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1. Duke Blue Devils

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2. Villanova Wildcats

Kris Jenkins has a tidy old-man game. Jalen Brunson sort of reminds you of Andre Miller. In general, the 2015-16 Wildcats played with immense precision and poise. You might have assumed, then, that Jay Wright's Final Four team was stocked with fourth years. In reality? It had two. So, yes, sure, the departures of Ryan Arcidiacono and Daniel Ochefu will be hugely impactful, but bringing back basically everyone else -- Jenkins, Brunson, Phil Booth, Mikal Bridges and, last but not least, national player of the year candidate Josh Hart -- will soften the landing considerably. Also? Wright's team has won 86 percent of its games in the past three seasons. The only major conference team in the last 20 years to do that is Duke, which did it five times from 1997-98 to 2000-02. So, yeah. The Wildcats will be more than fine.

For more on how the Wildcats will look in 2015-16, check out Villanova's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

3. Kentucky Wildcats

Another Way Too Early Top 25, another offseason roster overhaul, another obvious top-five spot for Kentucky. The standard operating procedure in Lexington, Kentucky, continues apace. Good thing, too, not only because burly forward Bam Adebayo could bring some "man" to 2015-16's underwhelming frontcourt, but because the concept of replacing both Jamal Murray (one of the nation's best pure perimeter scorers) and Tyler Ulis (one of the nation's best players, full stop) would be all but unthinkable for any coach not named John Calipari. If Ulis decides to return for his junior year -- unlikely, but not totally impossible -- well, look out.

For more on how the Wildcats will look in 2015-16, check out Kentucky's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

4. Kansas Jayhawks

Combined with an Elite Eight loss, the end of Perry Ellis' career, andCheick Diallo dipping his toe in the draft waters, Wayne Selden Jr.'sannouncement last week -- that after a breakout junior campaign he would enter the NBA draft and, yes, hire an agent -- was one more bummer to KU fans could add to their pile. We suggest a simple exercise: Stand in front of mirror, say "Bill Self is my favorite team's basketball coach," five or 10 times, and then see how you feel. Whether Diallo stays in the draft or not, the Jayhawks will still have a devastating Frank Mason III/Devonte' Graham backcourt combo, talented freshman arrivals, a host of rising role players, tons of depth, and a coach coming off his 12th straight Big 12 title. See? Much better.

For more on how the Jayhawks will look in 2015-16, check out Kansas' returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

5. Louisville Cardinals

Let's be real: This ranking is a huge guess. It hinges on two big unknowns. The first: Whether Chinanu Onuaku, one of the nation's best offensive rebounders, interior finishers, and rim protectors returns from this spring's draft fact-finding expedition or stays in the process after May. The second: Whether, and when, the NCAA hammers Louisville for the strippers-in-the-dorms-scandal. Was this season's self-imposed postseason ban enough to sate the committee on infractions? Will the investigation end in the next 12 months? If Onuaku is back, and Louisville isn't debilitated by sanctions, this team (which also adds volume scorer Tony Hicks, a grad transfer from Penn, to its backcourt) will be a force. Stay tuned.

For more on how the Cardinals will look in 2015-16, check out Louisville' returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

6. North Carolina Tar Heels

Having just appeared in the national championship game, North Carolina now heads into an offseason facing more uncertainty than at any time in decades -- if not ever. At the Final Four, NCAA president Mark Emmert indicated the committee on infractions might be sending some certified mail to Chapel Hill within the next month; what the end (or, the beginning of the end) of the paper-class scandal will mean for UNC is anyone's guess. Sanctions could be devastating. They could be minor. No one knows. The good news? Despite losing seniors Marcus Paige and Brice Johnson -- the latter of which just spent five months in permanent beast mode -- and even in a challenging recruiting climate, Carolina will still be led by a core group of extremely talented returning players. Off the court? Anyone's guess. On the court? UNC will be fine.

For more on how the Tar Heels will look in 2015-16, check out North Carolina's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

7. Virginia Cavaliers

Remember the cafeteria scene in "Jurassic Park?" Of course you do. Dr. Grant asks Dr. Sattler if she's sure a rampant velociraptor has been "contained." "Yes," she replies, "unless they figure out how to open doors." Virginia coach Tony Bennett is that velociraptor. See, Bennett has always relied on player development to make up for the talent gap between his recruits and Duke's or North Carolina's, and now, after three years terrorizing the rest of the ACC, the Cavaliers face personnel losses (Malcolm Brogdon, Anthony Gill) that should be beyond their immediate capabilities. Except -- gasp -- Virginia's 2016 recruiting class boasts not one but two top-10 players at their positions, plusMemphis transfer (and former elite prospect) Austin Nichols, plus London Perrantes and the rest of the returners. What is that? "It's ... Bennett. He's inside."

For more on how the Cavaliers will look in 2015-16, check out Virginia's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

8. Indiana Hoosiers

Indiana won the Big Ten title outright and beat a Kentucky team many (rightfully) considered a national-title contender en route to a Sweet 16 finish. It was a resounding, narrative-flipping season built in large part on the brilliant work of Yogi Ferrell, who now leaves Bloomington as one of the most productive guards (and players, period) in school history. The return of guardJames Blackmon Jr. from injury is among the many reasons to stay bullish on the Hoosiers. Robert Johnson, Collin Hartman, and OG Anunoby, a basketball cyborg incrementally approaching self-awareness, are also on that list. The draft, in the end, might be the difference: If neither Troy Williams nor Thomas Bryant return -- the latter especially -- the Hoosiers will be a fun, competitive Big Ten team. If either comes back, or both, title contention is totally in play.

For more on how the Hoosiers will look in 2015-16, check out Indiana's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

9. Wisconsin Badgers

Given the mid-December retirement of icon Bo Ryan, and the Greg Gard-led phoenix that sprung up a few weeks later, you'd hardly blame Badgers fans for wishing the 2015-16 season was, say, three or four weeks longer. What if this team had found itself in November? How might the season have been different? Next season offers a rare opportunity to test that exact hypothesis.Nigel Hayes is the only potential departure, and even that seems unlikely;Bronson Koenig, Ethan Happ, and the rest of this team's top nine scorers are likely to return. This team went to the Sweet 16 after a 9-9 start; imagine what it might do with a full year to figure things out.

For more on how the Badgers will look in 2015-16, check out Indiana's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

10. Oregon Ducks

The Pac-12 champ and West Region No. 1 seed was also responsible for vanquishing Duke in the Sweet 16, a win that was followed by a mildly overblown controversy. (For the record: We think it's more respectful to take a shot-clock violation and hand the ball over at the end of a game you're obviously going to win, as opposed to firing up a 30-foot 3-pointer ... but we could also see why that could seem patronizing.) Anyway! Oregon was really good, and it's about to be really good again, not only because unwitting Duke antagonistDillon Brooks returns but because he is joined by Tyler Dorsey and center Chris Boucher. Boucher, one of the more surprising, versatile bigs in college hoops, won an eligibility appeal to play another year in Eugene.

For more on how the Ducks will look in 2015-16, check out Oregon's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

11. Xavier Musketeers

Will Trevon Bluiett be back? Bluiett's All-Big East First Team campaign for a great Musketeers team does not seem to have piqued the NBA's interest; fortunately, the new rules allow him to ask NBA people why that is ... before returning to Xavier. That seems the most probable outcome. Assuming forward Jalen Reynolds does the same -- which also seems also probable -- you're looking at a team that just ran neck-and-neck in the Big East with Villanova bringing mostly everybody back.

For more on how the Musketeers will look in 2015-16, check out Xavier's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

12. Arizona Wildcats

How can you tell when your program and/or coach is awesome? When you go 25-9 ... and it's a "down" season. Or when you lose four seniors ... and everyone expects you to get better. Such is life under Sean Miller in Tucson where the Wildcats will bid farewell to leading scorers Ryan Anderson and Gabe York, as well as back-line fixture Kaleb Tarczewski, and enter 2016-17 as a likely Pac-12 co-favorite with a team that just earned a No. 1 seed. Keep a particular watch on guard Allonzo Trier, whose midseason injury reduced his role as a freshman but whose scoring gave Arizona a different dimension, and he could be much better as a sophomore.

For more on how the Wildcats will look in 2015-16, check out Arizona's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

13. Michigan State Spartans

Middle Tennessee's shocking win over Michigan State not only endedDenzel Valentine's career, but also those of Matt Costello and Bryn Forbes, both core to the Spartans' rebounding and perimeter scoring success. Replacing those three guys might mean taking a half-step back, at least early in the season, especially if forward Deyonta Davis, a late lottery projection, decides to stay in the draft. Even if guard Eron Harris is the only returning starter, though, Tom Izzo's 2016 class might be his best ever. He'll get them settled in soon enough.

For more on how the Spartans will look in 2015-16, check out Michigan State's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

14. Maryland Terrapins

Maryland will lose Rasheed Sulaimon and Jake Layman, both seniors. They will probably also lose center Diamond Stone, a smooth offensive operator and a projected lottery pick after one year on campus. These things feel fairly certain. Far less certain is whether Melo Trimble will follow suit. If he returns -- and if he's healthy all season, and goes easy on the turnovers -- Mark Turgeon's team will still have an elite point guard to play pick-and-pop with Robert Carter. Add Dion Wiley (returning from injury), Jared Nickens (a still-promising sharpshooter), solid, experienced bigs (Damonte Dodd, Michal Cekovsky) and a couple of top-100 freshmen (Kevin Huerter, Anthony Cowan). This feels like a top-25 team at the absolute worst.

For more on how the Terrapins will look in 2015-16, check out Maryland's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

15. West Virginia Mountaineers

After the Mountaineers' season ended, rebound-robot forward Devin Williams announced that he would leave for the NBA, and he seemed fairly definitive on the topic. Last week, though, WVU coach Bob Huggins said Williams wouldn't hire an agent. Which is probably wise, because it's no guarantee Williams is even invited to the combine, which tends to make getting drafted in the NBA tough. The Mountaineers will still have most of their backcourt press-application personnel in the mix no matter what Williams decides -- but losing a guy who grabs 15 percent of available offensive boards and 29 percent defensively would, obviously, hurt.

For more on how the Mountaineers will look in 2015-16, check out West Virginia's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

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16. Purdue Boilermakers

You might have noticed a theme here: Draft decisions are a big deal.Caleb Swanigan's decision to test the waters but not hire an agent is no different, as Swanigan's talent and a full offseason of drills is a frightening prospect for the rest of the Big Ten. Even more frightening? With A.J. Hammons graduated, 7-foot-2 center/kraken Isaac Haas will be released from his bench-minute restraints, set free to roam the countryside, drawing fouls and making free throws. The Boilers need more shooting, and replacing Rapheal Davis won't be easy. But this frontcourt still looks scary.

For more on how the Boilermakers will look in 2015-16, check out Purdue's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

17. Syracuse Orange

Syracuse lost 14 games this season. It also went to the Final Four. It was a weird 2015-16 across the board, but the freshmen who helped fuel the Orange's late-season explosion -- Tyler Lydon and Malachi Richardson, namely -- look likely to get this program back into its top-25 comfort zone. SeniorsTrevor Cooney and Michael Gbinije are gone, sure, but assuming Richardson doesn't jump to the draft (and he was noncommital on the topic Saturday night) Jim Boeheim's blend of returners and newcomers (from freshmen Tyus Battleand Matthew Moyer to former Providence center Paschal Chukwu) won't be sweating it out again on Selection Sunday.

For more on how the Orange will look in 2015-16, check out Syracuse's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

18. Oklahoma Sooners

Losing a historic 3-point scoring machine is tough enough; losing two seniors with whom he started well over 100 games is brutal. Buddy Hield, Ryan Spangler and Isaiah Cousins are all done, and Lon Kruger has a huge task ahead of him. But he also has Jordan Woodard and Khadeem Lattin back, and both players seem capable of larger roles, a la Koenig and Hayes at Wisconsin this season. Similar to Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan, you just assume Kruger will figure things out.

For more on how the Sooners will look in 2015-16, check out Oklahoma's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

19. Texas A&M Aggies

Billy Kennedy's fourth season was a resounding success that brought him not only his first NCAA tournament berth in College Station, Texas, but a No. 3 seed and a trip to the Sweet 16. At first glance, losing Danuel House, Jalen Jones, Anthony Collins and Alex Caruso should be crippling. It won't be easy, to be sure, but the recruiting work Kennedy has done the past two seasons has given him a deep pool of talent from which to find their replacements. We're particularly high on sophomores Admon Gilder and DJ Hogg, both of whom looked extremely promising in limited minutes as freshman. Tyler Davisalready was, and will continue to be, a beast.

For more on how the Aggies will look in 2015-16, check out Oklahoma's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

20. UConn Huskies

The Huskies never quite put it together in 2015-16, but the fundamentals there -- the elite interior defense of Amida Brimah, the budding guard play of Jalen Adams -- were always stronger than the record showed. (Blame a habit of close losses and/or late collapses for that.) Kevin Ollie will add four top-100 prospects to an already mostly intact mix, led by point guardAlterique Gilbert.

For more on how the Huskies will look in 2015-16, check out UConn's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

21. Seton Hall Pirates

Nearly every team in these rankings will be awaiting a major draft decision or two, and some of these teams' seasons will hinge on that decision. None more so than Seton Hall, where sophomore guard Isaiah Whitehead, coming off a relentless, high-volume scoring performance and a Big East tournament title, entered the draft without hiring an agent. He seems intent on remaining only if he's not guaranteed to go in the first round. This return is make or break.

For more on how the Pirates will look in 2015-16, check out Seton Hall's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

22. Iowa State Cyclones

This spot depends on Monte Morris' draft decision. If he's back, the departure of irreplaceable forward Georges Niang (plus Abdel Nader andJameel McKay) doesn't look quite so dire. At the very least, ISU's starting lineup will look recognizable. If Morris is gone, though, the Cyclones will haveNazareth Mitrou-Long, Matt Thomas, Deonte Burton and ... that's it.

For more on how the Cyclones will look in 2015-16, check out Iowa State's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

23. Saint Mary's Gaels

No one expected much from Saint Mary's last season, not after it lost four senior starters, including workhorse forward Brad Waldow. Even the Gaels' own nonconference schedule felt calibrated more for ease and confidence building than NCAA tournament cred. Instead, Saint Mary's posted top-five shooting marks from both inside and outside the arc, swept Gonzaga in the regular season for the first time in 20 years, and finished 29-6 overall. All five starters are back. Expectations will be slightly different this time around.

24. UCLA Bruins


Things haven't been great in Westwood lately. After UCLA finished 15-17, Steve Alford-related angst reached a fever pitch; someone started flying banners over campus; and Alford even gave back a year of his contract extension as a gesture of conciliation. The best way to quell the unrest? Win. And with the nation's top point guard, Lonzo Ball, arriving this summer, the Bruins seem likely to do a bit more of just that in 2016-17.

For more on how the Bruins will look in 2015-16, check out ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.

25. Cincinnati Bearcats

The Bearcats got quality stuff from forward Octavius Ellis, and his low-post production and toughness will be missed. Then again, Mick Cronin's Cincy teams are never low on either attribute, and with Troy Caupain and Gary Clark returning, freshman Jarron Cumberland joining up, and the usual fistfight-level rebounding and defense, this team will be just as tough as ever next season.

For more on how the Bearcats will look in 2015-16, check out Cincinnati's returning players and incoming recruits and ESPN RecruitingNation's class rankings.
 
For very early preseason polls, the list isn't too bad.

We will still be large up front and if CE can deliver on half of the expectaions, things could be very good for us come tourney time.
 
4 teams ahead of us from the B1G. Looks like teams will be beating up each other again.
 
4 teams ahead of us from the B1G. Looks like teams will be beating up each other again.

This is what stood out to me as well. 16th in the nation but 5th in our conference. I'd feel a lot better if we can add a 2 who can shoot AND create their own shot, but I don't know how realistic that is at this point.
 
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Still just a moot discussion until we know who is staying and who is going from all teams.
 
This is what stood out to me as well. 16th in the nation but 5th in our conference. I'd feel a lot better if we can add a 2 who can shoot AND create their own shot, but I don't know how realistic that is at this point.

I'm not entirely sold on Maryland, and to a lesser extent Wisconsin.

Yes, they point out that Wisconsin made a Sweet 16 - but they had also lost to Nebraska in their first game of the BTT a few days before. I'd say they are top 25 material, but #9 in the country? Eh, that seems a bit high.
 
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I'm not entirely sold on Maryland, and to a lesser extent Wisconsin.

Yes, they point out that Wisconsin made a Sweet 16 - but they had also lost to Nebraska in their first game of the BTT a few days before. I'd say they are top 25 material, but #9 in the country? Eh, that seems a bit high.
The thing about Wisky is everyone is coming back....allegedly even Hayes. Gard has proven he can coach, so while it may be a bit high, I think they're still top 15.
 
The thing about Wisky is everyone is coming back....allegedly even Hayes. Gard has proven he can coach, so while it may be a bit high, I think they're still top 15.
I agree. Mark my words, we are going to be sick of Happ in the next 3 years!!
 
I'm already sick of him and his ability to travel constantly without ever having it called.
Yes indeed, we are going to be screaming at the tv screen the next 3 years! He is one of those guys that just drives the other teams fans crazy. He is going to be a handful next year especially if Hayes decides to stay.
 
Lmao we can't honestly be talking crap about Wisky and Maryland right now? We have been first rounded the last two years... Reflect on our ranking not other teams because we have no room to talk other teams down.
 
I personally find these preseason polls meaningless.

I think we will be an above average team next season, but I believe we will sorely miss AJ's elite defense. The season next year will probably go much like this season. We will probably have a good regular season, be top have of B1G and then lose in the first weekend of NCAA against a team with athletic/better guards. Not being a pessimist but that is my realistic view of next year's team.

AJ erased so many defensive breakdowns and altered so many shots near the hoop. I love Haas, but he doesn't have the quickness and mobility like AJ. Too many times this season, I saw opposing bigs (a lot of times much smaller bigs) with good footwork and pivoting could get Issac out of position and create space quite easily around the rim (opposing bigs that go straight up have trouble obviously). I think Isaac is a hard worker, but I think improving foot speed - especially a big man like Isaac is probably the hardest thing to do in terms of changing your body. Combine that with Biggie as our other interior defender and I see us as having good bigs offensively, but giving up more points in the paint than this we did this past season.

We still will unlikely have dribble penetration from our wings/guards. Vince is the only one that can create. While I really like Carsen Edwards, I don't expect much from freshman in general due to the big step up in the speed of the game and athleticism of collegiate players.

I think we'll be better on the wings. Davis was a good defender, but provided very little offense. So, I think we'll be better with an off-season of our returning wings and have an additional threat on the floor (since Davis wasn't a threat). I hope Kendall returns because he would help next year - to me, there is something more to that transfer (just my opinion). Kendall didn't even attend the season ending banquet (and I don't find Kendall to be someone with an attitude and he seems very respectful of his teammates). I find that there was something more personal between the coaching staff and Kendall than just Kendall not working his way back into the rotation from his time off during the season (friend's death). He's not coming back next season.

I'm guessing we will probably still run out offense through the post. Isaac and Biggie. I personally would like to see Biggie stick to 17 feet and in since he is already so effective in that area. I'm sure he will improve his 3 point shot in the off season, but I'd personally rather see Cline, Mathias, Vince shoot our 3s.
 
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Though I really like what Haas and Biggie can do together on the offensive end I think they'll struggle defensively, especially against certain match ups. Point guard is going to be another question mark as well. Edwards looks like a really nice recruit but I never assume a freshmen is going to step in and be a difference maker. PJ was alright this year but will have to significantly improve aspects of his game if Purdue is going to be anything more than "good". I think Painter is a good coach but has deficiencies as well that may keep him from ever becoming "elite" and, like it or not (I happen to not like it), the college game is changing to a style that seems less suited for Painter's strengths.

My prediction would be a team that's ranked around 15-20 throughout the season, gets a 4-5 seed and gets to the 2nd round, maybe sweet 16.
 
I'm not entirely sold on Maryland, and to a lesser extent Wisconsin.

Yes, they point out that Wisconsin made a Sweet 16 - but they had also lost to Nebraska in their first game of the BTT a few days before. I'd say they are top 25 material, but #9 in the country? Eh, that seems a bit high.

Wisconsin is still underrated if anything. You conveniently are isolating negatives, which are few and were far out-weighed by positives after the first few games of the conference season, when a young, inexperienced team grew together. After a 1-4 start, still went on to finish tied for 3rd in conference, going on a streak winning 10 of 11. Then after the Nebraska embarrassment, went on to the Sweet 16, and should have advanced one round beyond that probably. Then return everybody. From seeing that, I don't know how being ranked in the top 10 is hard to fathom. Few would have a better carry over projection than that, ignoring newcomers.

And it's being overlooked by fans and media outside Wisconsin, but the Badgers actually have one of the better newcomers in the country by the name of Andy Van Vliet. Similarly to how they weren't aware of Ethan Happ before this season. They were both "redshirts", but Happ's was actually elective. Van Vliet was ruled ineligible because he enrolled over a year after he went to high school, coming from Belgium. He would have been in the rotation this past year if not for that. He was skinny, but a high level, NBA prospect talent. And now he's added a bunch of weight. He's a Kaminsky/Leuer hybrid who is drawing as much or more hype from practices as Happ was last year, only Van Vliet is nearly 2 years older than Happ was, and has much higher upside. He's a long 6'11", can shoot, put the ball on the deck, and actually jump over a phone book (a few of them probably) for shot blocking, rebounding, and the purpose of having a virtually unblockable shot. It seems you have to be a McDAA to get recognition as a newcomer, but guys like this have more impact than your average one. Happ was B1G freshmen of the year, and Van Vliet has as good of a shot as anyone for that honor this year. Wisconsin projects to be a top 5 or so team with that knowledge.
 
Talent on paper is good to talk about, but what actually happens is what matters. So many variables come into play. We will see.
 
That goes for McDAA true freshmen, even more so than 20-21 year old rs fr./so. who look like one of the best players in collegiate practices, but few have a problem hyping McDAA's and projecting they add value to the team they're joining.
 
That's the banner Puck will hang in the Hall before a sold out crowd.

Nah. He'll probably just hang the second outright Big Ten Championship he's won in the last four years.

You guys are hilarious. I also read in another thread that you all think that Haas/Swanigan front is better than Bryant/Deron Davis/OG. Can't make this stuff up. Good luck with that!
 
Nah. He'll probably just hang the second outright Big Ten Championship he's won in the last four years.

You guys are hilarious. I also read in another thread that you all think that Haas/Swanigan front is better than Bryant/Deron Davis/OG. Can't make this stuff up. Good luck with that!
Work on your reading comprehendsion little man. I said I give Bryant the edge over Haas, Swanigan over Davis, and Edwards the edge over OG for experience. I think your team will be very good. But you have again proven that YOU will always act like an ass. As far as your banner goes I thought all you believed that those silly BIG titles were meaningless. I guess they start to mean more when Crean tells you they do.
 
Work on your reading comprehendsion little man. I said I give Bryant the edge over Haas, Swanigan over Davis, and Edwards the edge over OG for experience. I think your team will be very good. But you have again proven that YOU will always act like an ass. As far as your banner goes I thought all you believed that those silly BIG titles were meaningless. I guess they start to mean more when Crean tells you they do.

Little man? Ok, husky girl.

The B1G championship is a great accomplishment. IU fans think he needs to get farther in the tournament and he's going to have that chance next year with a promising roster. But it is amazing that you would joke that he would hang a preseason banner when he is the reigning B1G champion. He doesn't need fake, Helms style banners.

Purdü hasn't done shite in the time frame that he's won two. He won the B1G a month ago and somehow managed not to piss away the season against something called Little Rock. Yet you guys are finding ways to talk. Must be interesting living in fantasy land! (And OG will be better than Edwards next season)
 
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Little man? Ok, husky girl.

The B1G championship is a great accomplishment. IU fans think he needs to get farther in the tournament and he's going to have that chance next year with a promising roster. But it is amazing that you would joke that he would hang a preseason banner when he is the reigning B1G champion. He doesn't need fake, Helms style banners.

Purdü hasn't done shite in the time frame that he's won two. He won the B1G a month ago and somehow managed not to piss away the season against something called Little Rock. Yet you guys are finding ways to talk. Must be interesting living in fantasy land! (And OG will be better than Edwards next season)
You are the idiot here. Bryant is better than Haas I'll give you that but Swanigan is better than Davis. I have no clue how you can say 4.9 PPG OG is better than Vince Edwards. Not every great athlete turns into a superstar. Absolutely ridiculous comments. Let me guess you suddenly think JBJ is IUs savior again too? Lastly, you guys saw where poor PG play got us in the big dance this season and that is what you guys are lined up for next season.
 
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You are the idiot here. Bryant is better than Haas I'll give you that but Swanigan is better than Davis. I have no clue how you can say 4.9 PPG OG is better than Vince Edwards. Not every great athlete turns into a superstar. Absolutely ridiculous comments. Let me guess you suddenly think JBJ is IUs savior again too? Lastly, you guys saw where poor PG play got us in the big dance this season and that is what you guys are lined up for next season.

lol. Going off ppg for a freshman who didn't play much the first half of the season and then played behind Troy. Analysts on the radio this week were discussing how OG would be drafted before Swanigan this year if he entered the draft. He is bigger faster and stronger than Edwards. Dude won't be able to score on OG at all.

JBJ won't play point but he will replace Zeisloft and be additive to what we got out of the 2 spot this year. Newkirk and Johnson are so much better than what you had in the backcourt this year that it's not even worth arguing about. Remember what happened when your pg went for the win against the Little Rock juggernaut? High comedy ensued. The type of comedy that keeps me coming back to this thread. I wish I was as clueless as some of you fools. Must be blissful.
 
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lol. Going off ppg for a freshman who didn't play much the first half of the season and then played behind Troy. Analysts on the radio this week were discussing how OG would be drafted before Swanigan this year if he entered the draft. He is bigger faster and stronger than Edwards. Dude won't be able to score on OG at all.

JBJ won't play point but he will replace Zeisloft and be additive to what we got out of the 2 spot this year. Newkirk and Johnson are so much better than what you had in the backcourt this year that it's not even worth arguing about. Remember what happened when your pg went for the win against the Little Rock juggernaut? High comedy ensued. The type of comedy that keeps me coming back to this thread. I wish I was as clueless as some of you fools. Must be blissful.
Yes because Rob Johnson a 100% SG will be a good PG. Oh wait you also have your Pitt transfer who regressed his freshman to sophmore year and then got a knee injury. PS you better get back to flipping burgers! Boss might see you slacking off since you've been posting so much.
 
Exactly why IU fans are hated! Arrogant, won't ever admit they are wrong, gotta run their mouths about anything IU has ever done, and try to force their opinions on everyone else.
 
Yes because Rob Johnson a 100% SG will be a good PG. Oh wait you also have your Pitt transfer who regressed his freshman to sophmore year and then got a knee injury. PS you better get back to flipping burgers! Boss might see you slacking off since you've been posting so much.

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I found a picture of you trying to be funny. Coincidentally, it's also really similar to a picture of Painter trying to get past Little Rock.

Johnson handled the ball plenty and I'll let you read about Newkirk for yourself: http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye...e-transfers-that-will-have-the-biggest-impact

Painter would sacrifice his favorite cheerleader for either of those guys.

I'm still confused how you can even talk? You lost to Little Rock. I've never heard of that school. IU won the B1G. There really is nothing for you to say, yet here you are yapping your flabby traps.
 
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I found a picture of you trying to be funny. Coincidentally, it's also really similar to a picture of Painter trying to get past Little Rock.

Johnson handled the ball plenty and I'll let you read about Newkirk for yourself: http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye...e-transfers-that-will-have-the-biggest-impact

Painter would sacrifice his favorite cheerleader for either of those guys.

I'm still confused how you can even talk? You lost to Little Rock. I've never heard of that school. IU won the B1G. There really is nothing for you to say, yet here you are yapping your flabby traps.
Last I saw MSU won the big. IU played the softest unbalanced schedule in big history to earn that banner of which you are so proud. Enjoy it along with all of your cliche obnoxious Hooiser fan ramblings.
 
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