Keep telling yourself that. I supposed Trudeau's resignation had nothing to do with Trump either?
Trump flexed, Hamas caved.. Shocker
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It's already happened. Trump's tough talk about 25% tariffs moved two foreign governments: 1. Canada dumped the Trudeau creature and 2. Mexico's president turned the caravans of migrants back south. And you will see Hamas cave in within the next couple of weeks.
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Nope.
This is how this MAGA BS is a cult. Y’all are mesmerized by this one man. A person that is basically a functional illiterate.
If you say Trump is a functional illiterate, what does that make the guy you voted for?
Man BNI, your TDS is increasing. You, Bob and Wole are gonna have a tough 4 years.
Your cult behavior is increasing. Keep drinking that Flavor Aid.
He IS that blinded by his TDS.C'mon Man.....(as Joe would say). You know, with 100% certainty, that the only reason Hamas is releasing the hostages now is because of the threat Trump issued.
Do you think it's just coincidence that this is happening the week before the deadline Trump issued? Surely you're not that naive and blinded by your TDS.
Just admit, Trump won this one (again).
I would encourage you to read this article.
Vivian Bercovici: Thanks to Trump's threats, Hamas finally releasing hostages
Incoming American president is feared in the Middle Eastnationalpost.com
Yes, lets give credit to Biden at the 11:59.99999999999999th hour when he hasn't been able to do anything. Not the incoming guy that has made tough demands before he gets into office and golly gee, it's happening RIGHT before he gets in office. Biden had plenty of time to make something happen and he couldn't. It's PAINFULLY obvious this is the Trump effect, but you obviously watch MSNBC way more than you let on.
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How about slow Joe and Kammi pissing the Israelis off to the point BeBe refused to speak with Biden? And now, with Trump being in the negotiations with the Biden team in the last two weeks...as admitted by Blinken today...there's a so-called settlement.
Headline: Trump administration moves to send $8b in arms to Israel, bypassing some lawmakers
Date: Feb 9, 2025
The State Department has given Congress formal notification that it plans to move forward with sales of more than $8 billion in weapons to Israel. So why does Israel need weapons during a ceasefire? Well, as soon as the surviving hostages are returned, Israel is gonna eliminate Iran's enrichment facilities and oil terminals.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/02...stration-israel-weapons/?s_campaign=8315:varf
Date: Feb 9, 2025
The State Department has given Congress formal notification that it plans to move forward with sales of more than $8 billion in weapons to Israel. So why does Israel need weapons during a ceasefire? Well, as soon as the surviving hostages are returned, Israel is gonna eliminate Iran's enrichment facilities and oil terminals.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/02...stration-israel-weapons/?s_campaign=8315:varf
Iran is in a deep economic recession right now even though their oil revenue continues. This is the time to cut their balls off. Eliminating their oil funding and destroying their nuke capability will send them back to the Middle Ages.
Iran’s Deepening Economic Crisis and Its Impact on the Population - Iran News Update
The Iranian economy is in dire straits, with a volatile currency, rampant inflation, and an overwhelming cost of living that has driven millions into poverty.
irannewsupdate.com
I don't disagree, but I'd rather see their leadership's balls cut off at the same time and put a friendly into the top spots. It's been done before and could be done again. Save the country for the people to live in peace.Iran is in a deep economic recession right now even though their oil revenue continues. This is the time to cut their balls off. Eliminating their oil funding and destroying their nuke capability will send them back to the Middle Ages.
Iran’s Deepening Economic Crisis and Its Impact on the Population - Iran News Update
The Iranian economy is in dire straits, with a volatile currency, rampant inflation, and an overwhelming cost of living that has driven millions into poverty.
Trump Tells Bret Baier Palestinians Not Welcome Back to Gaza in His ‘Beautiful Real Estate Development’ Plan.
And the next day? Hamas cancels hostage exchanges and the cease fire is pretty much kaput.This is what it’s like to have an intellectually incurious narcissist in the White House.
Both of those wars he promised to end on his first day? Please Donnie. Please.
Let Hamas challenge Trump. He'll exterminate them all without blinking. He'll provide Israel anything and everything they need to finish the job.
My prediction:Hamas starts releasing hostages again very soon. (and then the Israeli army still kills them all).
Let's hope so.
The world knows that Trump is full of it, so that works against him. Trump has a yellow streak down his back a mile wide.
You're flat-out lying. Hamas cancelled the hostage release because they claimed Israel violated the cease-fire. Trump had nothing to do with it.
I didn’t say “because”, I said the next day. Where’s the lie?
And I and pretty sure we can agree that Hamas would readily lie about, well, anything, including the various complex geopolitical factors that caused them to back out of the unwinding of this.
So in the days after Trump said he would annex Gaza as a US resort and the day after he said the 2,000,000 people in Gaza would not be allowed to return, Hamas said “back to battle.”
Look, you clearly implied it was cause and effect. Now you're weaseling "I didn't say because . . ."
No. I said exactly what I meant and I’m doing that now too.
I’ll go one farther for you and it’s certainly not an anti-Trump take: these statements about the US militarily invading Gaza are not just Trump talking out of his ass.
They clearly have been vetted and coordinated with Israel, with the belief that the hostages aren’t being released to their satisfaction, they think they can eliminate Hamas entirely, or other factors we don’t know about. The danger is reigniting the war over a game of chicken with terrorists. Netanyahu and Trump are working this together and spent the end of last week in the same room.
Hamas is a guerilla organization, like the Viet Cong or the Taliban. There is no standing Hamas Army. Hamas and the "people of Gaza" are one in the same. The Hamas terrorists are farmers and laborers and shopkeepers who go jihad to kill infidels when ordered to do so. Those people of Gaza are not ‘innocent civilians’. They are Hamas terrorists and their enablers.
Genocide is an ugly word, but that is the best solution for Hamas. To them, this is a holy war, a jihad, and their troops believe that Allah will reward each of them with an houri of 72 virgins if they die fighting infidels in a jihad.
Well said, not all 2,000,000 of them, but yes!
No. Just no. Are you suggesting that US sponsored intentional genocide of 2,000,000 people is in any way okay? My God man.
These moslem jihadists will continue to kill infidels and seek their 72 virgins in paradise until they are eliminated. That's why 2,000 Americans perished on 9/11/01. That is all they know and all they want. Virgins in paradise. We don't need to kill them, just get them out of Gaza. Hamas/Palestine is a culture/society that needs to be eliminated.
You want the US government to relocate 2 million people on another continent?
Good Lord, that is the most invasive use of American sons and daughters imaginable.
No. No way.
That was a disaster. So we agree; dumping the cease fire and end of the bloodshed in favor of full-scale American intervention in Gaza is a terrible idea.
And Trump's provocation is spurring that.
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So what's the alternative? You give in to the terrorist and reward them for being terrorists?
Sorry, but Trump and BN don't subscribe to the democrat idea of "Let's be nice to them and maybe they won't hate us"
I'm all for eliminating Hama and Gazans or Palestinians who support them. You have to kill every last one of them.
"Be nice to them?" It's quite certain that Israel (and the US) have not been nice to them and it was long overdue.
what to do:
- Bomb the living daylights out of them by arming the Israelis,
- Leave the place severely compromised,
- Use USAID to buy post-destruction goodwill, and
- Use as much economic pressure as humanly possible to get Egypt and Jordan to (finally) open their borders with Gaza.
I'm all for your suggestion 1)
For number 2, I'd replace "severely compromised" with "completely destroyed and uninhabitable"
For 3) That's a hard "Hell No!"; what you're suggesting is you use our tax dollars to destroy our enemy, then you use our tax dollars again to rebuild what you just destroyed? Nope. Goodwill only lasts so long with these people.
4). I agree: get some of these surrounding muslim countries to take in their muslim brothers. But them not wanting to do so should tell you something.
Imagine if you will in the 21st century negotiating with those living in 600 AD and thinking this time, peace will actually be in place for any duration. The spread of Islam by the sword has went on for almost two thousand years. Not saying we shouldn't try, but long term success without the upper hand probably won't happen. It isn't too different than teaching some algebra to one with a cognitive index of 60 where he or she is angered that this time X was 6 and the last time it was 4, unable to grasp the concept of a variable in play...
That's xenophobic tunnel-vision. For instance:
Dubai is a Muslim country.
Kuwait is a Muslim country.
Qatar is a Muslim country.
Indonesia is a Muslim country.
Turkey is a Muslim country.
Malaysia is a Muslim country.
Egypt is a Muslim country. Used to be a sponsor of terrorism; now is an ally.
Yes - Gaza is a terrorism-sponsored shitshow, but predominantly Muslim doesn't necessarily equate to shitshow or sponsor of terrorism.
Wasn't the topic about Gaza...and even some of the other countries that appear to be advanced still hold some 600 AD thought.
No, we only agreed that you forgot a war in 55,000 and 800,000+ SE Asians died.
"That's a hard "Hell No!"; what you're suggesting is you use our tax dollars to destroy our enemy, then you use our tax dollars again to rebuild what you just destroyed? Nope. Goodwill only lasts so long with these people."
Your precious tax dollars lol.
We did this after WW2 and it turned out pretty good. Granted Nazis and Kamikazes aren't Muslims. I guess your genocide plan is cheaper and easier.
Hallelujah! Trump and Israel give the Hamas greaseballs a deadline of Saturday to release hostages. If they don't, the genocide is on the Gazans, not Israel.
www.foxnews.com
Israeli cabinet backs Trump’s demand for Hamas to release all hostages by Saturday deadline
Israel’s security cabinet supports President Trump’s demand that Hamas release all of its hostages by noon on Saturday, an Israeli official told Fox News.
They've already been bombing the shit out of them for a year, which Hamas richly deserved. Then there was a cease fire and hostages were being returned; slowly. Hamas is a terrorist org and would never be acceptable, but there was a cease fire and hostages were trickling back.Hallelujah! Trump and Israel give the Hamas greaseballs a deadline of Saturday to release hostages. If they don't, the genocide is on the Gazans, not Israel.
Israeli cabinet backs Trump’s demand for Hamas to release all hostages by Saturday deadline
Israel’s security cabinet supports President Trump’s demand that Hamas release all of its hostages by noon on Saturday, an Israeli official told Fox News.
This just means that Trump and Netanyahu decided to threaten to displace 2,000,000 people and decided to end the cease fire.
You don't know what happened. Both sides have accused the other of violating the cease fire and from the news videos we know that Hamas' hostages look half-starved and are humiliated, jeered and ridiculed in public before being released.
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