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Where are we ranked next week?

probably a few spots: maybe #12 in both polls

Now they have to turn around and play games on Monday (Western Illinois) and Wednesday (Norfolk State). They can't soften up and lose the effort-level they played with in today's game. Keep playing with purpose.

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I have a terrible memory and too lazy to look, anyone know the last time we were ranked in the top 10 prior to this season?
 
Since IU and NC lost, maybe 9 or 10.

We beat a lower ranked team. It is possible that Butler jumps ahead with a win over IU and they only have the one loss (although it is a bad loss), but arguably a better win. UNC lost a close game to Kentucky and IU lost a close game to Butler, but it is likely we move up 1 or 2 spots. Purdue has a couple of easier games and then Big Ten play starts. A top 10 ranking doesn't matter in December. If Purdue wins the games it is supposed to then the ranking will take care of itself.
 
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Seriously - it's mid-December, literally meaningless what we're ranked right now

I don't know if it is meaningless, but I get your point. It would be nice to be in the national mindset is all........laying down the foundation for when the rankings do matter. I can't put it into the right words LOL......
 
Last year we got up to #8. Then lost to butler and never got back into the top 10
Last season, week 19 coaches poll #10 (AP 12).
And ya, week 6 before butler 8/9.

Meaningless in terms of actual ncaa tourney seeding and success.
Not meaninglessness for good/more publicity being listed each week... 7th longest active poll streak!
 
After losing by 20+ and firing our coach at halftime I assume we will be unranked.
That would have been likely had MBob not rescued the day by quickly replacing MP with a consortium of all-knowing malcontents from this board. Their brilliant use of a fastbreaking , no 3 shooting offense fueled by a brilliant 1-1-1-1-1 zone press saved the day.
 
That would have been likely had MBob not rescued the day by quickly replacing MP with a consortium of all-knowing malcontents from this board. Their brilliant use of a fastbreaking , no 3 shooting offense fueled by a brilliant 1-1-1-1-1 zone press saved the day.
Seriously.Classic.Post

We would also have stocked up on 3 or 4 mid term 5* 1ADs
 
Teams in front of us who lost:

#7 North Carolina (to #6 Kentucky)
#9 IU (to #18 Butler)

That's it. We'll be 14th or 15th. We may pass #14 Wisky, who had a pedestrian win over Green Bay, but I doubt it. But even if we do, Butler may pass us.
Nice estimate...
Butler 13, Purdue 15, IU 16
 
Updated AP

1 Villanova (56)
2 UCLA (3)
3 Kansas
4 Baylor (6)
5 Duke
6 Kentucky
7 Gonzaga
8 North Carolina
9 Creighton
10 Louisville
11 West Virginia
12 Virginia
13 Butler
14 Wisconsin
15 Purdue
16 Indiana
17 Xavier
18 Arizona
19 Saint Mary's (Calif.)
20 Oregon
21 Florida State
22 South Carolina
23 Southern California
24 Cincinnati
25 Notre Dame
 
We beat a lower ranked team. It is possible that Butler jumps ahead with a win over IU and they only have the one loss (although it is a bad loss), but arguably a better win. UNC lost a close game to Kentucky and IU lost a close game to Butler, but it is likely we move up 1 or 2 spots. Purdue has a couple of easier games and then Big Ten play starts. A top 10 ranking doesn't matter in December. If Purdue wins the games it is supposed to then the ranking will take care of itself.

I think Purdue probably gets to #11 with Butler at #12
 
The national voters have us pegged as the 15th best team. We have basically upheld that rank. People will move round us until we prove we're better (or worse) than 15th. We are not in the national spotlight. Voters will check to see how we did, and they will leave us alone until something shocks them. It will take a lot for us to move into the top ten because the majority of national voters don't think we belong there. And please ... no logic allowed in replies to this post.
 
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It looks like the AP voters are still combining overall win-loss record and quality wins into their "formula". Otherwise, it doesn't make sense for Butler (10-1) to move up 5 spots in the poll for beating a quality opponent while Purdue (9-2) moves 0 spots in the poll for beating a quality opponent.
 
It looks like the AP voters are still combining overall win-loss record and quality wins into their "formula". Otherwise, it doesn't make sense for Butler (10-1) to move up 5 spots in the poll for beating a quality opponent while Purdue (9-2) moves 0 spots in the poll for beating a quality opponent.
Actually, I would argue Butler should have been in front of Purdue last week, based on resumes. They have a worse loss but much better wins in aggregate.
 
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Actually, I would argue Butler should have been in front of Purdue last week, based on resumes. They have a worse loss but much better wins in aggregate.

Okay, but no one was talking about last week's rankings.
 
and how does that ultimately impact anything?
Ranking affects seeding and perception of how people look at Purdue. If you don't have a national title in your shelf, you better get a good image at all times. I believe Tom Crean is an expert in this area. Are you saying there is no difference in ranking between #1 vs #99?
 
Actually, I would argue Butler should have been in front of Purdue last week, based on resumes. They have a worse loss but much better wins in aggregate.



They have a MUCH worse loss and better wins. What's more important? A loss to pretty bad team, a team that won't sniff the top 75, but also has 3 wins vs. top 25 competition...

or two losses, one vs. the #1 ranked team in the nation, reigning national champs, and another @ Louisville, top #10 team, whose only loss is a down to the wire game to #4 Baylor, with a win vs. a top 25 team, and some quality wins vs. power 5 conference teams?


Apparently, the prior is more important, according to the experts. I think the really bad loss counters the wins, but I can easily see both sides.
 
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