Disagree that it would be called a majority of the time. I agree that sometimes it would be. But especially in the final seconds of a game, the refs generally don't call much, they make the players earn it. I've seen plenty of games, even in AH, where there is a WHOLE lot more contact than that on a last second drive, and it's actually initiated by the defense, and it still doesn't get called. Now in yesterday's game, if Wheeler had started to drive, and THEN the defender slipped and fell into him, that's a foul. But it happened the other way around. The guy slipped and fell, then Wheeler dribbled right into his foot, he initiated the contact, not the defender. I wish they would have shown more camera angles to see it better though, I'm just saying what I could see from that one angle. If I saw better angles, maybe I would see it differently.
Wheeler fouled......
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Disagree that it would be called a majority of the time. I agree that sometimes it would be. But especially in the final seconds of a game, the refs generally don't call much, they make the players earn it. I've seen plenty of games, even in AH, where there is a WHOLE lot more contact than that on a last second drive, and it's actually initiated by the defense, and it still doesn't get called. Now in yesterday's game, if Wheeler had started to drive, and THEN the defender slipped and fell into him, that's a foul. But it happened the other way around. The guy slipped and fell, then Wheeler dribbled right into his foot, he initiated the contact, not the defender. I wish they would have shown more camera angles to see it better though, I'm just saying what I could see from that one angle. If I saw better angles, maybe I would see it differently.
The refs were bad yesterday and really favored TX. I remember CE being bumped into very hard with about 3 mins to go holding the ball and no call. After the call on Sasha, that was wildly inconsistent.
You have identified a real problem. If something is a foul in the first half then it is a foul in the last 30 seconds of the game. I was not aware that the rulebook for refs had foul regs thst were time dependent.
You have identified a real problem. If something is a foul in the first half then it is a foul in the last 30 seconds of the game. I was not aware that the rulebook for refs had foul regs thst were time dependent.
Yes, but a defensive player cannot prevent an offensive player that has a clear path to the basket that isn't in a good or proper defensive stance. Yes, it is a foul but not they only reason they lost as well.
Yeah, I'm not a painter hater at all. But I can't understand how the Wheeler foul is the one he freaks out on. The sasha call was absurd!
I tend to agree. If AW was more experienced/confident/whatever, I feel like he would have just blown right through the falling down defender on a direct line to the basket and forced the ref to make the call, and I believe he would have. It happens in a split second, but that would’ve been the right play given the circumstance. He was nervous/surprised/inexperienced and tried to avoid the contact and lost the ball. It’s probably a 50/50 call, sometimes you get ‘em sometimes you don’t. Just think the timidness (or whatever you call it) is what allowed that call, not necessarily the ref blowing something obvious.
Of course it's not in their rulebook to officiate differently based on time. But I do think it happens. As I said though, I don't think that foul would have been called very often, no matter the time, but especially not in the final seconds. My best guess at why officials swallow their whistles at the end....because they get so criticized with any calls they DO make that effect the outcome, that they figure they are best to just not call anything and let it play out.
I will say though, that call on Sasha was terrible. There was hardly any contact at all, it was more like putting your arm out to shield and box out the shooter. That was a clearly bad call.
I get the whole "good teams don't put themselves in that position" speech, I really do, but I feel that you got to make that call. PU has had a grueling stretch of games, and has been away from home...…..it would be nice to not have to worry about a blown call on top of it. It is what it is. I still can't get the VT game out of my head.....now that was a hose job.
