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Trump judge just made travel great again

Yeah, because fukk science and all that.

Also, just to get it out of the way: woke, mob, liberal, etc etc etc because you have zero other talking points than the ones spoon fed you by Joe Rogan
Fukk science? As in; a man wanting to be a woman doesn't make him a woman.....You mean that kind of science?
 
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I don’t care one way or the other. My point was it wasn’t a big deal to wear a mask in the grand scheme. Make travel great again? Flying generally sucks, period. The masks had nothing to do with that. That’s all i’m saying.
How long will you wear a mask in public? Until Ole Joe tells you it's OK not to wear one?
 
In one post you say "fukk science". And then in the next post you say this. Such conviction to "science".

I just traveled on a plane a few weeks ago. If we're going to follow "science", the fact that the flight attendant is pouring me drinks and handing me food while I'm lowering my mask to drink/eat literally shoulder to shoulder with others is about as hypocritical as it gets. But let's keep making people wear masks so Karens like you can feel better...
Yeah, it's sad, but to the left science had become a political football they can punt around to meet their political desires and opinions. It's manipulated constantly (has been since before covid even) to back up what they think. It's unfortunately been the case for a long time now that you see a scientific study and you have to question it's legitimacy and ask who is paying for it. It's really not hard to manipulate a study and design essentially valid experiments to deliver the results you are looking for. It's incomplete science at best then.

With the mask, it wasn't to hard to look at the studies, look at the experiments and see how they were setup and designed and realize those did reflect real world conditions. They were designed to work. And then they use the justification of the CDC and Doctors say as justification. Those two groups are not experts in that area, you would be far better off talking to engineers and such that actually develop and study air flow filtration.
 
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Good lord people are stupid. Science says mask don't work (short of properly fitted, actual N95 mask) just as the science actually said before COVID. People start throwing a fit about people not having to wear them by posting pictures of them in cheap mask where you can clearly see they are not tightly fitted and sealed around the face like is needed to actually work any while saying "SCIENCE". I'm surprised these people can even actually spell "SCIENCE".

And just because your mask is stamped 95, doesn't make it a N95 mask. It's just marketing trying to say the filter material is qualified to that level, but the fit is clearly not.
It’s amazing how much miscommunication happens when idiots get a microphone or a Twitter account to provide their revisions to “science” or when scientists ignore other scientists data and pontificate their own (political) agenda.

Or when non-scientists or even real scientists challenge new data that changes the accepted narrative…such as how important cloth masks are to reducing transmission. GASP

And now that everyone has an N95 mask…why would you need someone to also wear an N95 mask?

It’s lunacy.
 
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In one post you say "fukk science". And then in the next post you say this. Such conviction to "science".

I just traveled on a plane a few weeks ago. If we're going to follow "science", the fact that the flight attendant is pouring me drinks and handing me food while I'm lowering my mask to drink/eat literally shoulder to shoulder with others is about as hypocritical as it gets. But let's keep making people wear masks so Karens like you can feel better...
I was responding specifically to robin, so don’t worry about it, Pat
 
Biden doubling down. I hope he wins just so his approval ratings tank even further…

This is absolutely unnecessary because it was set to expire anyway. I can’t even imagine flight attendants bothering to try enforcing it if it gets reversed. That’s Just too much on them to deal with.
 
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This is absolutely unnecessary because it was set to expire anyway. I can’t even imagine flight attendants bothering to try enforcing it if it gets reversed. That’s Just too much on them to deal with.
No it wasn't absolutely unnecessary. The mask mandate was set to "expire" 5 other times as well, and extended every time. We know cloth masks don't work, and people were allowed to take them off to eat and drink anyway.

Meanwhile mask mandates had already ended in basketball arenas, restaurants, stores etc across the country and most other places as well.
 
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No it wasn't absolutely unnecessary. The mask mandate was set to "expire" 5 other times as well, and extended every time. We know cloth masks don't work, and people were allowed to take them off to eat and drink anyway.

Meanwhile mask mandates had already ended in basketball arenas, restaurants, stores etc across the country and most other places as well.
I meant the appeal is unnecessary
 
Biden doubling down. I hope he wins just so his approval ratings tank even further…

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So the CDC has no authority anymore? Super!! What a great precedent this judge just set!

Actually, I believe the point is, they never really had any. They are just to advice and other people have the authority to make decisions off of their recommendations. Instead it became them as the judge, jury and executor. They had no check and balance and were greatly overstepping their role.
 
Actually, I believe the point is, they never really had any. They are just to advice and other people have the authority to make decisions off of their recommendations. Instead it became them as the judge, jury and executor. They had no check and balance and were greatly overstepping their role.
Even in an emergency situation? The mask mandate was going to expire anyway so why make a ruling at this late stage? Seems pretty short sighted. I'd need to read her opinion but I don't think she permits an exception for an emergency. Perhaps she ruled that the masks no longer were necessary because we weren't in an emergency situation any longer but she heard no evidence to that fact she just issued her ruling, which seemed to be based upon a seat of the pants determination by her and her alone. Completely off the wall imo.
 
So the CDC has no authority anymore? Super!! What a great precedent this judge just set!
Should an agency like the CDC have unlimited/unchecked power forever? I think everyone understood the reasons in March of 2020 for deferring to CDC, two years later not so much.
 
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Even in an emergency situation? The mask mandate was going to expire anyway so why make a ruling at this late stage?
They kept extending the mask mandate. They had already extended it 5 times, why wouldn't they have extended it a 6th time? We are no longer in an emergency situation.
 
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Even in an emergency situation? The mask mandate was going to expire anyway so why make a ruling at this late stage? Seems pretty short sighted. I'd need to read her opinion but I don't think she permits an exception for an emergency. Perhaps she ruled that the masks no longer were necessary because we weren't in an emergency situation any longer but she heard no evidence to that fact she just issued her ruling, which seemed to be based upon a seat of the pants determination by her and her alone. Completely off the wall imo.
It's not an emergency anymore and it has become more political than anything. That is a huge issue as now trust in the CDC has become very suspect at best.
 
Should an agency like the CDC have unlimited/unchecked power forever? I think everyone understood the reasons in March of 2020 for deferring to CDC, two years later not so much.
You are seeing the same thing being questioned in many cases with Governors emergency powers. The original rules granting them emergency powers were written at a time when travel was far more difficult and slow, plus there was not any means to meet virtually. I think the emergency power rules are outdated and need to be addressed any many cases. That is one thing all of this has shown us.

Elected officials are put in place for a reason and eventually it's up them to represent the people that put them there and base decisions off of that, even in emergency situations when they draw at this long and there has been more than ample time for them to convene, discuss and make a decision. Governors emergency power needs to be limited to the amount of time it takes for a larger representative body to make a decision, not be able to self extend orders so they can continually act as emperor over the people.
 
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Even in an emergency situation? The mask mandate was going to expire anyway so why make a ruling at this late stage? Seems pretty short sighted. I'd need to read her opinion but I don't think she permits an exception for an emergency. Perhaps she ruled that the masks no longer were necessary because we weren't in an emergency situation any longer but she heard no evidence to that fact she just issued her ruling, which seemed to be based upon a seat of the pants determination by her and her alone. Completely off the wall imo.
It has been extended multiple times. Is this truly an “emergency” situation now? it was last extended in mid-April.

 
This is absolutely unnecessary because it was set to expire anyway. I can’t even imagine flight attendants bothering to try enforcing it if it gets reversed. That’s Just too much on them to deal with.
Biden just can't help stepping in it every time he turns around. The fact that he's trying to appeal this at this stage of the game just makes ZERO sense. At this point, it's all about control, and not "science"...

And then he wonders why the prospect for Dems in November is pretty ugly...
 
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It has been extended multiple times. Is this truly an “emergency” situation now? it was last extended in mid-April.

A judge should hear evidence or base her decision on more than her own opinion. I think she made a knee jerk reaction without thinking of the long term consequences which is why it is going to be appealed. The government almost has to because of her ruling. I'm not saying she isn't right but she didn't do it correctly.
 
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A judge should hear evidence or base her decision on more than her own opinion. I think she made a knee jerk reaction without thinking of the long term consequences which is why it is going to be appealed. The government almost has to because of her ruling. I'm not saying she isn't right but she didn't do it correctly.
I think hearing that it’s ok to eat and drink without a mask in public transportation settings would be evidence enough that this situation isn’t a truly emergency situation.

what’s the science behind its OK to pull your mask down to eat. Does COVID not spread if you’re eating?

I hope Joe and the CDC win. The uproar from America would be priceless.

I just came back from Florida and 75% of the people were wearing their masks like “chin diapers” (below their nose and mouth) if they were wearing one at all. But let’s appease the 25%, who if they are wearing an N95 mask properly, would not be impacted by someone else not wearing a mask. Oh and the government is distributing N95 masks for FREE!

There is absolutely no science behind the need for mask mandates in public transportation
 
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A judge should hear evidence or base her decision on more than her own opinion. I think she made a knee jerk reaction without thinking of the long term consequences which is why it is going to be appealed. The government almost has to because of her ruling. I'm not saying she isn't right but she didn't do it correctly.
Yes, because we need more government control...

At this point, the pandemic isn't an emergency. The CDC and Biden lost power. And they don't like it...
 
Biden just can't help stepping in it every time he turns around. The fact that he's trying to appeal this at this stage of the game just makes ZERO sense. At this point, it's all about control, and not "science"...

And then he wonders why the prospect for Dems in November is pretty ugly...
They’re not appealing to get people to put them back on though, at least from my understanding/what I saw on the news this morning.
 
Yes, because we need more government control...

At this point, the pandemic isn't an emergency. The CDC and Biden lost power. And they don't like it...
You mean we should not follow centuries of courtroom procedures. What could go wrong?
 
They’re not appealing to get people to put them back on though, at least from my understanding/what I saw on the news this morning.
If it’s true the Biden Administration isn’t appealing to get people to put them back on, I cannot wait for the emotional fallout on MSNBC.

 
I think hearing that it’s ok to eat and drink without a mask in public transportation settings would be evidence enough that this situation isn’t a truly emergency situation.

what’s the science behind its OK to pull your mask down to eat. Does COVID not spread if you’re eating?

I hope Joe and the CDC win. The uproar from America would be priceless.

I just came back from Florida and 75% of the people were wearing their masks like “chin diapers” (below their nose and mouth) if they were wearing one at all. But let’s appease the 25%, who if they are wearing an N95 mask properly, would not be impacted by someone else not wearing a mask. Oh and the government is distributing N95 masks for FREE!

There is absolutely no science behind the need for mask mandates in public transportation

Actually, the science says the covid virus does not get spread when you're sitting down in a restaurant, only when you're walking through one, thus why you can take your mask off when sitting in a restaurant at a table but have to wear one when waiting for your table. It's the most intelligent virus created by man.
 
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I fly fairly regularly. Every flight I've been on several people take off their masks with zero word from anyone.
Then we've had different flying experiences. Thankfully, a judge came to their senses and masks are gone. But, if you feel safer wearing one, be my guest. Hell, wear two if it makes you feel extra safe.
 
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