That commie network Fox News must be destroyed. Can’t believe Twitter even allows the edited clips that we see to be distributed on their platform.
Trump being tough on Putin
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It shows that people in your party, like Tucker, are at gathering in Florida calling for applause for Russia and getting it, that's what it shows. Isn't that what we're talking about?
You don't know who MTG is? Seriously? She's one of "the squad" on your team.
So you stay up to date on the crazies and their agenda on the left........but don't have a clue about the ones on your side? Makes sense.
It always comes back to Tucker as it should, even on Saturday night. Fox News should be destroyed.
Wait, now you're saying Tucker was there applauding for Russia? WTF?
I don't keep up with anyone. Not sure where you think I do.
No, Poorly worded on my part, but you know that.
Here's one for you.
"These are fair questions"
He not so cleverly is driving his audience toward Putin with his ridiculous questions about domestic issues and how Putin had nothing to do with them. Duh. He lies about Ukraine because, while they are not perfect and are fighting corruption and other problems, their president was in fact elected. He tries to imply Ukraine is bad because......Hunter.........makes a BS comparison of borders........and even drags Harris into the conversation to enrage his "conservative" viewers, just for good measure. He associates all the problems we have here with Ukraine and Russia.......and EVERY SINGLE TIME it results in Ukraine looking bad and Russia not so bad. He never ONCE talks about Russia being socialist or authoritarian or Putin taking out his enemies or state media or the sovereignty of Ukraine. He frames every argument in terms the hayseeds can understand and get pissed off about.....and it all is in deference to Putin.
He doesn't give a damn about a socialist country invading a democratic one. He is just using it to slam his domestic enemies.
This is deescalation. The progs are screaming for war with Russia. They are blood thirsty lunatics.
We need to deescalate tensions and not make Putin feel like we are trying to destroy them.
That's the way I saw it. Not that Tucker was trying to be rah rah about Putin. Just that we don't need to be pushing for conflict.
Do you even watch the news, any news, you lyin' idiot?
Quote me the "prog"(s) screaming for war.
Well, I just gave you an anyone...........an example of what the extremist side of your party is saying........... at a AFPAC conference which is operated by founder Nick Fuentes.........a white nationalist, misogynistic, anti Semitic, holocaust denier........who is apparently now a cheerleader for Russia. So you might want to keep up with some of the crazies in your own party.......including Gosar and MTG who chose to appear.
Well that's certainly pushing the conversation further. So no denials, just whataboutism? And it's not my party.
For it not being your party, you most certainly defend Democrats within the party.
You should pay more attention. I go after Trump and his team of enablers and those who have ascribed to his view of the republican party. I've defended Biden before......but feel free to point out all the other dems I've stood up for.
You go after Trump because of TDS and also because you are a clueless ***hole
“It shows that people in your party, like Tucker, are at gathering in Florida calling for applause for Russia and getting it, that's what it shows. Isn't that what we're talking about”
Here is your quote in this thread. It doesn’t state our party which would include you. I don’t see you critical of the left media or Democrats just the other side always. If this isn’t true, you sure do a great job disguising your support.
I'll make the same bet with you Bob, that I make with PurdueFan1 last fall.
I bet PF1 that he couldn't go 3 posts without calling someone a "RACIST!" (and guess, what? I won).
I'll bet you can't go 3 posts without mentioning one of the two "Ts" (Trump or Tucker). Do you accept this challenge?
Shouldn't the focus be on whether Bob said about Trump/Tucker is true, rather than whether he is talking about them?
If what he says is wrong, then point out where he is wrong. But if what he says is right and he is dunking on them, then what's wrong with that?
Imagine if a defender, upon seeing how MJ dunking on others, acts like a smarty pant and says, "I'll make this bet. Within his next 3 shots, MJ is gonna dunk on someone. Do you accept this bet?" He thought doing so will deter MJ from dunking, because if MJ did, he'd be like, "Ha ha, he is so easy to predict. I know exactly what he'll be doing."
You are so full of bovine defecation. FULL OF IT.
He's sending a text to Pelosi to see if she'll allow him to do that
Sigh, just whataboutism and personal attack without any meaningful content.
Look, we are on the topic of Putin and Russia, so if you think some Dems have said something crazy extremist B.S., then point that out to Bob and see if he agrees with those views.
Bob lists a bunch of folks on the right, from Nick Fuentes to Gosar to MTG apparently cheering for Russia. If you agree with Bob, then you should be condemning those people. If you don't agree with Bob, then you should explain why you support those people cheering for Putin.
Then we can have a meaningful conversation and that we can understand where you are coming from. Otherwise, the way you are doing just degenerates a conversation into meaningless personal attacks like kids.
"Hey, these are the things you get wrong in your homework!"
"No, you are stupid, and everything you said is wrong!"
Bob just regurgitates what he hears on CNN and MSNBC. He has no original thoughts on any of these situations.
See Cpig's post above.
Your original thought is to say everybody that disagrees with trump can't think for themselves and parrots the liberal media.
Well, not really an original thought.
Why would I give a damn?
Something of substance for you. Try it sometime.
"I hope everyone is able to remember that it was me, as President of the United States, that got delinquent NATO members to start paying their dues, which amounted to hundreds of billions of dollars. There would be no NATO if I didn’t act strongly and swiftly. Also, it was me that got Ukraine the very effective antitank busters (Javelins) when the previous Administration was sending blankets."
Mememe.
I saved NATO .......except the part when I questioned the need for NATO and openly discussed pulling out.
Trump talking about himself? Shocker.....
Who gives $hit other than snowflake libs who didn't like him because he mean tweeted. The guy was arguably the best President....ever!
He put America first (sure, he was self-congratulatory, but again, that doesn't matter), he kept the international bullies inline, he helped manage a roaring economy and job market.
Your hero Biden, has literaly messed up everything he's touched.
But Bob, it’s just easier to say you have TDS vs a discussion because it requires zero thinking.
Maybe folks will stop talking about Trump when Trump is no longer a factor of any kind. When he’s not the featured speaker at CPAC and wins the straw poll to be the party nominee. Or when other elected Republicans don’t appear at the same event with him. Or when elected Republican officials stop claiming Trump won the election. Or when Republicans running for office don’t use Trump as part of their campaign strategy.
Maybe Tucker will disappear when he stops going on his show every night and siding with Putin. Or stops going on and spreading blatant lies about a global pandemic and vaccines.
Saying someone has TDS or tries to chastise others about talking about Tucker etc is so lazy. It’s also projection of the highest order. Don’t talk about Tucker although I’ll talk about Maddow until I wear the M out on my keyboard.
The righties on here get so twisted about Biden but fail to realize they’re the reason he’s president. They’re the folks who voted for Trump and Trump is why we have Biden. The thing is, Hillary was right about so many things. Yet she wasn’t elected because she wasn’t likable. I get that, as shortsighted as that is, especially looking back. But the folks who hated Hillary now don’t understand Trump was viewed the exact same way this past election and was a main reason he lost. Some amazingly lazy mental gymnastics by these folks.
Let's say Bob indeed only regurgitates what he hears on CNN and MSNBC. Why does it matter? If what he regurgitates is factually inaccurate or logically inconsistent, then point it out and he'll STFU.
If what he regurgitates is correct, then why does it matter whether it is an original thought or not?
If Trump said we should "Make America Great Again," and you think that's correct, you regurgitate it here with facts and evidences that you hear from FOX that support the argument. Then if Bob says, "Well, you are just regurgitating and not an original thought," what would you think of him? You'd probably think of him as a coward who is just sidetracking because he has no better counterpoints to refute you, and I'd agree!
I think there's something interesting that you touch upon here. Yeah, the hatred towards Hillary is in a way, the mirror image towards the hatred towards Trump. We can argue about who is hated more and who is more deserving, but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, if you ABSOLUTELY HATE Hillary, then you should understand how other might be feeling about Trump, whether you disagree with that or not. It's like if you are rooting for the Lakers and hate the Celtics, you should understand how someone rooting for the Celtics might feel about your Lakers.
To really fix this, I like the proposal of "One *CANDIDATE*, One vote" system, as opposed to the "One *VOTER*, One vote" system that we have.
Right now, each voter has one vote. So if you vote for Biden (or Hillary, doesn't matter), you can't vote for Trump. And you only have two choices, because even if Bernie or Ted Cruz are your preferred candidate, they can't run because only each party will only have one candidate.
What if instead, each voter gets to give a pass / no pass to EACH CANDIDATE? Then the Dems don't have to decide between Bernie or Biden or Hillary, and the Republicans don't have to choose between Trump or another (say Ted Cruz). So if you are a Republican, then you can give a pass vote to both Trump and Cruz. If you hate Hillary and Trump, but OK with either Biden or Cruz, then you just give the vote to Biden and Cruz. The way this works is that it tends to eliminate the extremists, and now candidates cannot just work to please its extremist base, but to actually try to hear what the people in the middle want.
I hope we can all agree that the country is tear apart enough that we don't want the extremists, whether you want to call them the "radical left" or "white supremacists on the right". Just find a guy in the middle where he is serving the bulk of the Americans who are in the middle, shall we?
Your premise is definitely interesting and at first glance, it makes sense and seems like something I could get on board with. The shorter version is that the current method of picking candidates needs to be set on fire and pushed out to sea to burn and sink to the ocean depths.
Thanks for summarizing pig's characteristic bloviation, but what would you replace the current method with, puf? Or does you grand thinking stop with burning it down ?
The "mean tweets" thing is getting old. I know that boils it down one talking point you can remember easily..........but they are just visible evidence of the horrible person he is and president he was.
It's amazing that people.....even those like you who approve of him, can look at what he says and who he is.......and think that this insecure narcissist who is completely self adsorbed can somehow be a different person when it comes to making decisions about what is best for this country........and not allow his massive deficiencies affect those decisions.
Does he have a switch he just turns on and off?
Why? They have no voice in my party. Hell I'm not even Republican. I've said that before. Crazies are on both sides. The difference is that the crazies on the left actually have some pull. The right crazies don't.
From the little I've looked up on the issue, there is no place where MTG was cheering for Russia. Only the weirdos on the far far right.
Yes, we get it, he talks about himself a lot. But where is any of that incorrect?
We've done that, but he refuses to believe that what he's regurgitating is factually inaccurate BECAUSE he saw it on the MSM. That's the problem...
I think it's amazing that people can look at who Trump was as a person and cannot in any way separate and recognize how good he was as a president. Yes he's an ass/dick, whatever you want to call him. But the country was humming under Trump. He did so many good things and the fact that you don't recognize that is perfect proof of TDS.
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