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The great Unifier

I don't care what anyone says on the Left. There is a large number of people that will never believe Biden won fairly until a full audit is done. I said this back during the election. I don't understand why anyone on the left would be against that. If Biden won fairly, then the audit would have shown that. Argument over. Instead, all we got was fake audits and hand recounts labelled audits. Hence, a large number of people that believe the election was stolen. Period. You want to unify the country, give us a full audit.
😂😂somebody get this guy his binky😂😂
 
When did we ever do a full audit? That is just your Trump talking points that you are mouthing. BTW when is the Cyber Ninja guy going to get done with the Arizona audit so he can then tell us how many bamboo ballots he had to reject because they came from China? We never would have a new president at the rate of speed he is proceeding and that is just one county he and his troops have been recounting-at least supposedly.
A full audit has been done in specific states in the past. Cyber Ninja? I don't know anything about that. Audits aren't about putting in a new president, it's about finding fraud (or proving it wasn't there) and preventing it from happening in the future.

If Biden has nothing to fear, why is he still fighting the audits that are being attempted?
 
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A full audit has been done in specific states in the past. Cyber Ninja? I don't know anything about that. Audits aren't about putting in a new president, it's about finding fraud (or proving it wasn't there) and preventing it from happening in the future.

If Biden has nothing to fear, why is he still fighting the audits that are being attempted?
It will be 2036 and you’ll still be yammering on about a goddamned audit. Put up or shut up (or I guess wait until the middle of next month when the MyPillow idiot presents all of his “evidence”) lmao.
 
You mean not recognizing that he lost the election would be a good place to start, trying to start an insurrection, colluding with Russia, trying to restrict voting rights, which of course you refuse to see.
Wow, just wow. Still trying to push the Russia shit? You realize how ridiculous that looks? And how did he try to restrict voting rights?
Really bad take, even for a lib
 
A full audit has been done in specific states in the past. Cyber Ninja? I don't know anything about that. Audits aren't about putting in a new president, it's about finding fraud (or proving it wasn't there) and preventing it from happening in the future.

If Biden has nothing to fear, why is he still fighting the audits that are being attempted?
If you're not stealing money from your employer, I'm sure you wouldn't mind being publicly accused of it and called before the president or a board of inquiry to prove you aren't doing it. You have nothing to fear, you're innocent.

Lamest argument ever.
 
This is what the results should have been in my opinion, but I was wrong. However, I’m known as an omniscient vote predictor, so all the votes must be recounted 😂
 
Dude, it's over 4 years later and Hillary still tells audiences that the election was stolen from her. She also went to court over the election. Yes, she did just as much as Trump did. You don't hear how much she really did because the MSM chooses not to cover it.
I interact with trumpers everyday, mostly working class guys. I've heard some crazy shit, conspiracies, lies, all sorts of justifications for their positions. But they aren't educated, they watch FOX and believe it, and take zero time to look for the truth. You don't have those excuses and yet you still believe it all as long as trump says it........lol....
.and always manage to blame the msm. People like you are the biggest threat to this country. Not socialism or CRT or wokeness or BLM or cancel culture. No, people like you.

You rant about people believing what they're told by the msm but yet you say stuff like this. You're either lying because you just can't admit what you know to be true......or your mind has been consumed by trump. No other possibilities. Unbelievable man.
 
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I interact with trumpers everyday, mostly working class guys. I've heard some crazy shit, conspiracies, lies, all sorts of justifications for their positions. But they aren't educated, they watch FOX and believe it, and take zero time to look for the truth. You don't have those excuses and yet you still believe it all as long as trump says it........lol....
.and always manage to blame the msm. People like you are the biggest threat to this country. Not socialism or CRT or wokeness or BLM or cancel culture. No, people like you.

You rant about people believing what they're told by the msm but yet you say stuff like this. You're either lying because you just can't admit what you know to be true......or your mind has been consumed by trump. No other possibilities. Unbelievable man.
Pretty much none of this is true but thanks for the ROFL.
 
Everyone has the right to their own opinion until we no longer have a free country which is the direction Trump is trying to take us, as his sister said, "he has no principles".

OMG are you really this simple? Biden is a good man so I voted for him ? You must be one of the simpleist thinking people to ever post on here . I actually have sympathy for you to be honest . You try but wow just wow
 
OMG are you really this simple? Biden is a good man so I voted for him ? You must be one of the simpleist thinking people to ever post on here . I actually have sympathy for you to be honest . You try but wow just wow
Yes it’s hard to believe people take this view. Not sure Biden is a good man when you peel back and look at his personal business dealings over the years. Ethically I would highly doubt it. Just able to get away with it because of the political party he belongs to. He’s done next to nothing since becoming president that most anyone agrees with, but you get he is a good man when talking to people. The media has done a great job with brainwashing a mass of the public.
 
It will be 2036 and you’ll still be yammering on about a goddamned audit. Put up or shut up (or I guess wait until the middle of next month when the MyPillow idiot presents all of his “evidence”) lmao.
And in 2036, lefties, libs and dems will still be talking about Jan 6
 
Yes it’s hard to believe people take this view. Not sure Biden is a good man when you peel back and look at his personal business dealings over the years. Ethically I would highly doubt it. Just able to get away with it because of the political party he belongs to. He’s done next to nothing since becoming president that most anyone agrees with, but you get he is a good man when talking to people. The media has done a great job with brainwashing a mass of the public.

Well, his son is a full blown drug addict, stripper banging racist....so the apple probably doesn't fall too far from the tree.
 
Yes it’s hard to believe people take this view. Not sure Biden is a good man when you peel back and look at his personal business dealings over the years. Ethically I would highly doubt it. Just able to get away with it because of the political party he belongs to. He’s done next to nothing since becoming president that most anyone agrees with, but you get he is a good man when talking to people. The media has done a great job with brainwashing a mass of the public.
He sells being a good guy well. And is in sharp contrast to Trump, that sold being an a-hole well. Biden effectively uses his family tragedies for political benefit.

Agree if you peel back the onion, he is just another corrupt politician. The MSM will never tell that part of the story now. Early on in democrat party primary, several MSM outlets tried their best to take Biden out......as they wanted a farther left candidate. When Biden won the primary those same media outlets immediately flipped and started treating him like a rock star.
 
Early on in democrat party primary, several MSM outlets tried their best to take Biden out......as they wanted a farther left candidate. When Biden won the primary those same media outlets immediately flipped and started treating him like a rock star.
a similar reversal the conservative msm made once trump became the R candidate
 
a similar reversal the conservative msm made once trump became the R candidate
If you are talking about a couple opinion show hosts that is very possible. Certainly Hannity and Ingram were Trump cheerleaders as opinion talk show hosts.

Certainly Chris Wallace didn't treat Trump like a rock star. And either did a significant portion of the conservative media. He was a very controversial figure even within conservative media.

There is nearly unanimous propping up of Biden by MSM. Quite different than Trump
 
Sure. I used to be a Republican until Trump. The party has radically changed so I did too. I can't believe people can't see how Trump is destroying our great country's democracy and once it happens there is no getting it back. It will just be one tin-pot dictator after another.
WTF. Is “destroying”? Newsflash. He’s not the President. The idiotic, senile, dottering, lying, corrupt Joe Biden is. At least you admit Biden is a tin-pot dictator.
 
So it follows that you are against the current infrastructure bill.......because trump is opposed to it. Seems like he's putting himself before Americans in this case.
We need a $3.5T liberal power grab? The one that really has nothing to do with infrastructure. That infrastructure bill that the Ds (you know, the party you now support because of your incessant, insane hatred of The Orange Man) says is inextricably linked to the $0.9T -$1.2T one the Rs want. GTFOH.
 
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And in 2036, lefties, libs and dems will still be talking about Jan 6
The Venn diagram between something that happened vs something that is a made up pile of bullshit are two wholly unrelated circles.

Just stick to your racism since that’s your specialty.
 
We need a $3.5T liberal power grab? The one that really has nothing to do with infrastructure. That infrastructure bill that the Ds (you know, the party you now support because of your incessant, insane hatred of The Orange Man) says is inextricably linked to the $0.9T -$1.2T one the Rs want. GTFOH.
There are two infrastructure proposals. The first one is for traditional infrastructure with some exceptions. The second one is the one we don't need and can't afford.

Btw, progressives in the house are not happy that the two are not together and are threatening to vote no on the first without guarantees on the second. They also aren't happy with the immigration plan. So much for Joe following the progressive line.

Were you against an infrastructure bill when trump was......sort of......going to do one?
 
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There are two infrastructure proposals. The first one is for traditional infrastructure with some exceptions. The second one is the one we don't need and can't afford.

Btw, progressives in the house are not happy that the two are not together and are threatening to vote no on the first without guarantees on the second. They also aren't happy with the immigration plan. So much for Joe following the progressive line.

Were you against an infrastructure bill when trump was......sort of......going to do one?
Why didn’t Trump get an infrastructure bill to sign? Ahhh the Democrats obstructed it for the betterment of our country. Just can’t at all costs allow anything good to happen under Trump.
 
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There are two infrastructure proposals. The first one is for traditional infrastructure with some exceptions. The second one is the one we don't need and can't afford.

Btw, progressives in the house are not happy that the two are not together and are threatening to vote no on the first without guarantees on the second. They also aren't happy with the immigration plan. So much for Joe following the progressive line.

Were you against an infrastructure bill when trump was......sort of......going to do one?
I was for infrastructure both then and now. But it's silly political theater on both sides the way it is being done now.

Biden spends all this time negotiating with moderate dems and Republicans. Both sides compromise and come to an agreement. But dems are just going to throw everything Republicans negotiated out of package #1 into package #2. They have every right to do that....elections have consequences. But might as well just let the democrats pass one package by themselves from the start. The moderate Republicans were all proud they kept tax increases out of package #1. It's coming in package #2, so the Republicans just got played. Either way they were going to lose, but perhaps public reaction would've been more negative against one ginormous bill. From strictly politics pov, Biden won this round over Republicans.
 
WTF. Is “destroying”? Newsflash. He’s not the President. The idiotic, senile, dottering, lying, corrupt Joe Biden is. At least you admit Biden is a tin-pot dictator.
I said Biden is a tin-pot dictator? I’ll retract it if I did. Joe is what Joe is a compromise candidate by the party in order to beat Trump. He is now having trouble with the left side of the equation that helped elect him. Joe can’t win and he also has his idiot son, Hunter to deal with. Trump is who I would say falls into my tin-pot definition. He behaves like a guy who is used to giving orders without the need to compromise. Trump was a rich kid running a family business whose word was law.

Trump’s claim of having been cheated out of the presidency is complete bullshit. The damage that is going to cause will probably linger long after Trump and our deaths. You have to believe in the integrity of the election or democracy and our system of government will not survive. Trump needs to put our countries needs in front of his but he seems incapable of doing it.
 
There are two infrastructure proposals. The first one is for traditional infrastructure with some exceptions. The second one is the one we don't need and can't afford.

Btw, progressives in the house are not happy that the two are not together and are threatening to vote no on the first without guarantees on the second. They also aren't happy with the immigration plan. So much for Joe following the progressive line.

Were you against an infrastructure bill when trump was......sort of......going to do one?
BS Pelosi and Schumer have both said that the two bills are tied together. So did Biden. Most Ds will not do the real infrastructure deal (the smaller one) without the monstrosity ($3.5T+ or up to $6T if the hardcore Progressives get their way).

I would have been fine with the small one (the real infrastructure package) if Trump was for it or not.
 
They both make a lot of mistakes but at least Joe seems like a decent human being.
Joe seems like a likeable guy, but he's a chronic liar, got caught cheating in college, has been caught plagiarizing speeches multiple times and has made comments that would have had him run out of DC as a racist, if he had an "R" after his name.

He has a Walter Mitty persona, where he makes up stories about going to jail in S, Africa, driving an 18 wheeler, graduating at the top of his Law school class (he was actually at/near the bottom), having 3 Degrees and on and on.

Obama's SecDef Robert Gates once said that Joe was on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision over the last 40 years. Great at analyzing situations and making good decisions - NOT.

He's crooked as a dogs hind leg and has used his political positions to set up his brothers Frank & James and son, Hunter to get rich. If what Hunter wrote in his laptop is true, the Big Guy got 10% on all the deals he set up. Now Hunter is going to be selling refrigerator worthy Art for up to half a million dollars a copy. I can only wonder what the Big Guy's cut will be and what will be bought, besides the Art?

Here's an article that gives some details of the family business:
 
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It's bizarre hearing those who have zero interest in bipartisanship........or agreeing with dems on anything.............. complain about Joe being unable to unify the country. Completely illogical.

Dear Joe. Make me like you........even though I hate you..........and if you cant it's your fault.
Dear Joe, please be honest and competent, even though you've never shown either ability in your life, and I'll like you.
 
It's bizarre hearing those who have zero interest in bipartisanship........or agreeing with dems on anything.............. complain about Joe being unable to unify the country. Completely illogical.

Dear Joe. Make me like you........even though I hate you..........and if you cant it's your fault.
Name one thing that Biden has done to unify the country?
Show me any time that Biden, Pelosi or Schumer were bipartisan, since the election. I don't mean just saying the words, I mean doing the deeds.

Your last sentence is amusing for the poster boy for TDS. For 4 yrs you were saying:

Dear Donald. Make me like you........even though I hate you..........and if you cant it's your fault.

Although you never ever wanted to like him, EVER. But you're open minded and you think we're not...LOL
 
A full audit has been done in specific states in the past. Cyber Ninja? I don't know anything about that. Audits aren't about putting in a new president, it's about finding fraud (or proving it wasn't there) and preventing it from happening in the future.

If Biden has nothing to fear, why is he still fighting the audits that are being attempted?
Cyber Nija is a QAnon conspiracists who has never done and audit or participated in one and yet the Republican Party gave him all the ballots to review-that was in January and he still hasn’t released any results. He isn’t trained to do all the voting machines now will have to be replaced. I forgot how many millions that will cost and still no result. Can you not see a problem with your audit position since the President are needs to be in office by January 21st? Trump is turning us into Hungary.
 
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Everyone has the right to their own opinion until we no longer have a free country which is the direction Trump is trying to take us, as his sister said, "he has no principles".
I have the same right then too? If that is your only argument it doesn't say much...............The best you can do to endorse Biden is he seems like a decent human being? Good lord
 
Joe seems like a likeable guy, but he's a chronic liar, got caught cheating in college, has been caught plagiarizing speeches multiple times and has made comments that would have had him run out of DC as a racist, if he had an "R" after his name.

He has a Walter Mitty persona, where he makes up stories about going to jail in S, Africa, driving an 18 wheeler, graduating at the top of his Law school class (he was actually at/near the bottom), having 3 Degrees and on and on.

Obama's SecDef Robert Gates once said that Joe was on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision over the last 40 years. Great at analyzing situations and making good decisions - NOT.

He's crooked as a dogs hind leg and has used his political positions to set up his brothers Frank & James and son, Hunter to get rich. If what Hunter wrote in his laptop is true, the Big Guy got 10% on all the deals he set up. Now Hunter is going to be selling refrigerator worthy Art for up to half a million dollars a copy. I can only wonder what the Big Guy's cut will be and what will be bought, besides the Art?

Here's an article that gives some details of the family business:
Well if Joe is the liar you claim he is still a mere novice to Trump. Trump lies and blows about almost anything. He has a deep seated inferiority complex IMO. He is so insecure and needs continual reinforcement confirming he is somehow superior to everyone else. Gag me with a spoon whenever Trump starts talking about his superior intellect and his fabulous sexual ability. The last leader that was this vain was Mussolini and he ended up getting strung up along with his mistress by his own countrymen, upside down no less.
 
I have the same right then too? If that is your only argument it doesn't say much...............The best you can do to endorse Biden is he seems like a decent human being? Good lord
Hi Crayfish. Good to see you’re back from the Indiana forums after carrying on the good fight for Trump over there.
 
Wow, just wow. Still trying to push the Russia shit? You realize how ridiculous that looks? And how did he try to restrict voting rights?
Really bad take, even for a lib
Wow, just wow. Still trying to push the Russia shit? You realize how ridiculous that looks? And how did he try to restrict voting rights?
Really bad take, even for a lib
Well it didn’t get proven to the extent that they could get enough Republicans to proceed with a full investigation of Trump. Today is a different group of congressmen and Trump no longer has his thumbs on the DOJ.
 
Name one thing that Biden has done to unify the country?
Show me any time that Biden, Pelosi or Schumer were bipartisan, since the election. I don't mean just saying the words, I mean doing the deeds.

Your last sentence is amusing for the poster boy for TDS. For 4 yrs you were saying:

Dear Donald. Make me like you........even though I hate you..........and if you cant it's your fault.

Although you never ever wanted to like him, EVER. But you're open minded and you think we're not...LOL
How about this? Just today. Not bipartisan?

More to come.

 
Hi Crayfish. Good to see you’re back from the Indiana forums after carrying on the good fight for Trump over there.
Good to see you are still an idiot.......hmmm, so if you saw I posted over there where were you? Oh posting there too about politics.
 
Definition of a democracy: "a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system."

Definition of a republic: "a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them."

I think you'll find both of those describe the basis for our system of government and that they are, essentially, the same thing.

When people refer to America as a "democracy," this is what they mean. They're not talking about direct democracy, which appears to be the only thing you'll count as a democracy. The electoral college, while idiotic, does not disqualify us from being a democracy. They would be the "elected agents" who are entrusted with the "supreme power" to chose our president. This is just like how we elect representatives and senators to act as "elected agents" for the purposes of creating laws. Hence, the "indirect" part of the definition. Separation of powers does not disqualify us from being a democracy, either, because what makes a government democratic is that the people have the power to choose. Separation of powers is irrelevant. If people get to vote on stuff, and those votes actually matter (unlike, say, North Korea) it's some form of a democracy.

Make your Trump argument all you want, I don't care about that. But get out of here with this ridiculous we're not a democracy stuff, because it's just asinine. It wasn't my intention to actually get into an argument about this, so I won't post about it anymore, but I've just seen so many people use this "republic not a democracy" argument as if it actually refutes the other person's position because they used the word "democracy." It's a perfectly acceptable way to refer to our government, given the definition.
We aren’t a democracy. We are an oligarchy.. or did you not hear about the Princeton study
 
Sure. I used to be a Republican until Trump. The party has radically changed so I did too. I can't believe people can't see how Trump is destroying our great country's democracy and once it happens there is no getting it back. It will just be one tin-pot dictator after another.
C'mon Bill, how did he destroy our Democracy? You must be mainlining CNN to be that deluded.

Do you think a Democrat party & their Marketing Dept., the MSM, who were in full attack mode, when Trump first got the nomination were helping Democracy? They attacked his personnel, made up lie after lie, which the MSM spread as truth. For almost 4 years we were inundated with constant stories about Trump colluding with Russia (proven to be a LIE). Pelosi launched countless frivolous investigations and two Impeachments based on LIES, which the MSM trumpeted all day, every day.
You made the mistake of believing the MSM, who will never say a good word about any Republican and they hated Trump, because he had the audacity to fight back.
 
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So you think Biden won the election? Your response seems to indicate it. Congratulations for having your eyes partially open.
Actually, that can't be derived by his statements. If Biden got 15% less votes than Trump, he could still hold his opinion on "Too many idiots and ill informed voted for Biden because he seemed like a nice guy".
 
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C'mon Bill, how did he destroy our Democracy? You must be mainlining CNN to be that deluded.

Do you think a Democrat party & their Marketing Dept., the MSM, who were in full attack mode, when Trump first got the nomination were helping Democracy? They attacked his personnel, made up lie after lie, which the MSM spread as truth. For almost 4 years we were inundated with constant stories about Trump colluding with Russia (proven to be a LIE). Pelosi launched countless frivolous investigations and two Impeachments based on LIES, which the MSM trumpeted all day, every day.
You made the mistake of believing the MSM, who will never say a good word about any Republican and they hated Trump, because he had the audacity to fight back.
"Proven to be a lie"-no it wasn't it just could not be verified with enough proof under the restrictions imposed on the Mueller team. Do you think it's healthy for our government to have people challenging the results of the election like Trump? Yea I know Hillary thought there was Russian influence that swung the election in Trump's favor but that's not the same thing as claiming the vote was corrupt and can't be trusted. Gore challenged the vote in one specific state, Florida where Bush's brother was the governor but dropped it once it became clear it was no going to verifiable. Only Donnie would claim he won the election when he received less than 7 million votes than Biden. Nixon had a good argument that he was cheated out of a victory in 1960 but dropped it for the good of the country. Trump is incapable of putting the country first; it's all about him.
 
"Proven to be a lie"-no it wasn't it just could not be verified with enough proof under the restrictions imposed on the Mueller team. Do you think it's healthy for our government to have people challenging the results of the election like Trump? Yea I know Hillary thought there was Russian influence that swung the election in Trump's favor but that's not the same thing as claiming the vote was corrupt and can't be trusted. Gore challenged the vote in one specific state, Florida where Bush's brother was the governor but dropped it once it became clear it was no going to verifiable. Only Donnie would claim he won the election when he received less than 7 million votes than Biden. Nixon had a good argument that he was cheated out of a victory in 1960 but dropped it for the good of the country. Trump is incapable of putting the country first; it's all about him.
Trump should have conceded after the USSC refused his case that some of the a State election laws were changed unconstitutionally.
The USCC was put in a tough situation. The obviously didn’t want to change the election outcome.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the USSC if HR-1 passes the HOR and Senate.
 
Trump should have conceded after the USSC refused his case that some of the a State election laws were changed unconstitutionally.
The USCC was put in a tough situation. The obviously didn’t want to change the election outcome.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the USSC if HR-1 passes the HOR and Senate.
HR-1 doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting through the Senate. Literally none. I’d be surprised if the House got it through to be honest.
 
The Venn diagram between something that happened vs something that is a made up pile of bullshit are two wholly unrelated circles.

Just stick to your racism since that’s your specialty.

There it is!!! PurdueFan1's go to "YOU'RE A RACIST"!!
 
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