mental health issues are not exclusive to the United States. Mass shootings are.
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That’s because other countries deal with mental issues differently than the USA.
Canada had a mass shooting two years ago in Nova Scotia where 22 people died.
It is a wild misconception that mass shootings only happen here because our media does more to sensationalize it than others across the world. Additionally not every country categorizes it the same as we do either. For example, the daily death toll in Chicago if happened in say the UK, would likely be considered a "mass shooting".
It's hyperbole sure, but still makes the point.
I'm not sure it's mental health as much as a complete lack of personal responsibility, especially from parents. How bad has it gotten?
www.latimes.com
It's now social media's responsibility to monitor how much time kids spend on the platform and not parents.
California parents could soon sue for social media addiction
California could soon hold social media giants responsible for harming children addicted to their apps, under a bill passed by the state Assembly.
www.latimes.com
It's now social media's responsibility to monitor how much time kids spend on the platform and not parents.
Red states have higher death rates due to gun violence than blue states by a wide margin. Please look at the link to the rates of gun deaths by state provided by the CDC. California was one of the safer states in 2020 so maybe people should keep an open mind. By the way New Jersey and New York were third and fifth. States with tougher gun laws generally have lower death rates by gun. Imagine that.I'm not sure it's mental health as much as a complete lack of personal responsibility, especially from parents. How bad has it gotten?
California parents could soon sue for social media addiction
California could soon hold social media giants responsible for harming children addicted to their apps, under a bill passed by the state Assembly.
It's now social media's responsibility to monitor how much time kids spend on the platform and not parents.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
www.cdc.gov
Here are the states with the strictest gun laws in America
Hawaii has the second most restrictive gun laws and fewest gun deaths in the country.
www.deseret.com
But let's ignore Illinois, Colorado and Maryland.Red states have higher death rates due to gun violence than blue states by a wide margin. Please look at the link to the rates of gun deaths by state provided by the CDC. California was one of the safer states in 2020 so maybe people should keep an open mind. By the way New Jersey and New York were third and fifth. States with tougher gun laws generally have lower death rates by gun. Imagine that.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
Here are the states with the strictest gun laws in America
Hawaii has the second most restrictive gun laws and fewest gun deaths in the country.
Strict gun laws and high rates. Oh that's right, they blame other states, not personal responsibility or other issues. Just more blame shifting.
I haven't seen anybody saying they only happen here. People are saying they happen much more frequently here.......and they are correct.
You just mischaracterized the argument.......and then blamed the media.
Let’s also discuss what an absolutely asinine attempt at a comparison it was by BBG. Canada’s last one was two years ago. We’ve had how many JUST THIS MONTH. Grasping at straws is clearly a specialty.
That's why it has to be teachers as well. As many responsible adults that have the means will discourage this type of thing.
Pull your head out of your rear point of contact once Bob.
Here is the post once again for you:
trb3 said:
mental health issues are not exclusive to the United States. Mass shootings are.
Which clearly indicates that mass shootings ore "exclusive" to the US. I proved that false and with a quick google search. I know the left has you indoctrinated, but good God Bob that is a ridiculous take, even for you. You might want to try and understand context and in the context of the post I quoted, my response was dead on.
And at no point did I "blame" the media, I called them out for their sensationalizing of these acts which they most certainly do. I mean we should do ANYTHING to stop these things right? Isn't that what you said? Taking the side of the media... in any way... is a very liberal thing to do Bob.
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Grasping at straws by replying with fact? It was asked why it never happens anywhere else, I proved it wrong. I know your lefty mind is easily duped and clouded, but come on. Guess the rational discussion we had was a one time thing.
Yes I would like to know these "loop holes" too, since here recently when I bought a nice new handgun at a Gun Show I had to go through all the normal background checks.
Na it's more than that, I just used this thread to prove you wrong... again.
Ahh clearly I am on to something with my indoctrination comment. Your responses here just keep showing you're as liberal and incoherent as AOC.
Are they? Anders Breivik gunned down 69 people in Norway. In the last 10 years, Germany has had multiple mass shootings, some with double digit people killed. So it happens pretty frequently in Europe too.
But go ahead and keep believing the stilted p.o.v. you get from the sources you choose to listen to/read.
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Who cares??? The data is not driven by the "red" part of the states but by the murderous "blue" cities.Red states have higher death rates due to gun violence than blue states by a wide margin. Please look at the link to the rates of gun deaths by state provided by the CDC. California was one of the safer states in 2020 so maybe people should keep an open mind. By the way New Jersey and New York were third and fifth. States with tougher gun laws generally have lower death rates by gun. Imagine that.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
Here are the states with the strictest gun laws in America
Hawaii has the second most restrictive gun laws and fewest gun deaths in the country.
I can personally attest that at my mom's estate sale 4 guns were purchased at the auction. No handguns but 3 rifles (30-06 and 307) and 2 12 gauge shotguns. They were all "older" adults so there weren't any teenagers so I don't know if the auctioneer would have allowed minors to purchase. This happened in Indiana in 2018
What Is the Gun Show Loophole and Why Does it Exist?
Gun sold or transferred by private gun owners are not regulated by law in many states, creating a loophole in gun control.
I don't know if rates tell the whole story. It doesn't appear to distinguish gun deaths by suicide or by murder. I could be wrong, but I didn't find that information.Red states have higher death rates due to gun violence than blue states by a wide margin. Please look at the link to the rates of gun deaths by state provided by the CDC. California was one of the safer states in 2020 so maybe people should keep an open mind. By the way New Jersey and New York were third and fifth. States with tougher gun laws generally have lower death rates by gun. Imagine that.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
Here are the states with the strictest gun laws in America
Hawaii has the second most restrictive gun laws and fewest gun deaths in the country.
Except that it was. He said it was "exclusive" to the US... it is not.
Here to help you, here is the definition of "exclusive":
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/exclusive
Buying a gun from a private individual isn't a "gun show" loophole, since it's not a gun show.I can personally attest that at my mom's estate sale 4 guns were purchased at the auction. No handguns but 3 rifles (30-06 and 307) and 2 12 gauge shotguns. They were all "older" adults so there weren't any teenagers so I don't know if the auctioneer would have allowed minors to purchase. This happened in Indiana in 2018
What Is the Gun Show Loophole and Why Does it Exist?
Gun sold or transferred by private gun owners are not regulated by law in many states, creating a loophole in gun control.www.thoughtco.com
I've heard of these claims that people can go into gun shows and buy guns without a background check and some people tried to do just that. They were asked to do a background check every time.
24th for Illinois and 18th for Maryland. Colorado was 29th but they don't have strict gun laws. Both Illinois and Maryland fared better than Indiana in 2020.
Gun control laws do reduce gun deaths, if you look at the data its pretty indisputable. I guess its just how much of one's "freedoms" they are willing to give up to save lives.
It’s a national problem
The Red State Murder Problem – Third Way
Third Way is a center-left think tank that champions modern solutions to the most challenging problems in US public policy, including the economy, climate and energy, national security, social policy, and politics.
This is a misnomer because the vast majority of gun deaths are suicide. If they only counted murders by gun death then states like Illinois would be at the top.
54% of all gun deaths in the US are by suicide.
www.pewresearch.org
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2021 than in any other year on record, according to the latest available statistics from the CDC.
www.pewresearch.org
I am taking his post for what he said and not inferring anything. It's not semantics, it's literally verbatim of what was posted. You can keep deflecting though you're too committed now.
Except that isn't what I stated. I laid that comment at YOUR feet since that is the avenue you have decided to take.
I’m quoting the “loophole “ from the article I previously attached. It appears private individuals from certain states can sell guns without background checks whereas dealers are required to conduct background checks.
“The “gun show loophole” refers to the fact that most states do not require background checks for firearms sold or traded at gun shows by private individuals. Federal law requires background checks on guns sold by federally licensed dealers only.
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I'm not a child, I know who it is. No gun problems here. I go 10 miles east to DC, fn warzone. It's not the Asians shooting up the city... It's the same people in the same places.It’s a national problem
The Red State Murder Problem – Third Way
Third Way is a center-left think tank that champions modern solutions to the most challenging problems in US public policy, including the economy, climate and energy, national security, social policy, and politics.www.thirdway.org
'It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records
At least 12 major U.S. cities have broken annual homicide records in 2021 -- and there's still three weeks to go in the year.
Thanks for sharing. Do you know whether suicides are lumped into the murder numbers? I can say I feel safer in Kauai than CA. It’s probably due to the tight knit island culture. They both have strong gun control laws but you can still purchase guns. Kauai has a fair amount of hunters and gun owners and the ones I have talked to haven’t complained about the process.It’s a national problem
The Red State Murder Problem – Third Way
Third Way is a center-left think tank that champions modern solutions to the most challenging problems in US public policy, including the economy, climate and energy, national security, social policy, and politics.
I do think the amount of suicides going on with guns is the bigger mental illness problem. It is quoting murder rates, so I assume suicides aren't in there.
Read the article by TMan92 posted above. Gun violence is much more prevalent in "red" states.
What you're clearly on to is a consistent pattern of Trump Republicans talking about everybody else being indoctrinated except them. You've just become another willing participant. If you really want to read something into it, let me be clear. Nobody has the high ground when it comes to being "indoctrinated". Tens of millions of trump republicans believe an election was rigged. I don't know how you get more indoctrinated than that.
You're repeated references to AOC belie your claim of being an independent.
If you want to crow about proving me wrong because of a one guy's statement on a message board, knock yourself out. You win a cookie.
Great article.
Data like this doesn't match the narrative put out by everyone's favorite "news" network that the country is deteriorating based on Biden's "liberal agenda". Hard argument to make when the red states are having a rougher time than the blue states and most laws and policing are done at the state and local level.
