
What was once a position of "tolerance" has now transformed into "acceptance" ... which is light years away from the simple (and understandable, yet misguided) position of "tolerance".
The legal history is beyond a simple "sound byte" response on an internet forum (which many people understand, and use to their benefit). Suffice it to say, there has been significant legal action which moves this from legislation to litigation (and back).
The reality is, the radical leftists expect Christians to just "sit back and take it". When they don't, they "harrumpf" with their arms crossed, and call them all kinds of names, express outrage and indignation, but do no such thing when the tables are turned.
Which part of "(t)he legal history is beyond a simple 'sound byte' response on an internet forum" do you not get?Originally posted by kescwi:
Copy and paste-
Again, Why was the law needed? What does the law do to restore
religious freedom?? Why was it needed? What protection do Christian
businesses have now that they were missing before before?
Originally posted by Purdue85:
this has been coming for the last 25 years, and has been a result of radical leftists assault on Christian owned businesses.Originally posted by kescwi:
Again, Why was the law needed? What does the law do to restore religious freedom?? Why was it needed? What protection do Christian businesses have now that they were missing before before?
Got any answers to prove you really are a thinking conservative, and not just one of the hangers on who get into the anger of AM radio and Fox.
What was once a position of "tolerance" has now transformed into "acceptance" ... which is light years away from the simple (and understandable, yet misguided) position of "tolerance".
The legal history is beyond a simple "sound byte" response on an internet forum (which many people understand, and use to their benefit). Suffice it to say, there has been significant legal action which moves this from legislation to litigation (and back).
The reality is, the radical leftists expect Christians to just "sit back and take it". When they don't, they "harrumpf" with their arms crossed, and call them all kinds of names, express outrage and indignation, but do no such thing when the tables are turned.
Good, because I see no reason to.Originally posted by qazplm:
you don't.
You're either lying or you have an agenda.Originally posted by ecouch:
Pence said on the Garrison show there was no reason for the bill. Well, the reason is that Christians (followers of Jesus Christ) were curbstomped by Posner in the 7th circuit about gay marriage. So, since they can't ban gay marriage, this is the next best thing.
copy and paste again, without any thought or investigation.Originally posted by kescwi:
Copy and paste, again.
Again, Why was the law needed? What does the law do to restore
religious freedom?? Why was it needed? What protection do Christian
businesses have now that they were missing before before?
Answer the question, I don't care what the internet says, or Jeff Bezos' WaPo, site one Indiana court case where a person was forced to violate their religious convictions and then show how this bill remedies that by restoring their religious freedom and how exactly are they now protected form ever again enduring the atrocities of the last 25 years?
If it's everywhere and something you have followed for 25 years this shouldn't be that hard.