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Taylor gets his offer

This is your opinion and yours alone.

We'll know more after early signing day and I assume some offers will be dropped to kids who are committed, yet don't sign in the early signing period. From there, I still expect us to have to make room for 6-7 new additions which will mean current players will have to go. I can pick out 15 kids with schollies on the roster right now with no chance to contribute.

You don't think the player and the coaches already know that and have already had discussions?

There will be transfers for sure.


this is an odd post. you say that's my opinion and mine alone, yet you say the exact same thing. to add a player, somebody has to leave. some will be current players, and some will be recruits.

Your assumption is that we'll find room and players will be willing to leave just so they can play football somewhere else.

I'm going to add a twist to your assumption. I knew a basketball player who knew he wasn't very good, but he didn't transfer. he used his 4 year scholarship to get an engineering degree. he played 2 minutes of the last game of his senior year. the team thought about redshirting him. But he said, I'm getting my degree in 4 years, and thanks for paying for it. his name was Mike Needham - a 6'8 PF who is a proud Purdue alumni..

You assume all of these players who are non -contributors want to transfer to lesser colleges so they can get more playing time? My assumption is a lot of these non-contributors signed with Purdue not to play football, but rather to get a Purdue education and degree. A lot of previous recruits were attracted to Purdue because of its academics. A lot of our players had offers from prestige colleges, not football powerhouses. They are not about to leave and transfer to Northern Illinois or Indiana St just so they can play football.

And I believe that is a false assumption many football fans on this forum have. There are a lot of people who go to a specific college to get a degree first and play football second. . Look at all the transfers from Michigan. A lot of them (not all) got their degree first before transferring. Some football players are Ok with being a non-contributor. Not every member of the Purdue Glee Club is a soloist. There are many athletes who are just happy to be on the team. and the current rules are if the y are making academic progress, they can't be kicked off the team to make room for somebody else.

I have to believe brohm got rid of the players who didn't buy into his program last year. I don't believe you are going to see a lot of transfers this year.

You can make all the promises you want about people transferring . you can make all the statements you want about non -contributors. Allstott is one of those players. We had a discussion about him last month. The likelihood that he will ever throw a pass for Purdue at QB is < 1%. Posters say we'll find a place for him somewhere. Those same posters said it won't be at RB or WR . and he'd be lower on our depth chart at DB than he is a QB. is he a player that would transfer to a lesser college so he can actually get some playing time? or is he a guy who will stay for 4 years and be a non-contributor? if Alstott transfers, it will be his decision.

there were reasons Applebee and Etlin transferred. They didn't transfer for more playing time. they transferred to better schools and a chance to play for a real coach.

I don't believe Brohm is like Fleck. and if a player has a 4 year scholarship to attend Purdue, I don't believe he's as willing to give that up just so he can get more playing time at a lesser school.
 
I’m not completely sold that he’s a 4.4 guy. I saw an article on his team’s receiving corps and they claimed another receiver on that team runs 4.4 and that Taylor runs 4.5 or below I believe.

I don’t buy that that high school has a faster receiving corps than the Green Bay Packers.

Still, I believe he can play, hence the interest from Purdue.


a look at Packers history will reflect their best receivers were a lot slower than the NFL norm. they drafted and played players who had the ability to catch the ball and run after the catch. Neither Jennings or Don Driver were never known for their speed. James Lofton was the exception. Cobb, Nelson and Adams are not exactly fast, but they can get open and catch the ball.

and that was Purdue's biggest WR issue this year - it wasn't speed. it was receivers who could not catch a pass.
 
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a look at Packers history will reflect their best receivers were a lot slower than the NFL norm. they drafted and played players who had the ability to catch the ball and run after the catch. Neither Jennings or Don Driver were never known for their speed. James Lofton was the exception. Cobb, Nelson and Adams are not exactly fast, but they can get open and catch the ball.

and that was Purdue's biggest WR issue this year - it wasn't speed. it was receivers who could not catch a pass.

You make stuff up dont you?

Cobb ran a 4.46 at the combine
Jennings ran a 4.48
 
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The reason there is an 85 scholarship limit is because fielding a D1 f-ball team requires DEPTH. It used to be 100. Not all scholarship football players end up starting. Have you ever taken the time to analyze or review our punt, kickoff, return, x- point teams and note the preponderance of frosh, rs frosh, sophomores? Except for our "hands" team (onside) I can only identify 2-3 starters on each one of the former squads. We can not risk the injuries to our starters. This is not the NFL where you could simply take a practice team member and insert him. In college just completing a late season practice with enough healthy players can be problematic.

Once again, Wolegib, I find your denegration of Griffin Allstott to be overtly critical. I agree, that he will likely eventually move to another position but that does not mean it was a wasted offer. Dan Dierking was never going to be another Scott Dierking but I doubt anyone who played with Danny would say he was not a "contributor". I suspect Jack Anthrop wishes and expects to start all 4 yrs but this seems doubtful based on quality receivers coming in. Despite that, does one truly think he will not bleed gold/black and "contribute" in ways which people on this board do not even realize. Neither of these guys will ever cry or complain and seek a transfer looking for a "better school"? The constant hair pulling that goes on over so called "wasted offers" from people on this board is really counter productive.

I trust coach Brohm and his assistants and am confident in the future.......
 
KT is a 4.4 guy. Kory ran a 4.48 at OSU's camp and a 4.46 (ish) at Duke. Here's the video from Duke and notice that there are about 5-6 coaches recording it- thats because they didn't believe the times they were getting for the first 2 times he ran it (this was 3rd take). The other player on KT's team who I think you're referring to is Daevon Anderson. I honesty don't know his exact 40 time but the dude is fast too. Easily could have been a D1 recruit without the academic issues...
Thanks for the info. Hope he comes here. Would be great under Coach Brohm.
 
You make stuff up dont you?

Cobb ran a 4.46 at the combine
Jennings ran a 4.48


That's not that fast per the NFL WR norm and also compared with what round they were drafted in and compared to the other speeds compiled at the combine. Jennings was not the fastest WR in the round he was drafted in, and the packers passed o n several other more widely acclaimed Wrs when they drafted him. drafted more for his ability to catch than his speed.

I noticed you took the time to post the speed of two receivers, but neglected to post the times of the other receivers I mentioned. Does that mean I was right about Nelson, Adams and Driver?
 
That's not that fast per the NFL WR norm and also compared with what round they were drafted in and compared to the other speeds compiled at the combine. Jennings was not the fastest WR in the round he was drafted in, and the packers passed o n several other more widely acclaimed Wrs when they drafted him. drafted more for his ability to catch than his speed.

I noticed you took the time to post the speed of two receivers, but neglected to post the times of the other receivers I mentioned. Does that mean I was right about Nelson, Adams and Driver?
Nelson was 4.51

Average WR 40 in 2016 was 4.5

Couldnt find driver. Adams was 4.53
 
The reason there is an 85 scholarship limit is because fielding a D1 f-ball team requires DEPTH. It used to be 100. Not all scholarship football players end up starting. Have you ever taken the time to analyze or review our punt, kickoff, return, x- point teams and note the preponderance of frosh, rs frosh, sophomores? Except for our "hands" team (onside) I can only identify 2-3 starters on each one of the former squads. We can not risk the injuries to our starters. This is not the NFL where you could simply take a practice team member and insert him. In college just completing a late season practice with enough healthy players can be problematic.

Once again, Wolegib, I find your denegration of Griffin Allstott to be overtly critical. I agree, that he will likely eventually move to another position but that does not mean it was a wasted offer. Dan Dierking was never going to be another Scott Dierking but I doubt anyone who played with Danny would say he was not a "contributor". I suspect Jack Anthrop wishes and expects to start all 4 yrs but this seems doubtful based on quality receivers coming in. Despite that, does one truly think he will not bleed gold/black and "contribute" in ways which people on this board do not even realize. Neither of these guys will ever cry or complain and seek a transfer looking for a "better school"? The constant hair pulling that goes on over so called "wasted offers" from people on this board is really counter productive.

I trust coach Brohm and his assistants and am confident in the future.......


I believe Alstott is an excellent example to make my point. I'm not being critical of his talent. I'm just using him as an example of an athlete who wanted to come to Purdue, not to be a star, but rather, just wanted to play for Purdue. He may never be a contributor, but he's also never going to transfer to get more playing time elsewhere either. he's not a wasted scholarship. he's just one of 85 members of the Purdue team. No scholarship is wasted if the player uses it to gain a degree.

What I'm saying is because of the success Purdue has had this year, and because of the academic standards Purdue has, the likelihood of a player transferring is going to be a lot smaller than most of you assume it will be. Just because you can find 10-15 non-contributors, does not mean they want to transfer. Purdue is not Alabama. most Purdue football payers come to Purdue to get a degree, not to get playing time.

I truly don't believe this year's attrition rate of current players is going to be higher than 7 at most.

Rather than arguing, how about somebody with the inside sources, post what Purdue's attrition/transfer totals were for the past 5 years? I believe last's total was probably the highest in the past 10 years. And I personally don't believe we'll come close to that number again until brohm is replaced by the next coach. .
 
Nelson was 4.51

Average WR 40 in 2016 was 4.5

Couldnt find driver. Adams was 4.53


how about this link to confirm my thoughts/ post ? according to this link, both Jennings and Cobb's times were slower than the average Hb and Db's times. and that's exactly what I said.

Thanks for agreeing with me. None of the packers' WRs were speed demons or drafted because they were extremely fast. their times were ALL slower than the AVERAGE 40 time for their position ! one would think a first or second round draft pick would be faster than AVERAGE !

Donald Driver's 40 time coming into the NFL was 4.45.

I don't just make stuff up. I am sometimes incorrect.
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_40_yd_dash_time_for_college_football_players
 
Answers.com? They have nothing to back the info.

This is what i used.

https://www.milehighreport.com/2013...ication-is-in-order-average-speed-by-position


Your "official" link provided the same times as mine.

We saw the same numbers and drew different conclusions. my conclusion was that the packers' starting receivers are ALL slower than the average receiver. Both links proved my conclusion. The only real "quality" receiver the packers ever had known for his speed was James Lofton. the packers have drafted a couple of receivers known for their speed that didn't pan out.

The packers also drafted Yancy last year. What was his 40 time?
 
I suspect the number of players who become academic casualties once grades are posted in a couple weeks will be surprise---


I will not be surprised. I will be SHOCKED !!! Why? Because I look at a lot of our players' other offers when they sign with Purdue. A lot of our football players received offers from military academies and Ivy league schools. We've got a lot of really smart players on this team. Purdue also has an excellent academic assistance team for its athletes. That's why I would be SHOCKED if our players flunked out of Purdue. Purdue hasn't had a Heisman winner in a while, but we have had a lot of academic honorees.

Purdue is not LSU or Texas Tech. the vast majority of our athletes are as competitive in the classroom as on the field. And during the Hazell era, even more so.
 
Your "official" link provided the same times as mine.

We saw the same numbers and drew different conclusions. my conclusion was that the packers' starting receivers are ALL slower than the average receiver. Both links proved my conclusion. The only real "quality" receiver the packers ever had known for his speed was James Lofton. the packers have drafted a couple of receivers known for their speed that didn't pan out.

The packers also drafted Yancy last year. What was his 40 time?

If we agree on speed. Cobb, driver and Jennings were faster and Nelson only slight slower.

Yancey ran a 4.48
 
I will not be surprised. I will be SHOCKED !!! Why? Because I look at a lot of our players' other offers when they sign with Purdue. A lot of our football players received offers from military academies and Ivy league schools. We've got a lot of really smart players on this team. Purdue also has an excellent academic assistance team for its athletes. That's why I would be SHOCKED if our players flunked out of Purdue. Purdue hasn't had a Heisman winner in a while, but we have had a lot of academic honorees.

Purdue is not LSU or Texas Tech. the vast majority of our athletes are as competitive in the classroom as on the field. And during the Hazell era, even more so.

“We are going to have a few guys to see how it plays out and I’m not for sure how it’s going to go,” he said. “We’ve tried to work as hard as we can with some of those to make sure they get over the hump. We’ll probably go down to the wire with a few and we won’t know possibly until the last minute whether they’ll be with us.” ---- Coach Brohm

http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...-football-headed-foster-farms-bowl/914908001/
 
Someone is getting one heck of an athlete out of KT. Can't wait for the commitment. Purdue is for sure fired up about him right now.

I am sure the entire Boiler Nation will be fired up about him if he commits to Purdue. He has one heck of a great skill set being so tall and fast. That gets my attention right off the bat. We would definitely welcome a receiver like him here at Purdue.
 
“We are going to have a few guys to see how it plays out and I’m not for sure how it’s going to go,” he said. “We’ve tried to work as hard as we can with some of those to make sure they get over the hump. We’ll probably go down to the wire with a few and we won’t know possibly until the last minute whether they’ll be with us.” ---- Coach Brohm

http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...-football-headed-foster-farms-bowl/914908001/
Holmes never attended classes. He has a. Chicago condo and commuted to practice after 2 a days-- I concede that was a wasted offer

Sources say one o Jc transfers is 50/50
 
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Holmes never attended classes. He has a. Chicago condo and commuted to practice after 2 a days-- I concede that was a wasted offer

Sources say one o Jc transfers is 50/50

Think I know which one
 
If we agree on speed. Cobb, driver and Jennings were faster and Nelson only slight slower.

Yancey ran a 4.48

I believe we can agree on times. Although Cobb's official NFL 40 time for 2016 was 4.55. in all cases, all of the Packers' receivers were AVERAGE or very close to it. even Yancy was average.

in doing some additional research I found an interesting article published by SB nation that compares high school combine times with college combine times. it appears the author is very suspicious of high school 40 times.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...13-nfl-combine-high-school-40-yard-dash-times
 
Think I know which one
my guess would be a receiver whose name I've spelled wrong multiple times.

that info on Holmes saddens me. it's also the type of info that doesn't make the news. Looking at his talent, it wasn't a wasted scholarship, but rather a wasted opportunity on his part. I'm becoming leery of going after anymore Notre Dame rejects. .

if I had inside info, and was a betting person, I'd say we will only have one kicker and one punter on scholarship next year.
 
my guess would be a receiver whose name I've spelled wrong multiple times.

that info on Holmes saddens me. it's also the type of info that doesn't make the news. Looking at his talent, it wasn't a wasted scholarship, but rather a wasted opportunity on his part. I'm becoming leery of going after anymore Notre Dame rejects. .

if I had inside info, and was a betting person, I'd say we will only have one kicker and one punter on scholarship next year.
So who's the WR who could transfer here?
 
So who's the WR who could transfer here?


we were talking about a Juco receiver who would might be 50/50 leaving because of grades..

it's interesting that Brohm talks about players needing to be academically qualified to participate in the bowl game. I know of several colleges who have had disqualified players academically, but allowed them to play in football bowl games and basketball tournaments, with the reasoning that they were not ineligible to play until the second semester. one of those players was a hesiman RB candidate fro m the BIG 12 who had a perfect 0.00 for his fall semester, but over 1500 yards and 20 TDs, and his coach thought it unfair not to allow him to play.

it's nice to see Brohm places academics higher than performance.
 
I’m not completely sold that he’s a 4.4 guy. I saw an article on his team’s receiving corps and they claimed another receiver on that team runs 4.4 and that Taylor runs 4.5 or below I believe.

I don’t buy that that high school has a faster receiving corps than the Green Bay Packers.

Still, I believe he can play, hence the interest from Purdue.
KT is a 4.4 guy. Kory ran a 4.48 at OSU's camp and a 4.46 (ish) at Duke. Here's the video from Duke and notice that there are about 5-6 coaches recording it- thats because they didn't believe the times they were getting for the first 2 times he ran it (this was 3rd take). The other player on KT's team who I think you're referring to is Daevon Anderson. I honesty don't know his exact 40 time but the dude is fast too. Easily could have been a D1 recruit without the academic issues...

Good; I’m glad to read that someone didn’t just make up the kid’s 40 time.

Having said that, I only believe in laser timed 40’s as being accurate since almost every one is timed faster by hand.

Still, he sounds like he has good speed regardless.

Oh I just saw that you are Kory’s brother.

I’d love to see him at Purdue!

He looks legit and will enjoy the academics.
 
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I want somebody who can get open, catch the ball, and elude tacklers. and can catch the ball on a 2 point conversion and catch a Hail Mary pass..

How much faster is 4.45 than 4.5 on a grassy field ?
 
a look at Packers history will reflect their best receivers were a lot slower than the NFL norm. they drafted and played players who had the ability to catch the ball and run after the catch. Neither Jennings or Don Driver were never known for their speed. James Lofton was the exception. Cobb, Nelson and Adams are not exactly fast, but they can get open and catch the ball.

and that was Purdue's biggest WR issue this year - it wasn't speed. it was receivers who could not catch a pass.

I was just using Green Bay as an example really, since someone mentioned Jordy Nelson.

Plus, I’m a Packer fan.

I still don’t think there are high school receiving corps faster than the GB receiving corps, however.

That was my main point.
 
I want somebody who can get open, catch the ball, and elude tacklers. and can catch the ball on a 2 point conversion and catch a Hail Mary pass..

How much faster is 4.45 than 4.5 on a grassy field ?
When you're fast- you're fast. These tenths of a second don't seem to really matter on the field quite as much. If you don't run hard in the game and if you're not fast off the line, it doesn't really matter what your 40 time is...
 
If you have a couple minutes, Kory's film is pretty fun to watch. The term "Catch Radius" really summarizes his abilities well.
Thanks for the posts and bits of info. Coming from a Boiler who was very close to the program while in college (2002-2008) and have had some inside looks in the last few years, your brother would love Purdue for not only it’s football program but for the academics and the community as well. You can see how loved not only great players but all players at Purdue are and there are numerous examples of this all these posters could share.

My personal favorite is John Standeford!
 
When you're fast- you're fast. These tenths of a second don't seem to really matter on the field quite as much. If you don't run hard in the game and if you're not fast off the line, it doesn't really matter what your 40 time is...

I want Kory to come to Purdue. I believe he would add a new dimension to Purdue football. And I'm probably the most critical poster here about recruits. I believe Kory could become like that Notre Dame WR/TE who was successful 1-3 years ago. While not a TE, I believe Kory could be very successful at the slants, and catch and run patterns. I also believe Kory could be great in goal line situations, Hail Mary passes, and 2 point conversions.

in the past four years one of the biggest issues Purdue receivers faced was not their speed, but their inability to get separation from their defender.

one of the biggest issues Purdue receivers faced this year was their inconsistency in catching the ball. Our speed was good, but our inability to catch the ball at critical junctures probably cost us at least 2 wins against Nebraska and Rutgers, and our comeback attempt against Louisville. our success down the stretch came from receivers catching the ball rather than using faster receivers.

I'm also a 50 year Green Bay Packers fan. A speedy receiver is not a requirement for success. it's nice to have. But being able to make the catch at a critical moment is a lot more important.
 
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4.4 speed=Kory Taylor, 4.5= speed Jordy Nelson and Adam Theilen-2 elite NFL receivers. If the kid can catch a football, I say leave him at WR.
Totally agree. Watch Thielen highlights. He’s fast but not crazy fast. He kills with outstanding route discipline. No wasted movement makes him so fast in and out of breaks that he just turns DB’s inside out. That he has had only one or two drops all year helps too!
A big receiver against college db’s, who rarely locate the ball l, will dominate.
Tight ends need to block big boys so they need a bigger frame.
 
If you have a couple minutes, Kory's film is pretty fun to watch. The term "Catch Radius" really summarizes his abilities well.

I'm sold. I loved seeing him go up for the ball over the CB's. Nice hands. He looked good in the screen plays and sweeps. You can tell there is a lot of well deserved trust in Kory in some of those throws. The QB looks decent as well. Is it Josh Stewart?
 
Love the way he actually catches the ball with his hands unlike some of our current guys. I only compared him earlier to Nelson and Theilen due to obvious similarities (tall/white/fast)... but he's 3" taller than those guys and faster too.

Having KTaylor will give our team a dimension not seen before, at least not that I can recall. Kyle Ingraham was 6'9" but could not block like KT can and had questionable skills and J Standeford though reliable and skilled was mostly a possession receiver type guy with 4.75 speed.
I think standeford was a little quicker than that.
 
Soph/Junior Year QB: Will Phillis (Freshman QB @ Kent State)
Senior Year QB: Josh Stewart (Holds offer from Malone University)
 
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