Trump Tariffs.....good or bad?

[Boiler Buck]

Generally Tariffs are a "tax" on goods. Can be bad as Harris inflation "tax", but not quite.

But not what Trump is talking about.

As I understand Trump's Tariffs he wants Tariffs on specific, targeted incoming items ONLY where America makes the product & makes a plethora of it well. An example would be foreign cars. Another example would be John Deere moving business to Mexico where he wants them to stay here. In other words if America makes the product well, he wants American companies to compete on an even field.

It should be noted that if American companies want to sell cars in most other countries, the other country charges a Tariff. So T's specific, targeted Tarrifs seem more fair and good for America & American companies & workers.

What wouldn't be good for anyone if Trump charges Tariffs on say Chinese production where we do not have the same product being produced here. Haven't heard of him wanting to do that, but as much as he hates China, certainly is a possibility. That would be terrible.

Broad reaching tariffs cause trade wars and are bad for everyone.....whereas there is less chance with specific targeted Tariffs.

Bottom line......huge difference between specific targeted Tariffs VS. broad ranging Tariffs. The former reasonable people should understand & be ok with.......the latter be 100% against.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Generally Tariffs are a "tax" on goods. Can be bad as Harris inflation "tax", but not quite.

But not what Trump is talking about.

As I understand Trump's Tariffs he wants Tariffs on specific, targeted incoming items ONLY where America makes the product & makes a plethora of it well. An example would be foreign cars. Another example would be John Deere moving business to Mexico where he wants them to stay here. In other words if America makes the product well, he wants American companies to compete on an even field.

It should be noted that if American companies want to sell cars in most other countries, the other country charges a Tariff. So T's specific, targeted Tarrifs seem more fair and good for America & American companies & workers.

What wouldn't be good for anyone if Trump charges Tariffs on say Chinese production where we do not have the same product being produced here. Haven't heard of him wanting to do that, but as much as he hates China, certainly is a possibility. That would be terrible.

Broad reaching tariffs cause trade wars and are bad for everyone.....whereas there is less chance with specific targeted Tariffs.

Bottom line......huge difference between specific targeted Tariffs VS. broad ranging Tariffs. The former reasonable people should understand & be ok with.......the latter be 100% against.

Yes, the tarrifs Trump has talked about have been targeted at specific goods and specific countries. They would overall be good.

 

[BB62]

Generally Tariffs are a "tax" on goods. Can be bad as Harris inflation "tax", but not quite.

But not what Trump is talking about.

As I understand Trump's Tariffs he wants Tariffs on specific, targeted incoming items ONLY where America makes the product & makes a plethora of it well. An example would be foreign cars. Another example would be John Deere moving business to Mexico where he wants them to stay here. In other words if America makes the product well, he wants American companies to compete on an even field.

It should be noted that if American companies want to sell cars in most other countries, the other country charges a Tariff. So T's specific, targeted Tarrifs seem more fair and good for America & American companies & workers.

What wouldn't be good for anyone if Trump charges Tariffs on say Chinese production where we do not have the same product being produced here. Haven't heard of him wanting to do that, but as much as he hates China, certainly is a possibility. That would be terrible.

Broad reaching tariffs cause trade wars and are bad for everyone.....whereas there is less chance with specific targeted Tariffs.

Bottom line......huge difference between specific targeted Tariffs VS. broad ranging Tariffs. The former reasonable people should understand & be ok with.......the latter be 100% against.

Has he tried to explain this........sometime, somewhere?

 

[Boiler Buck]

Has he tried to explain this........sometime, somewhere?

I seem to know exactly what he will do only by listening to the radio. Sorry you are uniformed.

But listen, even Biden has some tariffs....they have been used successfully forever by multiple Presidents.

My worry is how he deals with China. I see a possible trade war there. But never had one last time with T. So perhaps that worry is overblown.

Speaking of communicating policies....did you check out Harris's MSNBC interview today?? Part of that was on tariffs. I thought the Oprah deal was bad, but this one was a train wreck. Well at least she's consistent.

 

[Purdue95Grad]

I seem to know exactly what he will do only by listening to the radio. Sorry you are uniformed.

But listen, even Biden has some tariffs....they have been used successfully forever by multiple Presidents.

My worry is how he deals with China. I see a possible trade war there. But never had one last time with T. So perhaps that worry is overblown.

Speaking of communicating policies....did you check out Harris's MSNBC interview today?? Part of that was on tariffs. I thought the Oprah deal was bad, but this one was a train wreck. Well at least she's consistent.

Uhh, you made an assumption. So in your mind of course it makes sense but in reality, you have no idea because he’s never really explained it. I’m sure he will fully explain his concept of a tariff plan any day now.

 

[TheGunner]

Uhh, you made an assumption. So in your mind of course it makes sense but in reality, you have no idea because he’s never really explained it. I’m sure he will fully explain his concept of a tariff plan any day now.

Trump has already implemented tariffs, so there is a record on how he uses tariffs. In fact, Biden uses them too.

If they are bad, why hasn’t Biden eliminated them?

 

[Purdue95Grad]

Trump has already implemented tariffs, so there is a record on how he uses tariffs. In fact, Biden uses them too.

If they are bad, why hasn’t Biden eliminated them?

Cool. Wasn’t what Buck was referring to, though.

 

[BB62]

I seem to know exactly what he will do only by listening to the radio. Sorry you are uniformed.

But listen, even Biden has some tariffs....they have been used successfully forever by multiple Presidents.

My worry is how he deals with China. I see a possible trade war there. But never had one last time with T. So perhaps that worry is overblown.

Speaking of communicating policies....did you check out Harris's MSNBC interview today?? Part of that was on tariffs. I thought the Oprah deal was bad, but this one was a train wreck. Well at least she's consistent.

"I seem to know exactly what he will do only by listening to the radio. Sorry you are uniformed. "

Is this a joke? If I don't believe your interpretation of his policy, I'm uninformed? Would you accept that from someone talking about a Harris policy? Does saying I'm uninformed make you feel better about this BS thread?

 

[Boiler Buck]

"I seem to know exactly what he will do only by listening to the radio. Sorry you are uniformed. "

Is this a joke? If I don't believe your interpretation of his policy, I'm uninformed? Would you accept that from someone talking about a Harris policy? Does saying I'm uninformed make you feel better about this BS thread?

You admitted you were uniformed.
Quote: "Has he tried to explain this........sometime, somewhere?"

The reader would have to infer from the above that you have not heard his explanation.....thus since he has talked about this often, & has a record on tariffs...you are uninformed.

Not an insult.....just a fact given your quote.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Being from NW Indiana, the steel capital of North America, I was in favor of the Chump China steel tariffs initially. Our democratic congressman along with the congressman from other steelmaking area in Pittsburgh and Birmingham, AL fought hard for those tariffs. However those tariffs turned out to be a horrible idea as they created a trade war with the Chinese. If I recall farm prices of soy beans and other products were negatively affected by those China steel tariffs. The steel tariffs were way too aggressive. The steel tariffs that Bush the Younger had were much less aggressive.

 

[Katscratch]

It's like many policies - there may be some real value if executed properly. There is a downside if not executed properly.

 

[BB62]

You admitted you were uniformed.
Quote: "Has he tried to explain this........sometime, somewhere?"

The reader would have to infer from the above that you have not heard his explanation.....thus since he has talked about this often, & has a record on tariffs...you are uninformed.

Not an insult.....just a fact given your quote.

I am uninformed because I have not heard him give the explanation you did. He has talked about tariffs often. Since, according to you, he has talked about these details often it should be no problem for you to post a link. This is twice I've asked. I'll believe it if you can prove he actually said it.

 

[BoilerJS]

Being from NW Indiana, the steel capital of North America, I was in favor of the Chump China steel tariffs initially. Our democratic congressman along with the congressman from other steelmaking area in Pittsburgh and Birmingham, AL fought hard for those tariffs. However those tariffs turned out to be a horrible idea as they created a trade war with the Chinese. If I recall farm prices of soy beans and other products were negatively affected by those China steel tariffs. The steel tariffs were way too aggressive. The steel tariffs that Bush the Younger had were much less aggressive.

Yes the tariffs hurt the Soybean farmers. That's why the money collected from the tariffs went to the Soybean Farmers.
It helped the steel industry.
Trump has also addressed this in his speeches. He will hold China to their agriculture products purchase agreement.

 

[bonefish1]

I think the main point is that Trump is proposing policies that will help American people, businesses and the economy while penalizing or disincentivizing activity that hurts Americans.
As Scratch mentions, there is some nuance in how it's administered and applied in terms of the positive impact.

 

[Katscratch]

I think the main point is that Trump is proposing policies that will help American people, businesses and the economy while penalizing or disincentivizing activity that hurts Americans.
As Scratch mentions, there is some nuance in how it's administered and applied in terms of the positive impact.

Here’s what I worry about:

Trump had plenty of adults at the start of his first administration. Mattis, Mnuchin, Kelley, Cohn, McMaster, on and on and on. He hated them all. By the very end of His first administration he was desperately trying to install sycophants and intellectually incurious cabinet members—holy hell he already tried to get Jeffrey Clark, Ronny Jackson, and Kash Patel in positions of extraordinary authority!

So those policies you liked? Wait until you have Stephen Miller or Kari Lake in charge of a federal government department.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I am uninformed because I have not heard him give the explanation you did. He has talked about tariffs often. Since, according to you, he has talked about these details often it should be no problem for you to post a link. This is twice I've asked. I'll believe it if you can prove he actually said it.

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Refers to what he did last time on tariffs..... he will do the same starting Jan 22, 2025. So same.

Looks like the media & even Ol' Mitch McConnell have plenty of negativity about tariffs per the articles out there.

So it looks like Dems will have plenty of coder on tariffs starting Jan 21.

Me I am lukewarm on tariffs as per above. But if you understand competition, you see why they can be good for America if used sparingly. But if he goes overboard, I will condem it. He did not last time.....thus don't think he will this time based on history.

However, in speeches this fall he has talked about broad 10 & 20% tariffs. Even mentioned 200% on John Deere. Other than John Deere, that is overboard, NOT what he did last time and should've condemned unless they turn out to be targeted Tariffs.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Chump certainly went overboard on the steel tariffs.

 

[SKYDOG]

Chump certainly went overboard on the steel tariffs.

He might have saved your job.

 

[Boiler Buck]

He might have saved your job.

That's the purpose of these targeted Tariffs.

Trouble with Trump he is a such a poor communicator, he gives the lib media openings to slay him on tariffs, as they are hardly interested in accurate reporting. Just google Trump & Tariffs and you will see examples.

There are millions on the left that cannot think for themselves, or remember Trump Tariffs before, and they gobble the above slanted BS articles up as truth.

 

[Riveting]

Has he tried to explain this........sometime, somewhere?

Yes, just the other day he explained it to John Deere.

Pennsylvania farmers cheer Trump’s 200% tariff threat on John Deere: ‘They can’t be high enough’

Donald Trump threatened to slap 200% tariffs on John Deere if the company moved to Mexico. Some farmers say it’s about time.

nypost.com

 

[Riveting]

In the meantime, the Vice Puppet was elaborating on her policies, calling on voters to move on from “failed policies” that “we have proven don’t work” during a speech meant to detail her economic plans.

Kamala Harris ridiculed after urging Americans to move on from ‘failed policies’: ‘New Trump ad just dropped’

Vice President Kamala Harris faced ridicule on social media after she called for Americans to move on from the “failed policies” that “we have proven don’t work,” in a…

nypost.com

 

[BB62]

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Refers to what he did last time on tariffs..... he will do the same starting Jan 22, 2025. So same.

Looks like the media & even Ol' Mitch McConnell have plenty of negativity about tariffs per the articles out there.

So it looks like Dems will have plenty of coder on tariffs starting Jan 21.

Me I am lukewarm on tariffs as per above. But if you understand competition, you see why they can be good for America if used sparingly. But if he goes overboard, I will condem it. He did not last time.....thus don't think he will this time based on history.

However, in speeches this fall he has talked about broad 10 & 20% tariffs. Even mentioned 200% on John Deere. Other than John Deere, that is overboard, NOT what he did last time and should've condemned unless they turn out to be targeted Tariffs.

For Pete's sake. Still nothing. I read the part about fair trade. The word tariff was mentioned once. No specifics. Certainly nothing like what you posted. Zero about targeted tariffs.

Are you sure your post wasn't what you think he should do as opposed to what he says he will do?

This was his answer the other day when asked about tariffs and their effect. Seemed like a perfect time to explain his policy........as if he even understands who really pays for the tariffs. Instead, he deflects to.......?.........congress approving them?

 

[Boiler Buck]

In the meantime, the Vice Puppet was elaborating on her policies, calling on voters to move on from “failed policies” that “we have proven don’t work” during a speech meant to deta

I gave you a holistic view of his vision for tariffs. Does a holistic look only count for Dems.? I understand it's all the rage. You know....holisticly

Apparently, you disagree with T on tariffs. Since you are not voting for him why are you so concerned?

Scenario 1 ....I'm correct on what he is planning.
Scenario 2 ....I'm wrong.

Either way you're not voting for him under either scenario.....and under both you are going to believe what lib media tells you anyway . That's my holistic look at it you know. LOL

 

[Riveting]

I gave you a holistic view of his vision for tariffs. Does a holistic look only count for Dems.? I understand it's all the rage. You know....holisticly

Apparently, you disagree with T on tariffs. Since you are not voting for him why are you so concerned?

Scenario 1 ....I'm correct on what he is planning.
Scenario 2 ....I'm wrong.

Either way you're not voting for him under either scenario.....and under both you are going to believe what lib media tells you anyway . That's my holistic look at it you know. LOL

Buck, you post was intended for one of our various dem libs.

I know it is hard to keep them straight amid all their lib gibberish (lib gib), but if you look at it holistically, you will find the inspiration not to be burdened by what has been.

 

[bonefish1]

I gave you a holistic view of his vision for tariffs. Does a holistic look only count for Dems.? I understand it's all the rage. You know....holisticly

Apparently, you disagree with T on tariffs. Since you are not voting for him why are you so concerned?

Scenario 1 ....I'm correct on what he is planning.
Scenario 2 ....I'm wrong.

Either way you're not voting for him under either scenario.....and under both you are going to believe what lib media tells you anyway . That's my holistic look at it you know. LOL

Trump could offer Bob $1M to vote for him and Bob would still vote dem. His TDS is that bad.

 

[SKYDOG]

Trump could offer Bob $1M to vote for him and Bob would still vote dem. His TDS is that bad.

I’ll take the other side and Bob would take the money and continue his crusade on the message board. 💰 😂

 

[Riveting]

I’ll take the other side and Bob would take the money and continue his crusade on the message board. 💰 😂

He could upgrade his van.

 

[Riveting]

For Pete's sake. Still nothing. I read the part about fair trade. The word tariff was mentioned once. No specifics. Certainly nothing like what you posted. Zero about targeted tariffs.

Are you sure your post wasn't what you think he should do as opposed to what he says he will do?

This was his answer the other day when asked about tariffs and their effect. Seemed like a perfect time to explain his policy........as if he even understands who really pays for the tariffs. Instead, he deflects to.......?.........congress approving them?

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Crow and the Vice Puppet kept many of the Trump tariffs. The MSNBC hack even asked VP about it in her 'interview' this week, not that she answered with anything intelligible.

Plus, this:

Harris Is Going After Trump’s Tariff Proposals. Dems Messaging on Biden’s Policy Is Less Clear-Cut.

New Biden administration tariff hikes take effect Friday, including increasing rates for electric vehicles to 100% and battery parts to 25%.

www.notus.org

 

[Boiler Buck]

Crow and the Vice Puppet kept many of the Trump tariffs. The MSNBC hack even asked VP about it in her 'interview' this week, not that she answered with anything intelligible.

Plus, this:

Harris Is Going After Trump’s Tariff Proposals. Dems Messaging on Biden’s Policy Is Less Clear-Cut.

New Biden administration tariff hikes take effect Friday, including increasing rates for electric vehicles to 100% and battery parts to 25%.

www.notus.org

That's why this is funny....Biden kept alot of these Tariffs. Haven't heard the Dems on here rant about tariffs for 4 years!

Now I bring it up and ol' Bob goes nuts because Trump is mentioned.

 

[BNIBoiler]

He might have saved your job.

You mean my black job?

 

[Riveting]

You mean my black job?

Do you think of your job as a black job?

 

[BNIBoiler]

Do you think of your job as a black job?

Apparently Chump does.

 

[SKYDOG]

You mean my black job?

You never answered what black job you hold. Help out the board what a black job is.

 

[Riveting]

Apparently Chump does.

No he doesn't. He doesn't know what your job is.

Maybe you're an engineer, which has a very low percentage of blacks. Are you afraid to tell us your job?

 

[BNIBoiler]

You never answered what black job you hold. Help out the board what a black job is.

According to Chump, a black job is any job a black person holds. According to Chump, he's going to stop the immigrants so they won't take my black job.

 

[SKYDOG]

According to Chump, a black job is any job a black person holds. According to Chump, he's going to stop the immigrants so they won't take my black job.

Is that something said that was taken out of context or really what he meant? I hope he does stop the illegal immigrants.

 

[Boiler Buck]

According to Chump, a black job is any job a black person holds. According to Chump, he's going to stop the immigrants so they won't take my black job.

Sounds like you were really offended.

Hope you can holisticly recover from this holistic career threat to your well being you know. Holisticly, I can see how it would shatter you to the core. I hope you become unburdened by what has been.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Is that something said that was taken out of context or really what he meant? I hope he does stop the illegal immigrants.

Dude, Chump has been talking about the so called black jobs all summer. That the immigrants will be taking the jobs away from blacks. Not true because they ain’t taking away my job. That’s was one of the questions ask of him during that Chicago black journalist forum that he embarrassed himself with. Since that forum fiasco blacks have been trying to figure and made jokes about what the so and so is a black job in the first place. We all on this forum talked about this before.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Sounds like you were really offended.

Hope you can holisticly recover from this holistic career threat to your well being you know. Holisticly, I can see how it would shatter you to the core. I hope you become unburdened by what has been.

Many blacks were offended with that foolinsh statement of a black job by Chump.

 

[Purdue95Grad]

Well thank god we have this further clarification about his plan for tariffs. Makes perfect sense now. Maybe Buck can offer up some further clarification here since he also speaks stupid.