That was a nice diversion

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Was really nice to see the new guys start positive. Couldn't ask for a better couple of first baskets than Trey in the lane, Myles for a lob dunk and Cam for a 3. it was exciting to see the lineup we always figured was the most talented on the floor together starting for the first time. Hopefully was the early branding of a new memorable team in in the post-Zach era. Nice win, everyone gets minutes, good stuff. Trey is looking like the guy Matt talked about now. Playing bigger too. I still like he and Furst together. Furst plays good D and has been our best "man" rebounder aside from Trey. Thought Big Red looked pretty good and looked more relaxed. Quicker too, as he will as he gets more real game experience. Hands were pretty quick grabbing that loose ball the one time.

 

[Boilerfla]

5 guys who can score! tough for teams to defend

Furst can be solid when bigger needed

Cox, Harris, Big Red, and Jacobsen coming along

Like that fun five!

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I think that Colvin and Heide’s athleticism is needed to compliment the other three who are collectively much higher in skill than in pure athleticism. The “Big 3” are probably more athletic than they get credit for and are all great basketball players, but throw a player like Berg in the mix and I feel like it is going to be tough for this group to reach it’s potential. I like Furst as the first sub with the three freshmen in the mix.

This is also possibly the best 3 point shooting lineup in the country. Thus far in the first 6 games combined, these 5 starters are combining for 48% from 3. I know that’s not sustainable, but I can see them matching the Dakota/Vince/PJ group to lead the nation in this category.

 

[Roeder]

Agreed.

Get the best 5 on the floor and let them get used to playing with one another. It will be fun to see Colvin and Heide grow this year.

Rebounding and rim protection will be struggle, but it was with the big lineup too. Might as well maximize the offensive and maybe change philosophy on D a bit and see if they can improve.

Harris and Berg looked more comfortable coming off the bench.

I like Furst getting more minutes too. He literally took 1.5 years off playing behind Edey. He is talented and once he knocks some rust off he will be a nice plus off the bench in B1G play. He's already getting better and love how he is getting to line and hitting FTs. He can high hedge on pick and roll on D too which will help offset not having rim protection with more pressure.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I still like he and Furst together. Furst plays good D and has been our best "man" rebounder aside from Trey.

Although Furst has shown the be a good rebounder in the past....but this year he is averaging less than 2R per game and most of our roster is averaging more R/game than he currently is.

 

[Roeder]

Although Furst has shown rebounding in the past he is averaging less than 2R per game and most of our roster is averaging more R/game than he currently is.

It is puzzling as he was a good rebounder in the past. Maybe others focusing on Edey/Trevion when he ws younger helped him out there to clean things up. Against Alabama he looked comfortable at walling off Cliff, so hopefully the production comes soon.

 

[boilernuke]

I hate to oversimplify, but if this Purdue team can manage to keep turnovers low and not get outrebounded, they can really win any game. Offense should really be able to score to keep the Boilers in any game regardless how the defense is performing. I feel that defense will continue to get better with this coaching staff and with the learning curve of the newer players.

 

[Roeder]

I hate to oversimplify, but if this Purdue team can manage to keep turnovers low and not get outrebounded, they can really win any game. Offense should really be able to score to keep the Boilers in any game regardless how the defense is performing. I feel that defense will continue to get better with this coaching staff and with the learning curve of the newer players.

Exactly. Low turnovers is the important more attainable one. Keeping the rebounds within 5 and not getting hammered will keep them in most games.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Although Furst has shown the be a good rebounder in the past....but this year he is averaging less than 2R per game and most of our roster is averaging more R/game than he currently is.

It's the contested rebounds that really count. Wait and see who plays when the going gets tough.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I hate to oversimplify, but if this Purdue team can manage to keep turnovers low and not get outrebounded, they can really win any game. Offense should really be able to score to keep the Boilers in any game regardless how the defense is performing. I feel that defense will continue to get better with this coaching staff and with the learning curve of the newer players.

Yep it’s what Paint stresses the most! What’s the stat he said…something like when Purdue has lower than 9 turnovers and the rebounding battle (I think he also said this), their record is something ridiculous like 100-3 (ok not exactly that but they have won a WHOLE lot and lost very few). I need to go find it and report back 😂

 

[BoilerMaker P]

It’s just as simple as play every game like the Alabama game. Lol.

I can see them in the film room and coaches saying “You see that? Do that.”

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

It’s just as simple as play every game like the Alabama game. Lol.

I can see them in the film room and coaches saying “You see that? Do that.”

Haha right? But I think we also are going to find out that Alabama doesn’t play defense and isn’t good prep for what’s about to come in the B1G (but nothing really is haha).

On the topic of Alabama…I may just…say this as an unpopular opinion….i don’t think they get out of the second weekend this year 😮

 

[tjreese]

Yep it’s what Paint stresses the most! What’s the stat he said…something like when Purdue has lower than 9 turnovers and the rebounding battle (I think he also said this), their record is something ridiculous like 100-3 (ok not exactly that but they have won a WHOLE lot and lost very few). I need to go find it and report back 😂

and vertical passes stolen typically are not as hurtful as horizontal passes stolen that go for uncontested shots many times. Both take away a potential offensive play.

 

[Bleedinggoldandblack]

I hate to oversimplify, but if this Purdue team can manage to keep turnovers low and not get outrebounded, they can really win any game. Offense should really be able to score to keep the Boilers in any game regardless how the defense is performing. I feel that defense will continue to get better with this coaching staff and with the learning curve of the newer players.

There in is the 'work needed', still need to pick up the pace against pressure, drive to the basket !, stop playing half court dribble and pass .

 

[Purdue79fan]

Don't understand not having a plan in place to attack pressure! Most younger people don't know that John Wooden's UCLA teams typically used a full court press from tip to buzzer regardless of personnel. His first NC was notable for all starters 6'5" or shorter and later used basically the same press with Alcindor and Walton. As such, his teams also ran a "Press Break Offense" with typically the 4 taking the ball out of bounds: 1, 2, & 5 running plays to get the ball near the opponents basket with the 3 trying to get open for a long pass. Wooden's teams liked to score .

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Don't understand not having a plan in place to attack pressure! Most younger people don't know that John Wooden's UCLA teams typically used a full court press from tip to buzzer regardless of personnel. His first NC was notable for all starters 6'5" or shorter and later used basically the same press with Alcindor and Walton. As such, his teams also ran a "Press Break Offense" with typically the 4 taking the ball out of bounds: 1, 2, & 5 running plays to get the ball near the opponents basket with the 3 trying to get open for a long pass. Wooden's teams liked to score .

I agree, I wish we’d attack the press more and not pull it back so much. Maybe that’ll change?

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I agree, I wish we’d attack the press more and not pull it back so much. Maybe that’ll change?

I think that the new starting lineup is well equipped to do so. I feel like it has the potential to take advantage of opportunities or pull it back and run its offense if nothing is there. I can see a lot of transition threes with this group in addition to being able to attack the rim.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I think that the new starting lineup is well equipped to do so. I feel like it has the potential to take advantage of opportunities or pull it back and run its offense if nothing is there. I can see a lot of transition threes with this group in addition to being able to attack the rim.

I hope. Smith tends to pull back and let us get set and then we run clock to get into our offense. We have the shooters and athletes to attack it, so why not do so? Not saying every time obviously, but take our chances.

Auburn is going to press the $^*% out of us and test us the WHOLE game. Our backcourt is going to have to be ready/grow up quick to handle that all game.

 

[tjreese]

I think that the new starting lineup is well equipped to do so. I feel like it has the potential to take advantage of opportunities or pull it back and run its offense if nothing is there. I can see a lot of transition threes with this group in addition to being able to attack the rim.

I believe that if it is a zone press with the intent to turn you over, Purdue will attack. If it is a zone press eating clock, I doubt Purdue is instructed to push it into a trap. If it a man full press, Purdue will be sped up if the other team has the 1,2&3 more athletic than Purdue. If they don't have sufficient players that can provide pressure in man, Purdue will just force (if needed) the opposition player weaker on D to end up defending the ball across half court. I think we will continue to see Braden push the ball and probe as you suggest as Purdue wants to put offensive pressure on the opposition and when not there as you say...then Trey is more of a focus.

I've known for a couple of years the pace would be quicker in life after Zach and I believe we will see that. All said there are many teams more athletic than Purdue and those teams may want to bring pressure. Matt picks skill first and foremost in the battle of athlete versus skill. Myles and Cam are athletic...Trey and Fletch are not. Braden is more athletic than some would believe, but that too is not his strength although he is more athletic than many his size. I'm not particularly worried about playing another Marquette team since Purdue is still getting new blood minutes and working out how this team plays, rotations and all the things we enjoy developing over the season. As horrible as Purdue played, they were still in it with 6 or so minutes to go on the visitor's court. Cam and Myles as well as the freshmen are limited in experience for their "new" or "expanded" roles.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I believe that if it is a zone press with the intent to turn you over, Purdue will attack. If it is a zone press eating clock, I doubt Purdue is instructed to push it into a trap. If it a man full press, Purdue will be sped up if the other team has the 1,2&3 more athletic than Purdue. If they don't have sufficient players that can provide pressure in man, Purdue will just force (if needed) the opposition player weaker on D to end up defending the ball across half court. I think we will continue to see Braden push the ball and probe as you suggest as Purdue wants to put offensive pressure on the opposition and when not there as you say...then Trey is more of a focus.

I've known for a couple of years the pace would be quicker in life after Zach and I believe we will see that. All said there are many teams more athletic than Purdue and those teams may want to bring pressure. Matt picks skill first and foremost in the battle of athlete versus skill. Myles and Cam are athletic...Trey and Fletch are not. Braden is more athletic than some would believe, but that too is not his strength although he is more athletic than many his size. I'm not particularly worried about playing another Marquette team since Purdue is still getting new blood minutes and working out how this team plays, rotations and all the things we enjoy developing over the season. As horrible as Purdue played, they were still in it with 6 or so minutes to go on the visitor's court. Cam and Myles as well as the freshmen are limited in experience for their "new" or "expanded" roles.

I sure hope you’re right, TJ!